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:I'm guessing because misprint or not, 108 is the correct amount of stages, the 103 we have now and the 5 we will get for DLC. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 17:57, 23 February 2019 (EST) | :I'm guessing because misprint or not, 108 is the correct amount of stages, the 103 we have now and the 5 we will get for DLC. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 17:57, 23 February 2019 (EST) | ||
This added to the article. It make sense to delete this now. [[User:RobbyB3ll4s|RobbyB3ll4s]] ([[User talk:RobbyB3ll4s|talk]]) 20:29, February 10, 2020 (EST) | This added to the article. It make sense to delete this now. [[User:RobbyB3ll4s|RobbyB3ll4s]] ([[User talk:RobbyB3ll4s|talk]]) 20:29, February 10, 2020 (EST) | ||
I'm going back on this. I still have my doubts as to whether or not this belongs in leaks at all. Their next issue dropped the stages from 108 to 103, and DLC wasn't publicly announced until the November 2018 Direct. I'm highly doubtful that CoroCoro was given information about the announcement of the DLC stages from Nintendo or some other source given that their September issue with their "108" stages were mostly retreading the content announced from the August 2018 Direct. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 08:13, March 5, 2022 (EST) | |||
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:While it's certainly likely to be a coincidence, it's not "obviously" one. Like it or not, real leaks do happen, and while it's certainly less credible than other similar 4chan "leaks" due to having less information, I think that the stir it caused within the community makes up for its sketchy origins in terms of notability as a rumour... but most certainly not as a "leak." So I moved it to [[List of rumors]] instead. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 14:50, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | :While it's certainly likely to be a coincidence, it's not "obviously" one. Like it or not, real leaks do happen, and while it's certainly less credible than other similar 4chan "leaks" due to having less information, I think that the stir it caused within the community makes up for its sketchy origins in terms of notability as a rumour... but most certainly not as a "leak." So I moved it to [[List of rumors]] instead. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 14:50, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::Coincidence or not, it was 100% correct, and thus fits more under this page. I'm not saying it can't be a coincidence, but to say it's "obviously" one sounds more like denial than anything else. I also want to add that it specifically mentioned using music in the presentation instead of the game, and Simple and Clean is only in the presentation, not the game. [[Special:Contributions/68.4.176.97|68.4.176.97]] 15:13, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | ::Coincidence or not, it was 100% correct, and thus fits more under this page. I'm not saying it can't be a coincidence, but to say it's "obviously" one sounds more like denial than anything else. I also want to add that it specifically mentioned using music in the presentation instead of the game, and Simple and Clean is only in the presentation, not the game. [[Special:Contributions/68.4.176.97|68.4.176.97]] 15:13, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:::Mate, this page is only for 100% confirmed true leaks. You can't say "coincidence or not" when coincidences are not permitted on this page. Being a ''possible'' leak that ''could'' just be an interesting coincidence '''does not''' qualify a post for this page, any admin will tell you that. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 15:53, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::The fact that the leaker specified their job lets us know that this is the only thing they could leak, and supports the credibility by giving an actual source. They can't leak any more characters because Sora was the last one. They couldn't leak the mii costumes because none of them were disney. They couldn't leak Sora's moveset because they're not a game developer. A lack of info is a terrible reason to call this a coincidence when we go by the circumstance. [[Special:Contributions/68.4.176.97|68.4.176.97]] 16:23, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::"A lack of info is a terrible reason?" Are you kidding? There's too much of a reason to NOT believe it was real. I'm not convinced either way, but you're being a bit too optimistic here. Of course the story is believable, but for all we know it's just as likely a skilled, logical, think-it-through liar came up with this crap; and in case you didn't know about how this stuff works, hundreds of these text-based "leaks" appear on message boards every week, so as RSM stated a lucky guess is possible enough such that we can't dismiss the case one way or another. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 17:23, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::::If you and RSM are really that insistent that there is a possibility of this being a coincidence, the best compromise would be to keep the Sora leak/rumor on both pages in the same way Vergeben and Gemastu are. Putting it solely on the rumors page when the info is 100% correct just sounds asinine. Even then, I think putting it on the rumors page at all isn't a great idea when "widely considered to be a coincidence" is a total lie. I only see you and RSM calling it one; everywhere else I've seen post-reveal realizes that there is a much higher chance of it being legitimate. Pre-reveal, sure, it could be brushed off as a coincidence, but post-reveal, there's not enough evidence to suggest it's a coincidence. Most of the leaks on this page that aren't done by Nintendo are text-only (only exceptions I can think of are the ESRB leak and the 7-11 leaks), with the only difference between those and this being that they'd leak more characters, something that isn't possible with Sora being the last one. This is what I mean by a lack of info is a terrible reason to call it a coincidence; there's not much to go over to begin with. The universally accepted leaks that leaked actual movesets to my knowledge were the Piranha Plant leaks. While Sora's moveset wasn't leaked, I want to stress again that specifying that the music (Simple and Clean) was for the presentation instead of the game adds some credibility to the statement. [[Special:Contributions/68.4.176.97|68.4.176.97]] 18:44, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
In light of a chat with Omega Tyrant on the Discord server and [[Special:Diff/1623620|the description of this edit of his]], I hereby withdraw my case. Still split on the leak being real, but I do admit there were aspects of it that I wasn't considering in the middle of this debate. Although FYI, it should be noted that I and RSM are far from the only people who would prefer to treat the posts as indeterminate; you'll discover that on the [[SW:DISCORD|Discord server]]. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 15:07, October 20, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Chris Niosi Leak? == | |||
Chris Niosi was the initial voice of Male Byleth but was recast and patched out of both Fire Emblem Three Houses and Fire Emblem Heroes shortly after release as a result of violating his NDA (along with other allegations raised against him at the time). The comment that got Niosi fired was something along the lines of "I'm voicing a character who will end up in Smash Bros the game is coming out soon" Should this be taken as a legitimate leak or was this just wishful thinking on Niosi's part that ended up being true? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cBVHRhF3uLcNVZJ6B2s-kkrtrCRgLN9TJ5zs7nP4stk/edit [[User:Skibot99|Skibot99]] ([[User talk:Skibot99|talk]]) 15:36, January 18, 2023 (EST) | |||
:I'd say it was wishful thinking. I don't know if a voice actor would know their character's getting in Smash that far in advance and looking at the tone of the Google Doc he was just being cocky. [[User:123VideoGamerNinja|123VideoGamerNinja]] ([[User talk:123VideoGamerNinja|talk]]) 14:24, January 19, 2023 (EST) | |||
== Regarding "Jane" == | |||
Regarding the section about the "Jane" text leak. There have been several additions, recently and in the past, of speculation that it's connected to Ann Takamaki. I wanted to point out that any such connection is purely speculative and not supported by evidence in the data. The internal naming conventions in ''Ultimate'' refer to all of the Phantom Thieves by their codenames ("panther" in this case) and make no mention of "Ann" with any spelling, nor does the game use single-letter prefixes like "J" to group data. There is nothing connecting "Jane" to anything in the final game with any reasonable certainty. | |||
I do accept the possibility that it's connected to Ann; however, it is pure conjecture, and no more definitive than any other theory. On that basis, I am happy to leave in the article a mention of the theory, but without the definitive wording currently present. [[User:Dr. HyperCake|Dr. HyperCake]] ([[User talk:Dr. HyperCake|talk]]) 20:28, January 25, 2024 (EST) | |||