Forum:Removal of Origin Game/Artwork from List of spirits pages: Difference between revisions

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#I mean, we ''are'' an encyclopedia of information. We cover tons of origin-based information the mainline games don't bother to cover. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:40, April 24, 2020 (EDT)
#I mean, we ''are'' an encyclopedia of information. We cover tons of origin-based information the mainline games don't bother to cover. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:40, April 24, 2020 (EDT)
#I feel like I would have agreed with deletion had the artwork all been from their origin game, but in many cases, especially the Pokemon spirits, the artwork doesn't come from their origin games but rather from other games. I feel like we should instead be focusing on narrowing down what the true origins of these artworks are. For starters, Bulbapedia has already identified all of the [[Bulbapedia:Category:Spirits artwork|Pokemon spirits.]] [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 05:57, April 29, 2020 (EDT)
#I feel like I would have agreed with deletion had the artwork all been from their origin game, but in many cases, especially the Pokemon spirits, the artwork doesn't come from their origin games but rather from other games. I feel like we should instead be focusing on narrowing down what the true origins of these artworks are. For starters, Bulbapedia has already identified all of the [[Bulbapedia:Category:Spirits artwork|Pokemon spirits.]] [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 05:57, April 29, 2020 (EDT)
#So from what I can see the main reasons for the removal is because of speculation, redundancy and because it's unofficial. But there are problems with that. Exactly what part of it is speculation? If saying Ninten originated from EarthBound Beginnings as seen in the origin  game column [[List of spirits (EarthBound series)]] then that is false. If you say the ''way we listed'' them is speculation then I can see that. But [[SW:SPEC]] does not apply here: speculation that should be avoided is if us editors or other people add their theories or assumptions to articles that could potentially spread false information. The origin game/artwork section lists the game the character originated from and where the artwork originated. That is in no way speculation or false information.
#So from what I can see the main reasons for the removal is because of speculation, redundancy and because it's unofficial. But there are problems with that. Exactly what part of it is speculation? If saying Ninten originated from EarthBound Beginnings as seen in the origin game column [[List of spirits (EarthBound series)]] is speculation, then that makes absolutely no sense. If you say the ''way we listed'' them is speculation then I can see that. But [[SW:SPEC]] does not apply here: speculation that should be avoided is if us editors or other people add their theories or assumptions to articles that could potentially spread false information. The origin game/artwork section lists the game the character originated from and where the artwork originated. That is in no way speculation or false information.


::Redundancy makes no sense. As mentioned above many long running series all list only one origin series for all spirits, which is no less redundant than saying all Punch Out spirits artwork came from the Wii title.
::Redundancy makes no sense. As mentioned above many long running series all list only one origin series for all spirits, which is no less redundant than saying all Punch Out spirits artwork came from the Wii title.