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'''Ganondorf''' ({{ja|ガノンドロフ|Ganondorofu}}, ''Ganondorf'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''. ''{{iw|zeldawiki|The Legend of Zelda|Series}}'' series director Eiji Aonuma first hinted that Ganondorf would return from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' when he stated that he sent (Ganondorf), [[Link]], and [[Sheik]]'s ''[[zeldawiki:The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess|Twilight Princess]]'' designs to [[Masahiro Sakurai]].<ref>[https://www.destructoid.com/eiji-aonuma-on-the-ds-phantom-hourglass-and-smash-bros-37441.phtml]</ref> He was ultimately confirmed on March 18, 2008. Ganondorf is now voiced by Hironori Miyata, his voice actor from ''Twilight Princess'', albeit via reused voice clips from the game, replacing Takashi Nagasako, from ''The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time'' and ''Melee''.
'''Ganondorf''' ({{ja|ガノンドロフ|Ganondorofu}}, ''Ganondorf'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''. ''{{iw|zeldawiki|The Legend of Zelda|Series}}'' series director Eiji Aonuma first hinted that Ganondorf would return from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' when he stated that he sent (Ganondorf), [[Link]], and [[Sheik]]'s ''[[zeldawiki:The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess|Twilight Princess]]'' designs to [[Masahiro Sakurai]].<ref>[https://www.destructoid.com/eiji-aonuma-on-the-ds-phantom-hourglass-and-smash-bros-37441.phtml]</ref> He was ultimately confirmed on March 18, 2008. Most of Ganondorf's voice clips are from ''Twilight Princess'' and were performed by Hironori Miyata, while his [[Wii Remote selection sound]] is from ''The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time'' and was performed by Takashi Nagasako; it last appeared in ''Melee''{{'}}s Sound Test.


Ganondorf is ranked dead last on the ''Brawl'' [[tier list]], in 38th place out of the 38 characters in the game. This is a significant drop from his position on the ''Melee'' tier list, where he ranked 14th out of 26, and is tied with [[Ganondorf (SSBU)|his later iteration from ''Ultimate'']] as his worst placement in the ''Smash'' series to date. Ganondorf's few strengths include high power throughout his moveset, respectable endurance, strong [[momentum cancelling]] capabilities, fearsome [[edgeguard]]ing abilities, access to the most powerful [[meteor smash]] in the game in his [[down aerial]], and a great [[semi-spike]] in his [[up aerial]]. Ganondorf has also gained a new combo starter in [[Flame Choke]] and a superjump glitch in the [[Flight of Ganon]].
Ganondorf is ranked dead last on the ''Brawl'' [[tier list]], in 38th place out of the 38 characters in the game. This is a significant drop from his position on the ''Melee'' tier list, where he ranked 14th out of 26, and is tied with [[Ganondorf (SSBU)|his later iteration from ''Ultimate'']] as his worst placement in the ''Smash'' series to date. Ganondorf's few strengths include high power throughout his moveset, respectable endurance, strong [[momentum cancelling]] capabilities, fearsome [[edgeguard]]ing abilities, access to the most powerful [[meteor smash]] in the game in his [[down aerial]], and a great [[semi-spike]] in his [[up aerial]]. Ganondorf has also gained a new combo starter in [[Flame Choke]] and a superjump glitch in the [[Flight of Ganon]].
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Ganondorf's overall moveset has received an overhaul from ''Melee''. While he still shares some moves from {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}}, he has received different animations and moves that now make him a semi-clone rather than a full clone.
Ganondorf's overall moveset has received an overhaul from ''Melee''. While he still shares some moves from {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}}, he has received different animations and moves that now make him a semi-clone rather than a full clone.


Despite being a low-mid tier in Melee while also receiving some good buffs, Ganondorf was immensely [[nerf]]ed from ''Melee'', being one of the most nerfed characters in the transition alongside {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}} and one of the most severely nerfed characters in the entire series. His already slow mobility has been weakened, and some of his moves have less [[reach]] (despite his tall stature), leaving him very easily out-maneuvered and vulnerable from all sides. His comboing and KOing ability also have been severely crippled: his grabs can no longer [[chain throw]] nor set up effectively as before; and his great power has been toned down to being only slightly above-average, due to his moves either being drastically weakened to the point where they cannot K.O. even at 200% or have received extremely large [[sourspot]]s that cannot KO reliably, most notably his forward aerial, the crux of his metagame in ''Melee''. Finally, his already poor recovery was significantly weakened to be among the worst, with his main recovery move ([[Dark Dive]]) being completely unsafe on hit.
Despite being a low-mid tier in Melee while also receiving some good buffs, Ganondorf was catastrophically [[nerf]]ed from ''Melee'', being one of the most nerfed characters in the transition alongside {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}. His already slow mobility has been weakened, and some of his moves have less [[reach]] (despite his tall stature), leaving him very easily out-maneuvered and vulnerable from all sides. His comboing and KOing ability also have been severely crippled: his grabs can no longer [[chain throw]] nor set up effectively as before; and his great power has been toned down to being only slightly above-average, due to his moves either being drastically weakened to the point where they cannot K.O. even at 200% or have received extremely large [[sourspot]]s that cannot KO reliably, most notably his forward aerial, the crux of his metagame in ''Melee''. Finally, his already poor recovery was significantly weakened to be among the worst, with his main recovery move ([[Dark Dive]]) being completely unsafe on hit.


On the other hand, he did receive a few notable buffs. His [[air speed]] is much faster (although still among the slowest), his forward tilt now [[semi-spike]]s and is effective against enemies with weak recoveries, his up and down tilts have significantly improved range, and he now has the highest damaging forward throw in the game. [[Warlock Punch]] and aerial [[Wizard's Foot]] are much stronger, and [[Dark Dive]] now has a hitbox at the move's climax that provides decent protection against edgeguarders, along with being able to grab ledge-hangers. Arguably the biggest buff he received is a new side special, [[Flame Choke]], which gives Ganondorf a combo starter and tech-chasing move. However, none of these are significant enough to counterbalance the nerfs he had received, while most of these moves were also nerfed as well.
On the other hand, he did receive a few notable buffs. His [[air speed]] is much faster (although still among the slowest), his forward tilt now [[semi-spike]]s and is effective against enemies with weak recoveries, his up and down tilts have significantly improved range, and he now has the highest damaging forward throw in the game. [[Warlock Punch]] and aerial [[Wizard's Foot]] are much stronger, and [[Dark Dive]] now has a hitbox at the move's climax that provides decent protection against edgeguarders, along with being able to grab ledge-hangers. Arguably the biggest buff he received is a new side special, [[Flame Choke]], which gives Ganondorf a combo starter and tech-chasing move. However, none of these are significant enough to counterbalance the nerfs he had received, while most of these moves were also nerfed as well.
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|fsdmg=10% (grounding), 10% (stomp), 45% (charge)
|fsdmg=10% (grounding), 10% (stomp), 45% (charge)
|fsdesc=Ganondorf becomes his beast form and rams into the opponent. Opponents too close upon initiation are buried, while those otherwise in front will be paralyzed.
|fsdesc=Ganondorf becomes his beast form and rams into the opponent. Opponents too close upon initiation are buried, while those otherwise in front will be paralyzed.
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===Stats===
{{technical data|Needs short hop and double jump heights}}
{{Attributes
|cast      = 39
|weight    = 109
|rweight    = 6
|dash      = 1.3
|rdash      = 29-35
|run        = 1.16
|rrun      = 38
|walk      = 0.73
|rwalk      = 37
|trac      = 0.068
|rtrac      = 7-8
|airfric    = 0.015
|rairfric  = 6-12
|air        = 0.846
|rair      = 30-31
|baseaccel  = 0.01
|rbaseaccel = 7-36
|addaccel  = 0.03
|raddaccel  = 36-37
|gravity    = 0.1027
|rgravity  = 6-8
|fall      = 1.65
|rfall      = 7-8
|ff        = 2.31
|rff        = 8-9
|jumpsquat  = 7
|rjumpsquat = 36-37
|jumpheight = 25.50106535
|rjumpheight= 36
|shorthop  = ?
|rshorthop  = ?
|djump      = ?
|rdjump    = ?
}}
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==In [[competitive play]]==
==In [[competitive play]]==
===Matchups===
{{SSBBMatchupTable|ganondorf=yes}}
Ganondorf has, inarguably, the worst matchup spread not only in ''Brawl'', but in the entire ''Smash'' series. Being one of two characters in any game to hold this distinction (the other being {{SSB|Donkey Kong}} in the Japanese version of ''Smash 64''), he has a losing matchup against every other character. He is soft countered by 3 characters, countered by 11 characters, hard countered by 17 characters, and has 5 nearly unwinnable matchups. Characters can overwhelm him with blinding attack speed ({{SSBB|Meta Knight}} and {{SSBB|Sheik}}), outcamp him at any range ({{SSBB|Olimar}} and {{SSBB|Falco}}), or [[chain grab]] him to death ({{SSBB|Ice Climbers}} and {{SSBB|King Dedede}}), all of which almost completely nullify his strong punish game. Ultimately, Ganondorf is completely outmatched by every character in the game, and is the only positive matchup for some characters ({{SSBB|Captain Falcon}}, {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}, and {{SSBB|Zelda}}).
===Most historically significant players===
===Most historically significant players===
:''See also: [[:Category:Ganondorf players (SSBB)]]
:''See also: [[:Category:Ganondorf players (SSBB)]]
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*Zelda (Ocarina of Time): [Flame] Resistance +18
*Zelda (Ocarina of Time): [Flame] Resistance +18


==In [[Event Matches]]==
==In Solo Modes==
===Solo Events===
==={{SSBB|Classic Mode}}===
In Classic Mode, Ganondorf can appear as an opponent or ally in Stage 1 if he has been unlocked along with {{SSBB|Link}}, {{SSBB|Zelda}}/{{SSBB|Sheik}}, and {{SSBB|Toon Link}} on [[Bridge of Eldin]] or [[Pirate Ship]] (with the latter available if it has been unlocked). Ganondorf can also appear as an opponent in Stage 11, but only if he hasn't appeared in Stage 1.
 
===[[All-Star Mode]]===
In All-Star Mode, Ganondorf is fought in Stage 6 alongside {{SSBB|Link}}, {{SSBB|Zelda}}/{{SSBB|Sheik}}, and {{SSBB|Toon Link}} on [[Bridge of Eldin]] or [[Pirate Ship]].
 
===[[Event Match]]es===
====Solo Events====
*'''[[Event 31: The Ultimate Bodyguard]]''': As {{SSBB|Marth}}, the player must defend {{SSBB|Zelda}} and defeat two Ganondorfs on [[Castle Siege]]. During the third background change, Zelda will transform into {{SSBB|Sheik}} and assist Marth.
*'''[[Event 31: The Ultimate Bodyguard]]''': As {{SSBB|Marth}}, the player must defend {{SSBB|Zelda}} and defeat two Ganondorfs on [[Castle Siege]]. During the third background change, Zelda will transform into {{SSBB|Sheik}} and assist Marth.
*'''[[Event 33: Advent of the Evil King]]''': As Ganondorf, the player must defeat {{SSBB|Link}}, {{SSBB|Zelda}} and {{SSBB|Pit}} on [[Temple]].
*'''[[Event 33: Advent of the Evil King]]''': As Ganondorf, the player must defeat {{SSBB|Link}}, {{SSBB|Zelda}} and {{SSBB|Pit}} on [[Temple]].
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*'''[[Event 40: The Final Battle]]''': The player selects any character and must defeat {{SSBB|Bowser}}, {{SSBB|King Dedede}}, and Ganondorf on {{SSBB|Final Destination}}.
*'''[[Event 40: The Final Battle]]''': The player selects any character and must defeat {{SSBB|Bowser}}, {{SSBB|King Dedede}}, and Ganondorf on {{SSBB|Final Destination}}.


===Co-op Events===
===Co-Op Events===
*'''[[Co-Op Event 13: Blades of the Quick and Mighty]]''': {{SSBB|Marth}} and {{SSBB|Ike}} must defeat {{SSBB|Link}}, {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}, and Ganondorf on [[Temple]].
*'''[[Co-Op Event 13: Blades of the Quick and Mighty]]''': {{SSBB|Marth}} and {{SSBB|Ike}} must defeat {{SSBB|Link}}, {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}, and Ganondorf on [[Temple]].
*'''[[Co-Op Event 14: The Dark Guardians]]''': Ganondorf and {{SSBB|Wolf}}, who are tiny, must defeat a giant {{SSBB|Donkey Kong}} and a giant {{SSBB|Charizard}} on [[New Pork City]].
*'''[[Co-Op Event 14: The Dark Guardians]]''': Ganondorf and {{SSBB|Wolf}}, who are tiny, must defeat a giant {{SSBB|Donkey Kong}} and a giant {{SSBB|Charizard}} on [[New Pork City]].
*'''[[Co-Op Event 20: The Final Battle for Two]]''': Both players select a character and must defeat {{SSBB|Bowser}}, {{SSBB|Wario}}, {{SSBB|King Dedede}}, {{SSBB|Wolf}}, {{SSBB|Meta Knight}} and Ganondorf on {{SSBB|Final Destination}}.
*'''[[Co-Op Event 20: The Final Battle for Two]]''': Both players select a character and must defeat {{SSBB|Bowser}}, {{SSBB|Wario}}, {{SSBB|King Dedede}}, {{SSBB|Wolf}}, {{SSBB|Meta Knight}} and Ganondorf on {{SSBB|Final Destination}}.
*'''[[Co-Op Event 21: The True All-Star Battle]]''': Both players select a character and take on the entire roster on {{SSBB|Battlefield}}.
*'''[[Co-Op Event 21: The True All-Star Battle]]''': Both players select a character and take on the entire roster on {{SSBB|Battlefield}}.
===[[Congratulations_screen#Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl|Ending Images]]===
<center>
<gallery>
Ganondorf Classic Mode Congratulations Screen Brawl.png|Classic Mode
Ganondorf Congratulations Screen All-Star Brawl.png|All-Star Mode
</gallery>
</center>


==[[Trophies]]==
==[[Trophies]]==
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*Though Ganondorf can be the first character unlocked by completing Classic Mode as Link or Zelda on Hard difficulty, he is one of the last characters to be unlocked by playing the Subspace Emissary, as the mode's antagonists are among the last characters to join the player's party.
*Though Ganondorf can be the first character unlocked by completing Classic Mode as Link or Zelda on Hard difficulty, he is one of the last characters to be unlocked by playing the Subspace Emissary, as the mode's antagonists are among the last characters to join the player's party.
**He and Wario are the only characters in ''Brawl'' when going through the Subspace Emissary that is neither unlocked by simply clearing a level, nor defeated in a secret room.
**He and Wario are the only characters in ''Brawl'' when going through the Subspace Emissary that is neither unlocked by simply clearing a level, nor defeated in a secret room.
*The sound clip that plays on the [[Wii Remote]] speaker when Ganondorf is selected is a sound clip from ''Melee'' that was only present in the Sound Test.
*While {{SSBB|Ike}} has the most meteor smashes in ''Brawl'', two of them are impossible to land on aerial opponents. Because of this, Ganondorf is tied with {{SSBB|Diddy Kong}} for having the most meteor smashes landable on aerial opponents, with four.
*While {{SSBB|Ike}} has the most meteor smashes in ''Brawl'', two of them are impossible to land on aerial opponents. Because of this, Ganondorf is tied with {{SSBB|Diddy Kong}} for having the most meteor smashes landable on aerial opponents, with four.
*Ganondorf and {{SSBB|R.O.B.}} are the only unlockable characters in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' to be unlocked on a [[stage]] that is not from their respective universes. Ganondorf is unlocked on Final Destination, and R.O.B is unlocked on [[Mario Bros.]] Ganondorf is also the only unlockable character in ''Brawl'' to be fought on a {{uv|Super Smash Bros.}} universe stage ({{SSBB|Final Destination}}) when unlocking. In ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'', {{SSBM|Ganondorf}} along with {{SSBM|Falco}} and {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, were all fought on a ''Super Smash Bros.'' universe stage (making it three unlockable characters to be unlocked on a stage from the ''Super Smash Bros.'' universe instead of their respective universe), though Falco was fought on {{SSBM|Battlefield}} when unlocking. Ganondorf and Mewtwo were both fought on {{SSBM|Final Destination}} before getting unlocked.
*Ganondorf and {{SSBB|R.O.B.}} are the only unlockable characters in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' to be unlocked on a [[stage]] that is not from their respective universes. Ganondorf is unlocked on Final Destination, and R.O.B is unlocked on [[Mario Bros.]] Ganondorf is also the only unlockable character in ''Brawl'' to be fought on a {{uv|Super Smash Bros.}} universe stage ({{SSBB|Final Destination}}) when unlocking. In ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'', {{SSBM|Ganondorf}} along with {{SSBM|Falco}} and {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, were all fought on a ''Super Smash Bros.'' universe stage (making it three unlockable characters to be unlocked on a stage from the ''Super Smash Bros.'' universe instead of their respective universe), though Falco was fought on {{SSBM|Battlefield}} when unlocking. Ganondorf and Mewtwo were both fought on {{SSBM|Final Destination}} before getting unlocked.
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