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I feel there's been a lot of interest lately over tweaking the dissonance between the current treatment of smashers, crews, and tournaments. There's a couple ways we can go about this. Let's have an official on-wiki discussion.
I feel there's been a lot of interest lately over tweaking the dissonance between the current treatment of smashers, crews, and tournaments. There's a couple ways we can go about this. Let's have an official on-wiki discussion.


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# Agree with the 2 users above me, I think crews are not important enough [[User:Patzui|Patzui]] ([[User talk:Patzui|talk]]) 04:22, 17 September 2017 (EDT)
# Agree with the 2 users above me, I think crews are not important enough [[User:Patzui|Patzui]] ([[User talk:Patzui|talk]]) 04:22, 17 September 2017 (EDT)
# Although crews are important to quite a few people (I'm in one as well), crews are overall a too minor part of Smash Bros. to need their own namespace. Tournaments are a large part of Smash Bros., especially in this era, where major tournaments are showing up on a monthly or even weekly basis now. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 01:27, 20 September 2017 (EDT)
# Although crews are important to quite a few people (I'm in one as well), crews are overall a too minor part of Smash Bros. to need their own namespace. Tournaments are a large part of Smash Bros., especially in this era, where major tournaments are showing up on a monthly or even weekly basis now. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 01:27, 20 September 2017 (EDT)
#Echoing Flare and <s>Taste the Rainbow</s> Skittles; I don't see crews needing a namespace. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:14, 22 October 2017 (EDT)


====Option 2: Create a <code>Tournament:</code> namespace and a <code>Crew:</code> namespace.====
====Option 2: Create a <code>Tournament:</code> namespace and a <code>Crew:</code> namespace.====
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# I think “Team” is the best of the available options for me. - [[User:The Gamer 91|The Gamer 91]] ([[User talk:The Gamer 91|talk]]) 10:01, October 6, 2017 (CT)
# I think “Team” is the best of the available options for me. - [[User:The Gamer 91|The Gamer 91]] ([[User talk:The Gamer 91|talk]]) 10:01, October 6, 2017 (CT)
# '''Namespace as "Crew"''' per many of the above arguments. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 23:38, 6 October 2017 (EDT)
# '''Namespace as "Crew"''' per many of the above arguments. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 23:38, 6 October 2017 (EDT)
# '''Namespace as Crew''' Although I understand the logic of crews being too minor to deserve a namespace, that's more the fault of the decision to have articles on crews in the first place. Having articles about crews open their pages with "Tournament:" would be confusing and misleading. I would prefer the prefix "Sponsor:" if the articles were just ones such as [[2GGaming]] and [[VGBootCamp]], but the inclusion of pages like [[Ha Ha You Lose]] and [[San Diego Love! ♥]] throws a spanner into this. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:01, 11 October 2017 (EDT)
# '''Namespace as "Team"''' for the reasons already given by others above. [[User:Sniffnoy|Sniffnoy]] ([[User talk:Sniffnoy|talk]]) 17:44, 13 October 2017 (EDT)
# '''Namespace as "Team"''', feels the most natural. -[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 12:04, 14 October 2017 (EDT)
# Per everyone. [[User:Penro|<font color="red">'''Pen'''</font>]][[User talk:Penro|<font color="black">'''''ro'''''</font>]] 10:34, 10 November 2017 (EST)


====Option 5: Create a <code>Competitive:</code> namespace. Put both crews and tournaments into it.====
====Option 5: Create a <code>Competitive:</code> namespace. Put both crews and tournaments into it.====
Vote here if you think crews should share the tournament namespace, which would be named appropriately.
Vote here if you think crews should share the tournament namespace, which would be named appropriately.


#...
# The reason that Smasher: was created in the first place, I imagine, was to distinguish in-game content from out-of-game content, and one namespace is sufficient for this. Furthermore, are we really sure that there aren't even more subjects relating competitive play, which will not fit under the very specific namespaces of smasher, tournament, and team?  &ndash; [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] 16:05, 8 November 2017 (EST)
 
===The decision===
It is pretty clear that option 2 is the winner.
*There will be a <code>Tournament:</code> namespace. This is basically unanimous.
*There will be a <code>Team:</code> namespace, with <code>Crew:</code> acting as a redirect (as Image: does to File:). I know this isn't the consensus, but I believe it is the better option, and having the redirect available means it doesn't really matter too much.
Next steps: [[User:eXemplary Logic|XL]] (which if you don't know, is a bot that I run) will be handling the mass-move of all tournament and crew pages. However, this can't be done immediately; there needs to be a fair amount of preparation (such as generating the lists of "from pages" and "to pages"). Once the bot is ready to go, [[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] (the owner/developer) will be contacted to add the namespaces. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Da Bess 18:39, 11 November 2017 (EST)
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