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 #I mean, we ''are'' an encyclopedia of information. We cover tons of origin-based information the mainline games don't bother to cover. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:40, April 24, 2020 (EDT)
 #I feel like I would have agreed with deletion had the artwork all been from their origin game, but in many cases, especially the Pokemon spirits, the artwork doesn't come from their origin games but rather from other games. I feel like we should instead be focusing on narrowing down what the true origins of these artworks are. For starters, Bulbapedia has already identified all of the [[Bulbapedia:Category:Spirits artwork|Pokemon spirits.]] [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 05:57, April 29, 2020 (EDT)
+#So from what I can see the main reasons for the removal is because of speculation, redundancy and because it's unofficial. But there are problems with that. Exactly what part of it is speculation? If saying Ninten originated from EarthBound Beginnings as seen in the origin  game column [[List of spirits (EarthBound series)]] then that is false. If you say the ''way we listed'' them is speculation then I can see that. But [[SW:SPEC]] does not apply here: speculation that should be avoided is if us editors or other people add their theories or assumptions to articles that could potentially spread false information. The origin game/artwork section lists the game the character originated from and where the artwork originated. That is in no way speculation or false information.
+::Redundancy makes no sense. As mentioned above many long running series all list only one origin series for all spirits, which is no less redundant than saying all Punch Out spirits artwork came from the Wii title.
+::Listing unofficially is no reason to remove it. [[SW:OFFICIAL|We are not official]]. We don't need to list things the way Nintendo does, in fact there are times we don't because [[Template:SSBU character table|the way we list it is better than the official way.]]
+::And that brings my last point: by removing the column you're also removing interesting information on where the artwork originated. As someone who has such little knowledge of the Pokemon series (Get off my lawn you pesky kids! There are only 251 Pokemon as far as I'm concerned! *waves double cane*), I never knew the spirit artwork was from the global link I never heard of, and I thought they were Smash- original artwork until I read the article then I learned. So my thoughts are the saying "If it's not broken then don't fix it": keep things the way they are as removing it will probably do more harm than good. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<span style="font-size:12pt"><font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font></span>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font>]]'''</span> 07:48, April 29, 2020 (EDT)
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 #I'm neutral on this, though I lean toward keeping it. I wouldn't be torn up if it were removed, but I don't see the need to remove it either. The "series" listing is vague and at times [[List of spirits (Super Mario series)#Trivia|inaccurate]], and it is still useful and interesting information to have, not necessarily superfluous. I do agree something needs to be done about the clunky "series order" sections, so if this is the solution I can see the case for it. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 18:57, March 16, 2020 (EDT)
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