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[[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 22:33, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | [[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 22:33, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
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Nevermind, misread the edit history. | |||
Ritzxy, please stop mass deleting the information on the page. Thank you. | |||
Best, | Best, | ||
[[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 20: | [[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 20:47, 24 December 2014 (EST) | ||
:For starters, you misspelled my name (there's no "i" in it). | |||
:Second, the information that is being reverted is unencyclopedic and just plain not notable and unnecessary. Just because an admin approved this page's notability is no reason to re-add it. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:red;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:green;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 20:51, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
::Information such as "He is the fifth best Toon Link in the United States" is very important in an article; your ranking with a character is a big factor in showcasing your skill level, and that is important information to have in a smasher article. Also, defeating Mew2King is considered a very great achievement in the Smash Bros. scene, and that is important to have in the article to display someone's achievements. You may think the information is not true, but if that's the case, look it up first and then remove it, don't get rid of it claiming that it's unencyclopedic. | |||
::Also, if you don't like people misspelling your name, ignore it or change it to a more readable name that's easier to spell or pronounce. It's much easier to change your own actions than get other people to change theirs. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 21:03, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
:::Meh. Minor issue about my name, but whatever. I'll try to ignore it. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:red;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:green;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 21:06, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
It's hard to spell a name that doesn't have vowels for me. My brain automatically puts the vowels in. Sorry. | |||
He approved the notability when the information was there, I made the changes in the first few edits that got it it's approval. Then I made the other necessary edits like removing his nickname. Please take it up with Miles if you want information deleted. Thank you. | |||
Best, | |||
[[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 20:56, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
:Actually, this new version is actually better than the old version. Sorry for the reverts, I guess the old version just made me think this was unnecessary. That one link to his guitar solo has to go, though. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:red;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:green;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 21:04, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
I've attempted a compromise that retains a more encyclopedic tone but removes what I deemed unnecessary. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:06, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
:Fair enough. Thank you for leaving reasons. When I am allowed to edit it again, I will update his Smash 3DS and WiiU results. Thank you. | |||
:Best, | |||
:[[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 21:08, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
Two parts still need to be removed: | |||
''Southpaw is best known for defeating both Mew2King and Chris G in Brawl tournaments. Southpaw's teammate is HelpR, including teaming with Southpaw in the aforementioned games against Mew2King.'' | |||
Google results for strings such as "southpaw mew2king", "southpaw helpr smash bros", and "southpaw chrisg" turn up no valid results, and many of these searches actually cause this article to appear first; in the case of "southpaw mew2king", this is especially damning, as according to Ac2k above, "defeating Mew2King is considered a very great achievement in the Smash Bros. scene." I would imagine someone would've posted a thread on Smashboards or a blog on AiB if this were the case. | |||
''He is also known for discovering a Yoshi Training Mode combo counter exploit. A video of this exploit can be found on his YouTube page here.'' | |||
I doubt he is known for discovering it. There's a lot of videos on this. :/ | |||
--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>, 21:19, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
:He definitely did discover it. Find me an earlier date than that video please, or even an earlier thread dated before then. I was with him when it was discovered and posted on Smashboards. I posted it on reddit. | |||
:Also, he definitely beat M2K at Bum's tournament. I was there, so was a good handful of people including M2K. I can even go find the date MikeHaze announced it on facebook. M2K's teammate was Izumi, who is an average toon link and metaknight main. | |||
:Best, [[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 21:25, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
As for ChrisG, he went to a tourney that was held at 1pm Friday when most people were at work and school. He won a $25 Best Buy gift card for winning the free tourney that took him months to receive. After back and forth messages, he had to go see the host in person to receive his gift card. [[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 21:33, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
Found the two Facebook post. One by Vinnie and the other by MikeHaze. Vinnie was there to see it too. Here are the two post: | |||
http://puu.sh/blFT0/dff3d8fe82.jpg | |||
http://puu.sh/blFXY/07b41ce485.jpg | |||
I'm sure if you were to ask them about these images, both players would say they did indeed post this. I'm sorry Bum rarely posted results to his tourneys, he really only cares about the venue fee. | |||
Best, | |||
[[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 21:38, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
:The Chris G. bit is a cute story, but not notable, since you and the blog in question state that it was a low-key affair that means little. I won two tournaments in my high school a few years ago, does that make me a notable smasher? | |||
:I still have my reservations about the entire M2K shindig, and I frankly don't have the patience to do the research for it tonight. I guess it is notable enough for inclusion, but only if the images in question are sourced. | |||
:[http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2ihq73/problems_with_training_mode_combos_give_yoshi_a/ This reddit post] predates Southpaw's video by almost two weeks. So no, he did not strictly discover it. And an entire 3,000 hits does not make you "known" in YouTube terms. | |||
:And for God's sake, do everything in one post. It gets frustrating to say something, then get repeatedly edit conflict'd. | |||
:--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>, 22:06, 24 December 2014 (EST) | |||
::I could source the images, but what's the point of linking a FB post you can't see? You would have to add them as friends, then they would have to accept you. If you want to take the time, I would suggest messaging them about the pictures directly. Also cool, we have never seen the reddit post. Guess he was the first to discover it on Smashboards? Shout-out to reddit. Chris G. is a notable player in the fighting game community and I consider Smash a fighting game. It was a low key event, but he still beat Chris G, and that's something important he is known for in the community. | |||
::[[User:Blunk|Blunk]] ([[User talk:Blunk|talk]]) 17:33, 25 December 2014 (EST) | |||