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==what about kirby== | ==what about kirby== | ||
I know he is pretty high in brawl, but I think he should be higher. I'm an amateur player so can someone please tell my why he's so bad? I know he's light, but a strategy I use is to float above opponents and then use stone. It does very high knockback and damage. Also, his hammer in the air seems pretty fast and powerful. Can someone please help me out here? | I know he is pretty high in brawl, but I think he should be higher. I'm an amateur player so can someone please tell my why he's so bad? I know he's light, but a strategy I use is to float above opponents and then use stone. It does very high knockback and damage. Also, his hammer in the air seems pretty fast and powerful. Can someone please help me out here? | ||
:I wouldn't call a character in the A tier "bad." The stuff you suggested isn't really high-level play material (repeating that same stone move over and over gets predictable), but Kirby certainly has his fair share of decent techniques. Watch a good video of him on Youtube to see what he can really do. The best thing you can do to up a character's tier position is enter and do well in tournaments. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 03:06, October 21, 2009 (UTC) | :I wouldn't call a character in the A tier "bad." The stuff you suggested isn't really high-level play material (repeating that same stone move over and over gets predictable), but Kirby certainly has his fair share of decent techniques. Watch a good video of him on Youtube to see what he can really do. The best thing you can do to up a character's tier position is enter and do well in tournaments. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 03:06, October 21, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::The float over strategy you talk about just doesn't work that often. Sure a stone can hit when set up well, but if all you do is that you'll be an easy target to an aerial game. Kirby has good aerials, but his relatively slow air speed means that continued play in the air is not the best way to go about it. As for the hammer, once it is out it is fast, but it has noticeable start-up and ending lag. It has it's place, but it also requires considerable set up and can really only be considered a tertiary move, secondary at best. As for his tier placement, he has good match-ups, but his light weight off sets his good recovery enough that he lacks the high end survival potential of many of the higher characters. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 03:46, October 22, 2009 (UTC) | ::The float over strategy you talk about just doesn't work that often. Sure a stone can hit when set up well, but if all you do is that you'll be an easy target to an aerial game. Kirby has good aerials, but his relatively slow air speed means that continued play in the air is not the best way to go about it. As for the hammer, once it is out it is fast, but it has noticeable start-up and ending lag. It has it's place, but it also requires considerable set up and can really only be considered a tertiary move, secondary at best. As for his tier placement, he has good match-ups, but his light weight off sets his good recovery enough that he lacks the high end survival potential of many of the higher characters. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 03:46, October 22, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Thanks guys, that makes sense. Its just that I expected him to be higher although he is already pretty high. | Thanks guys, that makes sense. Its just that I expected him to be higher although he is already pretty high. | ||
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He has worse matchups than even Jiggly. Why is he not in bottom tier? [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 23:33, December 6, 2009 (UTC) | He has worse matchups than even Jiggly. Why is he not in bottom tier? [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 23:33, December 6, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Well, (Prepare to see 10 people respond to this, btw...), Bowser has placed better in tournaments and is an overall better character based on his metagame when compared to Jiggzzz. Matchups do not affect the tier list that much to be honest... (Link has a 50-50 against Snake, I think, and he's bottom tier.) <span style="font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="DARKBLUE">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="DARKBLUE">Reaper</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<span style='color="CYAN"'>48</span>]]</span> 00:02, December 7, 2009 (UTC) | |||