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:Ike is middle tier. <span style="border:2px outset red;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:Blue;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 06:39, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:Ike is middle tier. <span style="border:2px outset red;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:Blue;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 06:39, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::By looking at the tier list, you can determine who wins on some matchups, but not all of them. The tier list is made by taking in a character's tournament results, pros and cons, and their matchups. For the matchups, an average is taken on a character's matchups to see much they win, and by what margin, which results into matchups having some affect on a character's tier placement. For example, Lucas, although he is on the bottom tier, beats Dedede, who is on the top tier, because he is a superior character compared to Dedede. However, he is inferior to many other high tier characters, which results into his placement on the list (top of the bottom tier). On a final note about what BNK said, how his Yoshi beat Shade's Bowser, if their skills were exactly equal (which I doubt, but let's say anyways), then Yoshi would win, due to his matchup against bowser (60-40). So, to summarize, tier placement does not affect '''all''' matchups. -''[[User:Masq|<span style="color:green">Masq</span>]]'' <small>('''[[User talk:Masq|t]]'''/''[[Special:Contributions/Masq|c]]''/'''[[Special:Editcount/Masq|e]]''')</small> 10:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::By looking at the tier list, you can determine who wins on some matchups, but not all of them. The tier list is made by taking in a character's tournament results, pros and cons, and their matchups. For the matchups, an average is taken on a character's matchups to see much they win, and by what margin, which results into matchups having some affect on a character's tier placement. For example, Lucas, although he is on the bottom tier, beats Dedede, who is on the top tier, because he is a superior character compared to Dedede. However, he is inferior to many other high tier characters, which results into his placement on the list (top of the bottom tier). On a final note about what BNK said, how his Yoshi beat Shade's Bowser, if their skills were exactly equal (which I doubt, but let's say anyways), then Yoshi would win, due to his matchup against bowser (60-40). So, to summarize, tier placement does not affect '''all''' matchups. -''[[User:Masq|<span style="color:green">Masq</span>]]'' <small>('''[[User talk:Masq|t]]'''/''[[Special:Contributions/Masq|c]]''/'''[[Special:Editcount/Masq|e]]''')</small> 10:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You should probably stop doubting people and actually try to fight others. Bowser '''is not''' a bad match-up for '''ever character''' just because he's the largest target in the game. Lucas does '''not''' beat Dedede, and it doesn't take much skill to beat Lucas '''with''' Dedede. What you're saying is that every "small" character in Brawl would automatically destroy a larger character, completely disregarding the tier placement. Falco, not a heavyweight, but much larger than Pikachu, is a good match-up against him. His reflector is disjointed, meaning it can reflect Pikachu's Thunder attack with ease, and that's alot of damage for Pika. Get your facts straight, dude. <span style="border:2px outset red;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:Blue;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 11:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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