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 :'''Agree''' This is actually an ongoing discussion on the Namco page as well, though there is no consensus there. However, this page is getting too long. If more 3rd Parties are added, or, heck, more 1st parties, this page will get unbelievably long and unwieldy. I vote we create a new third party page and merge the Namco page into it, or rename the Namco page to a general third party page and move all other third party companies to it. That seems to be the right move at this point, lest this page get out of control. By the way, how many people need to vote on this for there to be a consensus?[[User:Super Smash Lover|Super Smash Lover]] ([[User talk:Super Smash Lover|talk]]) 23:20, April 22, 2020 (EDT)
 :'''Agree''' Pac-Man’s inclusion led to plenty of Namco universes to be in the ''Smash'' franchise. Same with Terry leading to some SNK universes. Perhaps this page should be split into three lists. One listing first-parties. Another listing second-parties (if there are second party universes). And the third one listing third parties. [[User:Son Daniel|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:red;">SonDaniel</span>]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Son Daniel|talk page]]) 17:13, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
+:'''A little neutral''' As long as Namco and SNK get their own sections and aren't lumped together with the others, then I wouldn't be against the idea.
+:My real concern with this move is how we should handle some of the more "debatable" ones (such as ''Glory of Heracles'', ''The Tower'', ''Culdcept'', and ''Baten Kaitos'' <s>I also wanna say ''Chalien'' since the first game was published by Creatures, but it seems that IP is under Ninty's control now. I know Torchickens has strong enough knowledge on the series, so maybe they can provide the answer.</s>). While these IPs are technically owned by third-parties (Paon, Vivarium, OmiyaSoft, and Bandai Namco respectively <s>ps i still don't understand how not being made in-house by namco warrants exclusion from the namco universes list</s>), their content in ''Smash'' is heavily based on the installments that Nintendo published (''Glory of Heracles'' for the DS, ''The Tower SP'', ''Culdcept'' for 3DS and ''Culdcept Revolt'', and ''Baten Kaitos Origins'').
+:This isn't a case like with ''Rayman Legends'' where, although treated like a first-party property in ''Ultimate''{{'}}s Spirit menu, it's well known that they only had the publishing rights for the Wii U version in Japan and that's it; For these, there's info that Nintendo might own certain aspects of these installments of IPs that they otherwise don't own.
+:Though admittedly, my preferred choice is to group each universe by the game they debuted in (''Melee'' would have stuff like ''Doshin the Giant'', ''Cubivore'', and ''Mach Rider''; ''Brawl'' would have ''Hotel Dusk'', ''Stunt Race FX'', ''Tetris''; etc.). Given how this would require prior knowledge (and the rather "hard to find" kind, for that matter) for the common reader, I can definitely understand why this route wouldn't work. [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 23:51, April 29, 2020 (EDT)