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::Yeah... maybe it is too early to decide just yet. But, why not start now. (Plus, I won't remember in a few years to ask again. :P) And even though Brawl is decently balanced, AzureDrake, I don't think that tiers won't come... eventually.[[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] 16:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | ::Yeah... maybe it is too early to decide just yet. But, why not start now. (Plus, I won't remember in a few years to ask again. :P) And even though Brawl is decently balanced, AzureDrake, I don't think that tiers won't come... eventually.[[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] 16:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::However, top tier candidates: The Star Fox characters, Toon Link, Lucario, Ice Climbers (?). Just my three cents contributed. [[User:AzureDrake|AzureDrake]] 19:46, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | :::However, top tier candidates: The Star Fox characters, Toon Link, Lucario, Ice Climbers (?). Just my three cents contributed. [[User:AzureDrake|AzureDrake]] 19:46, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Yeah, Toon Link is cool. Anyone heard of the [[Quickdraw]]? It's sort of like the [[SHL]], and Toon Link is good at it. Starfox should definitely be at the top (as always), and Lucario... maybe. His characteristics can make him a dangerous fighter. Ice Climbers are cool, and now they have a [[Stall-Then-Fall]] aerial, so I don't think that their tier ranking will change much. Snake should be up there too, because of his 6 projectiles (don't believe me? Count them: Up Smash, Down Smash, Neutral B, Side B, Down B, and Up B (after he lets go)), and his use of the C4 to regain his Cypher (I call this the Cy-four :P) Now, who should be at the ''bottom''? That could be tough. Oh, and are all three of Pokemon Trainer's pokemon counted together? [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] 19:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)Runer5h | ::::Yeah, Toon Link is cool. Anyone heard of the [[Quickdraw technique|Quickdraw]]? It's sort of like the [[SHL]], and Toon Link is good at it. Starfox should definitely be at the top (as always), and Lucario... maybe. His characteristics can make him a dangerous fighter. Ice Climbers are cool, and now they have a [[Stall-Then-Fall]] aerial, so I don't think that their tier ranking will change much. Snake should be up there too, because of his 6 projectiles (don't believe me? Count them: Up Smash, Down Smash, Neutral B, Side B, Down B, and Up B (after he lets go)), and his use of the C4 to regain his Cypher (I call this the Cy-four :P) Now, who should be at the ''bottom''? That could be tough. Oh, and are all three of Pokemon Trainer's pokemon counted together? [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] 19:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)Runer5h | ||
:::::The precedent for transforming characters has been to count them separately so I would say each pokemon should be counted separated despite the timer. Personally I think the differences between tiers will be much less dramatic than it was in Melee as there seem to have been a lot of time spent balancing the characters against each other. I will even hazard a guess that half or more of the characters may even be tournament viable. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:66.112.244.172|66.112.244.172]] ([[User talk:66.112.244.172|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/66.112.244.172|contribs]]) 01:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | :::::The precedent for transforming characters has been to count them separately so I would say each pokemon should be counted separated despite the timer. Personally I think the differences between tiers will be much less dramatic than it was in Melee as there seem to have been a lot of time spent balancing the characters against each other. I will even hazard a guess that half or more of the characters may even be tournament viable. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:66.112.244.172|66.112.244.172]] ([[User talk:66.112.244.172|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/66.112.244.172|contribs]]) 01:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | ||
::::::Still, some low tiered characters would be Bowser, Yoshi, Ganondorf, and Jigglypuff (?) [[User:AzureDrake|AzureDrake]] 04:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC) | ::::::Still, some low tiered characters would be Bowser, Yoshi, Ganondorf, and Jigglypuff (?) [[User:AzureDrake|AzureDrake]] 04:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
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:You mean Buddha? You dumbass. He lived before the US even ''existed''. '''Stupid troll.''' Runer5h <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] ([[User talk:Runer5h|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Runer5h|contribs]]) 15:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | :You mean Buddha? You dumbass. He lived before the US even ''existed''. '''Stupid troll.''' Runer5h <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] ([[User talk:Runer5h|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Runer5h|contribs]]) 15:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | ||
Hey guys, I just read this section, and I completely agree. Ike may be slow, but with good anticipation, prediction, and timing, Ike can actually be a really good character. Clarinet Hawk and Semicolon, can we exchange friend codes? I'd like to play against you guys online sometime... =D -[[User:ACDCGAMER|ACDCGAMER]] ([[User talk:ACDCGAMER|talk]]) 04:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:D: Cypher. The only practical use for the projectile capabilities that I have found is in recovery. If you let go as your opponent tries to attack you, the Cypher will negate the attack.<br> | :D: Cypher. The only practical use for the projectile capabilities that I have found is in recovery. If you let go as your opponent tries to attack you, the Cypher will negate the attack.<br> | ||
2: Close Range moves. And Snake has some good ones. I'll focus on the dair, Neutral A and f-tilt, and Forward Smash. | 2: Close Range moves. And Snake has some good ones. I'll focus on the dair, Neutral A and f-tilt, and Forward Smash. | ||
:A: Neutral A and F-Tilt. Snake's neutral A is useful for hitting opponents into mines or the Up Smash. Meanwhile, the F-Tilt has such a good [[Jab Fake]] that it has its own name: the | :A: Neutral A and F-Tilt. Snake's neutral A is useful for hitting opponents into mines or the Up Smash. Meanwhile, the F-Tilt has such a good [[Jab Fake]] that it has its own name: the Knee Lock. | ||
:B: Forward Smash. Uncharged, it does 23 damage. ''WOW''. It is an awesome kill move. However, it is pretty slow - use it after your opponent does a laggy attack. | :B: Forward Smash. Uncharged, it does 23 damage. ''WOW''. It is an awesome kill move. However, it is pretty slow - use it after your opponent does a laggy attack. | ||
:C: Dair. It is awesome. 4 downwards kicks, the last of which has killing power. When next to your opponent, Short Hop and use it. It does a lot of damage if all hits connect. | :C: Dair. It is awesome. 4 downwards kicks, the last of which has killing power. When next to your opponent, Short Hop and use it. It does a lot of damage if all hits connect. |