Peach (SSB4): Difference between revisions

Samantha Kelly reprises her role as Peach in ''Smash 4'', albeit via voice clips from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''. <ref name="jtails">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyXOsw5YzU</ref><ref name="zero">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqDd9YbqgVk</ref>

Peach is ranked at 20th place out of 55 characters on the [[tier list]], placing her at the bottom of the B tier. This is a moderate improvement from her prior rank of 19th out of 38 in ''Brawl'', where she is ranked as the lowest character in upper mid-tier. Peach's ability to [[float]] gives her a uniquely strong air game and allows her to pressure opponents safely; this along with her [[Vegetable]] projectiles makes for a good [[neutral game]] in most matchups. Peach has great combos and can perform complicated combos with high damage output. She also has surprisingly good KOing ability due mainly to the high knockback of her forward aerial.  

However, Peach suffers from light weight, slow ground movement and difficulty landing safely, which can lead to her being overwhelmed by aggressive opponents.  

The general mechanic changes of ''SSB4'' both helped and hindered Peach. On the negative side, the removal of edgehogging makes it much more difficult for Peach to edgeguard while benefiting her recovery less than most other characters. Peach is also too slow to benefit from the new untechable [[reel]]ing animation while still lacking reliable tools to [[lock]] opponents. The removal of chain grabbing does not highly benefit Peach as she was not only already immune to most chain grabs due to her floaty status but it also removes her ability to chain grab with down throw. Lastly, the most significant change which hindered her was the removal of [[glide toss]]ing as she was one of the most prominent users of the technique in ''Brawl'' and it overall further worsens her projectile game. Due to her status as a lightweight, Peach's lackluster endurance prevents her from making effective use of the rage mechanic herself. On the other hand, her opponents can use the [[rage]] mechanic to K.O. Peach relatively early.  

On the positive side however, she heavily benefits from rage if she can survive long enough make use of it due to her kill moves being even stronger and her [[Peach Parasol]] being able to kill opponents at insanely early percents. The changes to hitstun and the weakening of [[DI]] also heavily benefits her combo game as many more of her moves can link into each other while she remains fairly difficult for most characters to combo. The weakening of SDI also benefits moves such as her down smash and down aerial with the latter also benefiting from the changes to hitstun.  

Despite her the nerfs to her damage output, frame data and projectile game, Peach is a stronger character overall relative to the cast having greater KO potential and being less susceptible to juggling and the changes to the game's mechanics help her more than they hinder her as she received multiple significant benefits from them while only receiving one significant hindrance. As a result, she has seen greater results in competitive play.  

*{{bugfix|Both of Peach's KO screams in ''Brawl'' had swapped places; the alternate KO scream is the main KO scream and vice versa, matching the order on the game files.}}

**{{buff|The late hit deals much more knockback (50 (base), 55 (scaling) → 40/120).}}  

**{{nerf|The clean hit deals much less damage (13%/11%/10% → 7%/7%/8%), and it launches opponents at less favorable angles (90°/100°/80°). This hinders the body/leg hitboxes' KO potential despite their increased knockback (35 (base), 85 (scaling) → 50/102) and even the foot hitbox is weaker than the previous body hitbox.}}  

**{{nerf|The heart blast deals much less damage (13% → 8%) and its knockback was barely increased (60 (base), 70 (scaling) → 40/84), greatly hindering its KO potential despite its more favorable launch angle.}}  

****{{nerf|However against grounded opponents, this is negated by the fact that grounded [[meteor smash]]es can now be [[tech]]ed, hindering the move's effectiveness against grounded opponents overall.}}  

**{{nerf|The first hit has smaller hitboxes (5u/4u/4u → 4u/3u).}}  

**{{buff|Down smash has a received a fifth hit, which deals much more knockback (38 (base), 80 (scaling) → 40/180) and launches opponents forwards (145° → 361°), significantly improving its KO potential.}}  

**{{buff|The first four hits now have set knockback (38 (base), 80 (scaling) → 30/20 (set)/100) and have altered angles (145° → 15°/170°), making them connect far more reliably.}}  

**{{nerf|If Peach cancels her float after landing the clean hit, she can no longer connect both hits of neutral aerial, significantly reducing its maximum damage output (23% → 13%).}}  

**{{nerf|The clean hit deals less damage (14%/13% → 12%), although its knockback scaling was compensated (80 → 92).}}  

**{{change|Peach has a new up aerial: an arm swipe that draws a rainbow, consisting of two hits dealing 4% and 6% respectively.}}  

**{{buff|Up aerial now uses a string of extended hitboxes which match the rainbow, giving it greater horizontal reach, and making it more disjointed.}}  

**{{nerf|Down aerial's down string has reduced (4 -> 2 on fastfaller and heavyweight) without using a midair jump or platform.}}  

**{{buff|Down throw's hitbox now deals damage (0% → 1%), making down throw deal more damage overall (7% → 8%).}}  

**{{nerf|Floor attacks have less intangibility (frames 1-26 (front)/1-27 (back) → 1-24/1-23).}}  

**{{nerf|Edge attack has a smaller hitbox (6.72u → 4.5u) which along with its new animation, gives it less range.}}  

**{{buff|Toad's spores deal less damage (3% → 2%) and (with the exception of the final spore) have decreased knockback (40 (base), 180 (scaling) → 20/150), in addition to having altered angles (45° → 30°/361°/366°). This allows them to connect more reliably.}}  

**{{nerf|Peach Bomber has much more ending lag in the air (27 frames → 50), making it less useful for recovery.}}  

**{{change|All hits of Peach Parasol no longer have a normal effect and a [[slash]] sound effect, instead having a [[magic]] effect/sound effect.}}

**{{nerf|Peach Parasol gains slightly less height.}}  

**{{nerf|Peach can no longer perform her [[Turnip Free Pull]] and bone-waling techniques, hindering her mobility while plucking turnips.}}  

**{{nerf|Peach Blossom's near hit deals less damage (40% → 30%).}}  

*{{buff|Toad (FAF 64 → 62) and Sleepy/Grumpy Toad (FAF 66 → 61) have reduced ending lag and Toad also has slightly decreased startup lag (frame 11 → 10).}}

|fsmashdesc=Strikes with a bludgeon, cycling regularly between a golf club, frying pan, or a tennis racket. Each weapon has different properties - the frying pan has more vertical knockback (and the most damage), the golf club has more diagonal knockback (and the most range), and the tennis racket has more horizontal knockback and is the strongest semi-spike in the game.

|usc1desc=As the name implies, Peach jumps much higher than usual. However, it deals no damage and she never opens her parasol, leaving herself [[helpless]] afterwards.  

|usc2desc=At the cost of decreasing her initial jump, Peach gains additional vertical recovery every time she opens up her parasol. The move lasts roughly 2.5 seconds, with each parasol open adding a little time, just long enough to open it up to seven times while airborne. After that duration, Peach will become helpless. <ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RP0ZQydDwc&t=13m21s</ref>

|dsc1desc=The turnips are plucked much faster (in a similar way to ''Brawl'''s Vegetable) while dealing less damage. It travels the air more slowly and farther ahead. It will also fly back toward Peach if it hits an opponent, allowing her to throw another one while the last turnip is floating back towards her. The move will fail if there's already three Light Veggies out.

|fsdesc=Peach performs a mystic dance, causing all of her enemies to fall [[Asleep|asleep]]. The closer they are to her when she activates it, more damage will be dealt and they'll slumber for a longer time. Sleep duration is notably shorter than in ''Brawl''. Additionally, instead of thirteen small peaches healing 5%, three giant peaches appear, each healing 20%.

|+Vegetable Damage Data

| Grin || 2~13.4% || 7.5% || 15%

| Stare || 2~13.4% || 7.5% || 15%

| Closed Eyes || 2~13.4% || 7.5% || 15%

| Surprised || 2~13.4% || 7.5% || 15%

| Happy || 2~13.4% || 7.5% || 15%

==In competitive play==

 

''See also: [[:Category:Peach professionals (SSB4)]]''

*{{Sm|LingLing|USA}} - One of the best Peach players in the United States. Placed 5th at {{Trn|The Legend of Glentendo}}, 13th at both {{Trn|Shine 2016}} and {{Trn|Collision XIV}}, 17th at {{Trn|Shots Fired 2}}, and 25th at {{Trn|EVO 2017}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|ANTi}}, {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}}, and {{Sm|Mr E}}. Currently ranked 8th on the [[New England Power Rankings]].

*{{Sm|MuteAce|USA}} - One of the best Peach players in the United States. Placed 17th at both {{Trn|MomoCon 2018}} and {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2018}}, 25th at both {{Trn|Frostbite 2018}} and {{Trn|DreamHack Atlanta 2018}}, and 33rd at {{Trn|CEO 2017}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|MkLeo}}, {{Sm|Larry Lurr}}, and {{Sm|Abadango}}. Currently ranked 1st on the [[South Florida Power Rankings]].

*{{Sm|Samsora|USA}} (#22) - The best Peach player in the world. Placed 2nd at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2018}}, 5th at both {{Trn|CEO Dreamland}} and {{Trn|DreamHack Atlanta 2018}}, 7th at {{Trn|GameTyrant Expo 2017}}, and 9th at {{Trn|2GGC: Nairo Saga}}.  

*{{Sm|Twi|USA}} - Placed 5th at {{Trn|Aftershock 2016}}, 13th at {{Trn|Low Tier City 5}} and {{Trn|Clutch City Clash 2}}, and 25th at {{Trn|2GGC: Nairo Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|CaptainZack}} and {{Sm|Rich Brown}}. Formerly ranked 2nd on the [[Texas Power Rankings]].

*{{Sm|Umeki|Japan}} (#94) - The best Peach player in Japan. Placed 2nd at {{Trn|Umeki Project}}, 4th at both {{Trn|Battle Arena Melbourne 8}} and {{Trn|Umebura 24}}, 7th at {{Trn|Umebura 31}}, and 9th at {{Trn|Umebura Smash 4 Final}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|KEN}}, {{Sm|6WX}}, and {{Sm|Nietono}}. Ranked 24th on the [[JAPAN Power Rankings]].

*{{Sm|SlayerZ|USA}} - The best Peach player during the first 2 years of ''Smash 4''. Placed 5th at {{Trn|2GGT: Fresh Saga}}, 7th at both {{Trn|Final Battle}} and {{Trn|Paragon Los Angeles 2015}}, 13th at {{Trn|2GGT: Mexico Saga}}, and 17th at {{Trn|GENESIS 3}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|VoiD}}, {{Sm|ESAM}}, and {{Sm|Elegant}}. Formerly ranked 29th on the [[Panda Global Rankings]]

Since the game's release, expectations of Peach have been those of a mid-tier, and often a high-tiered character. Players noted her steep learning curve made her a situational choice for competitive play, though others also cited her improvements since ''Brawl'' and how her playstyle was very rewarding once she was mastered to her fullest. The changes to shield mechanics were also beneficial to her as they significantly improved her pressure game. As a result, and due to hardly any nerf she got in game updates, she has always been seen as a viable, if hard to master, choice for competitive play. Despite her learning curve giving her a noticeably below average playerbase, smashers like {{Sm|Kie}}, {{Sm|SlayerZ}}, {{Sm|Samsora}} and {{Sm|Umeki}} have been able to demonstrate her capabilities in tournaments at a major degree. This led to Peach being placed at 19th in the first ''4BR'' [[tier list]].

Peach's results, however, while consistent, have never been as bountiful as other characters ranked above her, and eventually, other characters ranked below her, causing expectations of her to slowly drop. This was further compounded by the worsening of her infinite combo (the "Umeki Rainbow"). Because of this, she dropped on the second tier list at 26th. She then saw a moderate rise to 21st on the third tier list, and finally to 20th on the fourth and current tier list. Regardless, while her mixed perception within the community has improved for the better, and she continues to gain rather strong results, it is unknown how her tier placement will fare in the long run due to the scarcity of these results.

==Trophies==

:'''Peach'''

::{{flag|North America}} ''Princess of the Mushroom Kingdom, Peach continues to prove that "powerful" and "cute" are not mutually exclusive. In Smash Bros., Peach uses her dress to float above the fray, suddenly descending and attacking with numerous weapons. A frying pan? Umbrella? TOAD?! Where does she keep it all?''

::{{flag|Europe}} ''The Mushroom Kingdom's princess isn't just a pretty face - she's also strong and crafty. She can dodge attacks by gliding through the air, and she's hiding all sorts of stuff under that dress: a frying pan, a tennis racket, a golf club...even a Toad! If you're planning to take on Peach, just know that she's more than ready for you!''

{{Trophy games|console1=NES|game1=Super Mario Bros. 10/1985|console2=DS|game2=[[supermariowiki:Super Princess Peach|Super Princess Peach]] 02/2006}}

:'''Peach (Alt.)'''

::{{flag|North America}} ''Peach may be a princess, but that doesn't mean she shies away from an honest day's work. Her down special Vegetable is basically farm labor, and the fruits...er, vegetables of her work can be thrown. An angry-looking vegetable will do extra damage, too! She can also pull up Bob-ombs, or even a Mr. Saturn!''

 

::{{flag|Europe}} ''Peach normally sticks to tasks befitting a royal, but her Vegetable special is pretty much farm labour! You can tell how much damage the veggies will do by looking a them. Happy/indifferent ones just do a bit, while the ones that just look sick of life do a lot. And the ones that look like Bob-ombs or Mr. Saturn aren't veggies at all!''

 

{{Trophy games|console1=NES|game1=Super Mario Bros. 10/1985|console2=DS|game2=[[supermariowiki:Super Princess Peach|Super Princess Peach]] 02/2006}}

 

::''Peach's Final Smash is quite a spectacle to behold. Giant illustrations of Peach herself frame the screen, giant peaches rain down, and all the other fighters fall asleep. The closer they are to Peach, the longer they'll stay snoozing, giving Peach plenty of time to send foes flying or to recover her health with the peaches.''

 

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