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:No. Because even though that's most certainly possible, it's less likely than the reverse. And that logic is based off of tournament results and matchups. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="firebrick"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lightcoral">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lightcoral">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 03:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | :No. Because even though that's most certainly possible, it's less likely than the reverse. And that logic is based off of tournament results and matchups. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="firebrick"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lightcoral">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lightcoral">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 03:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Not if you're still better than he or she is. Although the empirical evidence from which tiers are derived don't originate from matches between players of identical skill, because they represent a huge number of independent trials, the data can be said to approximate matches between players of theoretically identical skill with all variables like stage picks accounted for via randomization/replication. Unless you can show me a video of you beating a player of identical skill in such a manner, anything you do is meaningless. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=black><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 04:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | :Not if you're still better than he or she is. Although the empirical evidence from which tiers are derived don't originate from matches between players of identical skill, because they represent a huge number of independent trials, the data can be said to approximate matches between players of theoretically identical skill with all variables like stage picks accounted for via randomization/replication. Unless you can show me a video of you beating a player of identical skill in such a manner, anything you do is meaningless. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=black><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 04:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
Unfortunately it's nigh impossible to measure the "skill" of a player. All you can do is look at game results and statistics, though these aren't necessarily valid measurements to determine skill. Very much the same way you can only "rate" characters based on tournament results, which may not be valid. I would argue that 2 players of identical skill, should be able to pick random, and granted they both showed their A games, the results should be consistently very close, showing that character selection, or at least the predisposition that some characters are automatically better, is trivial and false.[[User:KnaveofHearts|KnaveofHearts]] ([[User talk:KnaveofHearts|talk]]) 04:26, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | |||