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:You acknowledge that users may be allowed a second chance in certain scenarios. All a "fresh start" account does is allow the user to let go of their messy history. Obviously such a case requires admin permission and the user will be kept on a tight lease. You misrepresent my proposal as saying that users will "deserve" a second chance. That's not the case. A user has to contact an administrator and outline their case. The ultimate say still goes to the administration of the wiki. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  14:41, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
:You acknowledge that users may be allowed a second chance in certain scenarios. All a "fresh start" account does is allow the user to let go of their messy history. Obviously such a case requires admin permission and the user will be kept on a tight lease. You misrepresent my proposal as saying that users will "deserve" a second chance. That's not the case. A user has to contact an administrator and outline their case. The ultimate say still goes to the administration of the wiki. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  14:41, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
:Also, if you don't think the wikipedia list applies to SmashWiki, give specific examples. Even in cases where this wiki has not had many cases of the example doesn't mean it won't in the future (especially since we are expecting a massive surge of users with SSB 4). [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  14:43, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
:Also, if you don't think the wikipedia list applies to SmashWiki, give specific examples. Even in cases where this wiki has not had many cases of the example doesn't mean it won't in the future (especially since we are expecting a massive surge of users with SSB 4). [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  14:43, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
::Not even.  Your proposal said we ought to let people make second chance socks, under regulations.  The purpose of a sock is that it's identity is not known to the rest of the community.  If somebody asks permission to make a sock and reports its identity to the administration, then those admins are complicit in hiding information from the rest of the community.  That violates the purpose of [[SW:SIG]] in the sense that people are supposed to be able to identify the person who has made those comments.  By allowing people to make their own socks dependent on mod permission, you are hiding important information from the community, and violating the purpose of another Wiki policy.  By allowing people to make their own "second chance" sock independent of mod permission, you are effectively saying that users deserve second chances which is the prerogative of the community.
::You want specific examples? Okay, how about privacy, humor accounts, and security, and basically all the rest can be have cases made for them. The only legitimate use of a sock on this wiki is for administrators to test tools, in which case the identity of the sock will be obvious.  For example, if chawk needs to test some administrator tool, he will give that tool to a sock he named chawksock or some such so people know it's a legitimate admin sock.  These things just don't overlap. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 14:56, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
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