Talk:Tier list/Archive 4: Difference between revisions
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::Well, if a new person here were to see the article, they would of also read the top of the page- explaining how it works, and the treatise, too. Tournys are a major fact, yes, but your "Meta Knight will be the end of mankind" situation is exaggerated... and while I myself LOVE to exaggerate things beyond their meaning, your situation is definitly wrong- people will continue to use other characters. There are many anti-tier people who are pros with Link, Falcon, and others, fighting to get them to the top. The tier list has actually cause other people to choose characters OTHER than top tiers, don't you worry. Of course, though, who you choose to be your main shouldn't be based on who other people are good with, if that's also what you were saying. <span style="font-family:Forte;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Reaper48</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<font color="purepurple"> >:D!!!</font>]]</span> 19:55, November 20, 2009 (UTC) | ::Well, if a new person here were to see the article, they would of also read the top of the page- explaining how it works, and the treatise, too. Tournys are a major fact, yes, but your "Meta Knight will be the end of mankind" situation is exaggerated... and while I myself LOVE to exaggerate things beyond their meaning, your situation is definitly wrong- people will continue to use other characters. There are many anti-tier people who are pros with Link, Falcon, and others, fighting to get them to the top. The tier list has actually cause other people to choose characters OTHER than top tiers, don't you worry. Of course, though, who you choose to be your main shouldn't be based on who other people are good with, if that's also what you were saying. <span style="font-family:Forte;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Reaper48</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<font color="purepurple"> >:D!!!</font>]]</span> 19:55, November 20, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::Actually I think it's very applicable to new players. | :::Actually Toomai, I think it's very applicable to new players. | ||
:::If a new player were to look at the tier list and the character matchup grid, they would see that characters such as Meta Knight have a clear advantage to many, if not all of the other characters in the game. | :::If a new player were to look at the tier list and the character matchup grid, they would see that characters such as Meta Knight have a clear advantage to many, if not all of the other characters in the game. | ||
:::For instance: Ganandorf has an average matchup of 25%; MK's average is 60%. <u>Clearly</u> MK is a 'better' character than Ganandorf. | :::For instance: Ganandorf has an average matchup of 25%; MK's average is 60%. <u>Clearly</u> MK is a 'better' character than Ganandorf. | ||
:::Why then, should a new player pick Ganandorf as their main? | :::Why then, should a new player pick Ganandorf as their main? | ||
:::Suppose a new player were to chose Ganandorf (lets call him Player 1), and another player picks MK (lets call him Player 2), and they were to practice with these characters for a week against CPU Mario. Assuming both players became roughly 'just as good' as each other, if you were to put Player 1 against Player 2 (according to the tier list), Player 1 should get his butt handed to him on Galaxia. So then the Ganandorf player, realizing the horrible error he made in choosing to play as Ganandorf, switches to MK, leading to more MK players who thrash every other character in the game. You cannot say that this argument is not accurate for casual gameplay. The game is a contest. Everyone wants to win, even if that means playing with a character other than their favorate. | :::Suppose a new player were to chose Ganandorf (lets call him Player 1), and another player picks MK (lets call him Player 2), and they were to practice with these characters for a week against CPU Mario. Assuming both players became roughly 'just as good' as each other, if you were to put Player 1 against Player 2 (according to the tier list), Player 1 should get his butt handed to him on Galaxia. So then the Ganandorf player, realizing the horrible error he made in choosing to play as Ganandorf, switches to MK, leading to more MK players who thrash every other character in the game. You cannot say that this argument is not accurate for casual gameplay. The game is a contest. Everyone wants to win, even if that means playing with a character other than their favorate. | ||
:::I think that's it for Toomai. I wish (sincerely) to be proven wrong, but I don't see it. | :::I think that's it for Toomai. I wish (sincerely) to be proven wrong, but I don't see it. | ||
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:::I actually sorta agree with you. Although for every person who chooses Link because he's low on the list, how many people choose MK because he's #1? | :::I actually sorta agree with you. Although for every person who chooses Link because he's low on the list, how many people choose MK because he's #1? | ||
:::Theoretically, fewer people play as Link because the tier list says he stinks. If the tier list and character matchup grid were to be removed, there would be nothing saying that Link sucks, so therefore, more players would play as him and, as a result, Link's fighting style will evolve to a point when a matchup against MK could be considered almost even. Unless of course MK would still be far superior than every character in the game. Then he would probably need to be banned. | :::Theoretically, fewer people play as Link because the tier list says he stinks. If the tier list and character matchup grid were to be removed, there would be nothing saying that Link sucks, so therefore, more players would play as him and, as a result, Link's fighting style will evolve to a point when a matchup against MK could be considered almost even. Unless of course MK would still be far superior than every character in the game. Then he would probably need to be banned. | ||
:::Wow that was long. [[Special:Contributions/67.142.130.19|67.142.130.19]] 01:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)Lord Dragon | :::Wow that was long. [[Special:Contributions/67.142.130.19|67.142.130.19]] 01:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)Lord Dragon | ||