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:::The point is it shouldn't be added. It'd be like saying "Yoshi is green" when you can clearly see that from the images on the page. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 07:45, 26 January 2012 (EST) | :::The point is it shouldn't be added. It'd be like saying "Yoshi is green" when you can clearly see that from the images on the page. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 07:45, 26 January 2012 (EST) | ||
::::Well, since you put it that way. [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">'''Mario'''</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="blue">'''is'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="yellow">'''awesome'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="black">'''118'''</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 17:57, 26 January 2012 (EST) | ::::Well, since you put it that way. [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">'''Mario'''</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="blue">'''is'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="yellow">'''awesome'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="black">'''118'''</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 17:57, 26 January 2012 (EST) | ||
:::::Oh, and Pain I have 3 things to tell you: | |||
#. I know how to spell. | |||
#. I know about grammar. | |||
#. I care for policies and even [[SW:1RV]]. | |||
So stop treating me like I'm a baby. I think you should (re)read [[SW:AGF]]. [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">'''Mario'''</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="blue">'''is'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="yellow">'''awesome'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="black">'''118'''</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 17:55, 1 February 2012 (EST) | |||
::::::DP was speaking about your edit war on the page itself, meaning you did not care for policies when you could have taken it to the talk page. You did not use proper grammar when you typed out, "why did revert", which makes no grammatical sense. "RD, you are agreeing with BC, please don't undo the edit, it is relavent." is a run-on sentence, starting with everything after BC. And you spelled relevant wrong. DP is pointing out things that make it difficult to understand what you are saying, would like you to read policies that you broke, and is suggesting that you fix the bad habits. He is not trying to treat you like a baby or assume bad faith. He is trying to help you. [[Special:Contributions/108.194.146.241|108.194.146.241]] 18:09, 1 February 2012 (EST) | |||
:::::::OK, the errors I made were accidents. They should not be major so DP and you should think relevant was a big mistake. [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">'''Mario'''</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="blue">'''is'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="yellow">'''awesome'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="black">'''118'''</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 18:27, 1 February 2012 (EST) | |||
::::::::The only reason I pointed it out is because you do it frequently. Just be a little more careful about your grammar and spelling in the future. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 18:29, 1 February 2012 (EST) | |||
:::::::::OK fine, I made accidents but I'm neat while making edits. [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">'''Mario'''</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="blue">'''is'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="yellow">'''awesome'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="black">'''118'''</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 18:32, 1 February 2012 (EST) | |||
::::::::::I'd like to point out that your recent edit that you reverted yourself on the page itself is not neat. Human beings are not perfect, but it definitely helps if you strive to notice your errors and fix them. [[Special:Contributions/108.194.146.241|108.194.146.241]] 20:44, 1 February 2012 (EST) | |||
:::::::::::OK, I'll never revert more than once. [[Special:Contributions/68.50.201.222|68.50.201.222]] 21:34, 1 February 2012 (EST) | |||
::::::::::::And who's IP are you? [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">Mario</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="green">is</font>]]<span style="font-family":KristenITC font size:10pt>[[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="indigo>awesome</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="iceblue">118</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 17:57, 17 February 2012 (EST) | |||
::::::::::::But that mistake should not be major. [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">Mario</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="green">is</font>]]<span style="font-family":KristenITC font size:10pt>[[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="indigo">awesome</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="iceblue">118</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 18:30, 1 March 2012 (EST) | |||
:::::::::::::So is everyone done with this section, because this discussion is over 2 months old by now. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pikachu]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 18:52, 1 March 2012 (EST) | |||
::::::::::::::OK, this discussion is over so no one, and yes that includes you ....., are allowed post here and my word final. [[Special:Contributions/68.50.201.222|68.50.201.222]] 11:56, 3 March 2012 (EST) | |||
:::::::::::::::Ok then, this also includes you too and that post was redundant because I already explained that this discussion is done with however. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Dark Templar]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 12:34, 3 March 2012 (EST) | |||
::::::::::::::::OK, I'm sorry I started it again. [[Special:Contributions/68.50.201.222|68.50.201.222]] 11:22, 4 March 2012 (EST) | |||
:::::::::::::::::OKAY, THAT'S IT. NO MORE COMMENTS BELOW THIS ONE (UNLESS IT'S A NEW SECTION). '''<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE"><font size=4>[[User:Accoolx|<span style="color:darkgreen">Accool</span>]][[User talk:Accoolx|<span style="color:maroon">X</span>]]</font></span>''' [[File:AC.png|19px]] 13:54, 4 March 2012 (EST) | |||
== Merge == | |||
I '''oppose''' the merge, as it's important to the history of Super Smash Bros.. {{s|user|Red}} ([[User talk:Red|talk]]) [[File:RedSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/Red|Red]] 14:04, 20 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
'''Oppose'''. Article has too much information to allow for a simple merge into ''Super Smash Bros.'s'' already inflated trivia section. | |||
--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>, 14:20, 20 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
'''Strong oppose'''. This is basically what created the smash series...<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">da</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">beast</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]] 14:32, 20 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
'''Oppose''' Being the game where it all started, it should never merge at all and it is notable enough to have it's own article. It's not that poorly written anyways. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Operator 15:42, 20 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
'''Oppose''' This is enough to have its own article, and either way, you could never fit this into a single trivia point. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 15:45, 20 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Merge into Super Smash Bros. "Development" section == | |||
I think that this article covers much of the development of the original Smash, and as the Super Smash Bros. page lacks a Development section, I can definitely see a merge of the information here sufficing. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 14:37, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:'''Oppose''', there's enough here to warrant a page. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:41, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::'''Support'''. I've never been sure why this gets its own page. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 16:42, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:'''Full oppose.''' No reason to merge this whatsoever. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:29, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:Come on guys, I need more than "there's enough" (is there, and if so why?) and "no reason." This is an interesting, highly important, and pertinent part of the development of the original Smash Bros., and as such I think it warrants merging onto the same page of said game. It's how Smash Bros. started out before it turned into something far greater. Why should it not be on the Smash Bros. page? If it's on the same page, people may stumble upon and learn about its origins. It's lacking a Development section anyways, despite Brawl and SSB4 having one. I was thinking a merge of all the info, and then trim some of the structural fat, and then keep the images in a gallery at the bottom of the Development section. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 18:52, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::Because the development section for that page should be talking about other parts we've heard from Sakurai interviews like the character rights process and Iwata's support from the project. This part of the development has enough images and content to stand as its own page, with a link from said section. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:57, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::Of course, but Dragon King wouldn't comprise the entirety of it. We could start with Dragon King, and then talk about characters and Iwata and such afterwards. This page is short enough and I'm confident I can condense it to the point of it fitting with no problems or loss of info. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 18:59, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::I think this is a case of, "We already have the info here, why not transfer it." I mean, the stuff talking about a 4P fighting experience, wanting to use a joystick, etc. is all part of the development of the game, right? If I'm not mistaken, this isn't even covered in other pages besides the unused content. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 19:02, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::Dragon King, Sakurai, Iwata, Miyamoto, and the implementation of characters are all part of the history. We can put that all in Development section, with the Dragon King information transferred from here to there. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 19:07, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::I'll put my money where my mouth is. How's this: I'll write up a draft of the Development section within the next few days with all the info we got on this. I'm pretty sure I can make this work. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 19:13, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
'''Oppose''', I think that it's a major enough part of Smash's development cycle to warrant its own page. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 19:14, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
It's major, but that doesn't mean it warrants a page. It was the developing prototype before all the characters and negotiations and such, a stepping stone in the process. There isn't even a whole lot of info about it besides some screens, it being similar to Smash because it was Smash before Smash was Smash, and why/how it turned into Smash Bros. as we know it. Which is all part of the Development. Gotta tell me why it warrants its own page besides "it's major enough." If it was so major enough to warrant a page, why is it that only four articles make only a small mention of it (one of them being trivia)? It's a major part of the development, but not major to warrant its own page. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 19:21, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:Personally, I think by merging this, we are disrespecting our series' roots. Dragon King is a notable enough part of the development of SSB, and it's what gave us the formula we have today. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:33, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:I think that is a fair point. If there's no further input, I suppose I'll get going on writing the Development section...soon. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 21:25, 31 December 2015 (EST) | |||
== Move to Ryūō: Fighting Game == | |||
I was reading up on Source Gaming's unused content article, and it says the original concept for Smash got its name from an actual town in Japan: Ryūō. Given it's an actual place, and the game featured pictures from that town (and the article saying Dragon King is a possible translation, not that it actually should translate to it), wouldn't it make more sense to name this article Ryūō: Fighting Game? [[User:Xm0c|Xm0c]] ([[User talk:Xm0c|talk]]) 13:16, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:I think that's a much better title. I'm for it. [[File:SSBM_Icon.png|18px]] <span style="font-family: A-OTF Folk Pro; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold"> [[User:Davidvkimball|<font color="#410041">davidvkimball</font>]]</span> 19:57, July 28, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Footage and information has been released == | |||
On his Youtube channel, Masahiro Sakurai has released a video (uploaded [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3IOWaVDbx0 here]) detailing the early concepts and lead up to creating Super Smash Bros, including information and never before seen footage this prototype prototype. Of note, this isn't an "unfinished low-budget fighting game intended for release" as claimed by the article, but was instead a prototype for a proposal that would later become Super Smash Brothers. Much of the article will also have to be rewritten, as it is almost entire speculation and guesswork due to its former status as effectively lost media. [[Special:Contributions/129.222.78.133|129.222.78.133]] 05:09, October 20, 2022 (EDT) | |||