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==In competitive play==
==In competitive play==
Joker had a mixed albeit positive reception on his release. Many players praised his great movement with his horizontal and vertical speed, combo ability, as well as noting how all these traits were supplemented when Arsene was activated, granting him even greater damage and kill potential. However, many also noted how Joker had difficulty killing when Arsene was not active, given that his kill setups are unsafe on shield and quite difficult to consistently land, as well as many of his moves outright having low base knockback or knockback growth. This resulted in players labelling his kill potential as "inconsistent". As well, players also remarked base Joker's relatively low damage output per move, on top of having seemingly exploitable recoveries in both of Joker's forms (with and without his persona activated). Thus, opinions on him were divided. Smashers such as {{Sm|Tweek}} and {{Sm|CaptainZack}} held high opinions of Joker upon his release, labelling him as a potential top tier character, although others such as {{Sm|VoiD}} and {{Sm|Leffen}} regarded him as a low-high tier and a mid tier character respectively.
Joker had a mixed albeit positive reception on his release. Many players praised his great movement with his horizontal and vertical speed and combo ability, as well as noting how all these traits were supplemented when Arsene was activated, granting him even greater damage and kill potential. However, many also noted how Joker had difficulty killing when Arsene was not active, given that his kill setups are unsafe on shield and quite difficult to consistently land, as well as many of his moves outright having low base knockback or knockback growth. This resulted in players labelling his kill potential as "inconsistent". As well, players also remarked base Joker's relatively low damage output per move, on top of having seemingly exploitable recoveries in both of Joker's forms (with and without his persona activated). Thus, opinions on him were divided. Smashers such as {{Sm|Tweek}} and {{Sm|CaptainZack}} held high opinions of Joker upon his release, labelling him as a potential top tier character, although others such as {{Sm|VoiD}} and {{Sm|Leffen}} regarded him as a low-high tier and a mid tier character respectively.


However, opinions regarding Joker's attribues have progressively grown since the success that {{Sm|MKLeo}} has attained with the character. His combination of quick movement and combos, alongside the devastating power of Arsene giving him a powerful advantage state, has granted him a large following, with many high level players solo maining him or using him as a secondary. Some of them started to use their previous main less, or even dropped it in favor of him, such as {{Sm|Tweek}}, who mained Wario with a Pokémon Trainer secondary, and was considered the second best player overall in ''Ultimate'', as he started using them much less in favor of Joker. {{Sm|MkLeo}}, however, considered the best ''Ultimate'' player in the world, is the most notable example, using Joker's traits to great effect to win multiple S-Tier tournaments, while {{Sm|Zackray}} has also won one co-maining him with {{SSBU|R.O.B.}} and {{SSBU|Wolf}}, including being able to 3-stock {{Sm|Maister}}. However, some argue against Joker's strengths due to MkLeo's skill as a player allowing him to push the character extremely far, as not many players outside of Zackray have come close to his achievements with the character. Regardless, Joker is commonly considered a top tier and one of the best characters in the game, and some top players go as far to name him the single best character in ''Ultimate'' at most.
However, opinions regarding Joker's attribues have progressively grown since the success that {{Sm|MKLeo}} has attained with the character. His combination of quick movement and combos, alongside the devastating power of Arsene giving him a powerful advantage state, has granted him a large following, with many high level players solo maining him or using him as a secondary. Some of them started to use their previous main less, or even dropped it in favor of him, such as {{Sm|Tweek}}, who mained Wario with a Pokémon Trainer secondary, and was considered the second best player overall in ''Ultimate'', as he started using them much less in favor of Joker. {{Sm|MkLeo}}, however, considered the best ''Ultimate'' player in the world, is the most notable example, using Joker's traits to great effect to win multiple S-Tier tournaments, while {{Sm|Zackray}} has also won one co-maining him with {{SSBU|R.O.B.}} and {{SSBU|Wolf}}, including being able to 3-stock {{Sm|Maister}}. However, some argue against Joker's strengths due to MkLeo's skill as a player allowing him to push the character extremely far, as not many players outside of Zackray have come close to his achievements with the character. Regardless, Joker is commonly considered a top tier and one of the best characters in the game, and some top players go as far to name him the single best character in ''Ultimate'' at most.
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