Ledgestall: Difference between revisions

As soon as a character grabs the [[ledge]], they will enter the "CliffCatch" animation that lasts 7 frames (3 for {{SSBM|Link}}) and will have complete intangibility that lasts 30 frames longer than the CliffCatch animation. On the last frame of CliffCatch, they will be able to perform all ledge options except for letting go (ledge attack, ledge roll, ledge climb, or ledge jump). If they don't perform any of these, they will enter the "CliffWait" animation during which they can also let go of the ledge. To do this, they will need to move either the control stick or the C-stick from the neutral position to either a downward or a backward input.

 

The character now has 29 frames of intangibility left that can be used freely. As soon as they drop from the ledge, the "Disabled Regrab Period" (DRP) countdown timer starts at 29 frames (a character must wait ~half a second between letting go of an edge and grabbing it again). Thus, maintaining continuous intangibility requires dropping from the ledge on the first frame it is possible – otherwise, there would be at least one frame without intangibility on which the DRP timer was still active.

==Up special ledgestall==

{{SSBM|Zelda}}, Sheik, {{SSBM|Fox}}, {{SSBM|Falco}}, {{SSBM|Yoshi}}, {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, {{SSBM|Dr. Mario}} and {{SSBM|Pikachu}} can ledgestall with their up specials. Sheik's "Shino Stall", named after Japanese Sheik player {{Sm|Shino}}, is by far the easiest and most useful as her up special has innate intangibility, a strong hitbox and many movement options. Dr. Mario's up special cancel<ref>[https://smashboards.com/threads/doctor-mario-hitboxes-and-frame-data.309998/]</ref> can be used to grab the ledge from directly next to it.

 

Fox_shine-firestall_80ms.gif|Fox's shine-firestall, 1/4x playback speed, debug mode: collision and environment visibility on

Falco_up-B_legdestall_No_leniency_20ms_standard_display.gif|Falco's firestall, 1x speed, earliest possible inputs

Falco_up-B_legdestall_No_leniency_100-1000ms_input_slowdown.gif|Falco's firestall, 1/6-1/60x speed, debug mode: collision and environment visibility on, object texture visibility off, earliest possible inputs

Falco_up-B_legdestall_Maximum_leniency_20ms_standard_display.gif|Falco's firestall, 1x speed, latest possible inputs

Falco up-B legdestall Maximum leniency 100-1000ms input slowdown.gif|Falco's firestall, 1/6-1/60x speed, debug mode: collision and environment visibility on, object texture visibility off, latest possible inputs

Sheik up-B ledgestall ff 80ms.gif|Sheik's Shino Stall, 20% playback speed, debug mode: collision visibility on, object texture visibility off

Captain Falcon invincible ledgehopstall late 80ms.gif|Captain Falcon, 1/4x speed, latest possible second jump

Ganondorf invincible ledgehopstall late 80ms.gif|Ganondorf, 1/4x speed, latest possible second jump

Link invincible ledgehopstall late 80ms.gif|Link, 1/4x speed, latest possible second jump

Roy invincible ledgehopstall late 80ms.gif|Roy, 1/4x speed, latest possible second jump

Bowser invincible ledgehopstall late 80ms.gif|Bowser, 1/4x speed, latest possible second jump

It's also possible to jump immediately after dropping from the ledge and fastfall after the peak of the jump. This is considered technically harder because holding down too long will prevent the ledgegrab.

 

Captain_Falcon_invincible_ledgehopstall.gif|Captain Falcon, 1/4x speed, early second jump

Ganondorf invincible ledgehopstall early 80ms.gif|Ganondorf, 1/4x speed, earliest possible second jump

Link invincible ledgehopstall early 80ms.gif|Link, 1/4x speed, earliest possible second jump

Roy invincible ledgehopstall early 80ms.gif|Roy, 1/4x speed, earliest possible second jump

Bowser invincible ledgehopstall early 80ms.gif|Bowser, 1/4x speed, earliest possible second jump

Ledgedashstall 20ms.gif|Marth performs the ledgedashstall with fastfall.

CF_Ledgedashstall_no_ff_17ms_with_input_display.gif|Captain Falcon starts the ledgedashstall as quickly has possible. If he did fastfall, he would not grab the ledge.

CF Ledgedashstall ff 17ms with input display.gif|Captain Falcon uses his airdodge as late as possible while still staying invincible. If he did not fastfall, he would be vulnerable for a few frames.