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|subtitle = ''Pokémon''
|subtitle = ''Pokémon''
|name = Pokémon Stadium 2
|name = Pokémon Stadium 2
|image = {{tabber|title1=Ultimate|tab1=[[File:SSBU-Pokémon Stadium 2.png|300px]]|title2=Wii U|tab2=[[File:SSB4UPokemonStadium2.jpg|300px]]|title3=Brawl|tab3=[[File:Stadium2.jpg|300px]]}}
|image = {{tabber|title1=Ultimate|content1=[[File:SSBU-Pokémon Stadium 2.png|300px]]|title2=Wii U|content2=[[File:SSB4UPokemonStadium2.jpg|300px]]|title3=Brawl|content3=[[File:Stadium2.jpg|300px]]}}
|caption = [[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|50px|class=invert]]<br>Pokémon Stadium 2 across the series.
|caption = [[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|50px|class=invert]]<br>Pokémon Stadium 2 across the series.
|universe = {{uv|Pokémon}}
|universe = {{uv|Pokémon}}
|games = ''[[Brawl]]''<br>''[[SSB4]]'' ([[SSB4-U|Wii U]])<br>''[[Ultimate]]''
|games = ''[[Brawl]]''<br>''[[SSB4]]'' ([[SSB4-U|Wii U]])<br>''[[Ultimate]]''
|hometo = '''Brawl:'''<br>{{SSBB|Pikachu}}<br>{{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}<br>{{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} ({{SSBB|Squirtle}}/{{SSBB|Ivysaur}}/{{SSBB|Charizard}})<br>{{SSBB|Lucario}}<br>'''SSB4:'''<br>{{SSB4|Pikachu}}<br>{{SSB4|Jigglypuff}}<br>{{SSB4|Charizard}}<br>{{SSB4|Lucario}}<br>{{SSB4|Greninja}}<br>{{SSB4|Mewtwo}} (DLC)<br>'''Ultimate:'''<br>{{SSBU|Pikachu}}<br>{{SSBU|Jigglypuff}}<br>{{SSBU|Pichu}}<br>{{SSBU|Mewtwo}}<br>{{SSBU|Pokémon Trainer}} ({{SSBU|Squirtle}}/{{SSBU|Ivysaur}}/{{SSBU|Charizard}})<br>{{SSBU|Lucario}}<br>{{SSBU|Greninja}}<br>{{SSBU|Incineroar}}
|availability = [[Starter stage|Starter]] (''Brawl'' and ''Ultimate'')<br>[[Unlockable stage|Unlockable]] (''SSB4'')
|availability = [[Starter stage|Starter]] (''Brawl'' and ''Ultimate'')<br>[[Unlockable stage|Unlockable]] (''SSB4'')
|unlockcriteria = Clear the [[When Lightning Strikes]] event.
|unlockcriteria = Clear the [[When Lightning Strikes]] event.
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==Stage overview==
==Stage overview==
===General overview===
===General overview===
[[File:SSBU-Lucas vs Zelda vs Samus Aran vs Marth.PNG|thumb|left|{{SSBU|Lucas}}, {{SSBU|Zelda}}, {{SSBU|Samus}}, and {{SSBU|Marth}} fighting in the normal version of the stage with the [[Final Smash Meter]] equipped]]
Overall, this stage works very similarly to ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''{{'}}s [[Pokémon Stadium]]: it switches from a basic version to type-inspired transformations. The layout of the basic version is extremely similar to the ''Melee'' version, with a main platform with a solid pillar underneath and two floating [[soft platform]]s on the sides. The background features a crowd, much farther away than the one in the original Pokémon Stadium, and a jumbotron which, like the one in Pokémon Stadium, displays either the battle, a symbol denoting the upcoming transformation, or the current standings of each fighter and the [[Match timer|time]] remaining.
Overall, this stage works very similarly to ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''{{'}}s [[Pokémon Stadium]]: it switches from a basic version to type-inspired transformations. The layout of the basic version is extremely similar to the ''Melee'' version, with a main platform with a solid pillar underneath and two floating [[soft platform]]s on the sides. The background features a crowd, much farther away than the one in the original Pokémon Stadium, and a jumbotron which, like the one in Pokémon Stadium, displays either the battle, a symbol denoting the upcoming transformation, or the current standings of each fighter and the [[Match timer|time]] remaining.


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==Origin==
==Origin==
[[File:PokemonStadiumN64.png|thumb|left|200px|A battle in the game ''Pokémon Stadium''. Note the Poké Ball logo in the center and the crowd watching the battle.]]
[[File:PokemonStadiumN64.png|thumb|left|A battle in the game ''Pokémon Stadium''. Note the Poké Ball logo in the center and the crowd watching the battle.]]


Like its [[Pokémon Stadium|predecessor]], this stage seems to be based on the arenas from the ''[[bulbapedia:Pokémon Stadium series|Pokémon Stadium]]'' series. Its name could be a reference to the game ''Pokémon Stadium 2'' (either [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Stadium (English)|Japanese]] or [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Stadium 2|international]]) for the [[Nintendo 64]].
Like its [[Pokémon Stadium|predecessor]], this stage seems to be based on the arenas from the ''[[bulbapedia:Pokémon Stadium series|Pokémon Stadium]]'' series. Its name could be a reference to the game ''Pokémon Stadium 2'' (either [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Stadium (English)|Japanese]] or [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Stadium 2|international]]) for the [[Nintendo 64]].
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The electric transformation's mechanical appearance could be a reference to the recurring {{s|bulbapedia|Power Plant}} setting in the series, where [[Magnemite]], {{iw|bulbapedia|Magneton|Pokémon}} and {{iw|bulbapedia|Electabuzz|Pokémon}} (the previous forms of Magnezone and Electivire) can be often encountered.
The electric transformation's mechanical appearance could be a reference to the recurring {{s|bulbapedia|Power Plant}} setting in the series, where [[Magnemite]], {{iw|bulbapedia|Magneton|Pokémon}} and {{iw|bulbapedia|Electabuzz|Pokémon}} (the previous forms of Magnezone and Electivire) can be often encountered.
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Indigo Plateau Conference Grass Field.png| The Grass Field in the ''anime''.
Indigo Plateau Conference Rock Field.png|The Rock Field in the ''anime''.
Valley Windworks Gen 4.png| {{iw|bulbapedia|Valley Windworks}} in ''[[bulbapedia:Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond/Pearl]]/[[bulbapedia:Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum]]''.
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Regardless, Pokémon Stadium 2 remains often banned due to the very specific ways in which players have to adjust to the disruptive nature of transformations.
Regardless, Pokémon Stadium 2 remains often banned due to the very specific ways in which players have to adjust to the disruptive nature of transformations.


===''SSB4''===
===''Smash 4''===
Pokémon Stadium 2's physics changes have been seen as detrimental to the flow of the match and the stage is banned in ''Smash 4''.
Pokémon Stadium 2's transformations are still seen as disruptive as they were in ''Brawl'', though due to the competitive community in ''Smash 4'' becoming a lot more conservative with stage legality, it never saw real use as a legal stage nor contentious debate about it anywhere unlike it did in ''Brawl''.


===''Ultimate''===
===''Ultimate''===
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==Update history==
==Update history==
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-u}} 1.0.2'''
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-u}} 1.0.2'''
*Added 8-player mode version of the stage and its Ω form.
*{{change|Added 8-player mode version of the stage and its Ω form. For performance reasons, the screen that normally shows battle information is blank while in this mode.}}


'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|4.0.0}}'''
'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|4.0.0}}'''
*The "Current Leader" segment now displays the names of all leading characters, much like in [[Pokémon Stadium]].
*{{change|The "Current Leader" segment now displays the names of all leading characters, much like in [[Pokémon Stadium]].}}


==Gallery==
==Gallery==
===''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''===
<gallery>
BetaStadiumScreen.jpg|Notice how the jumbotron behind Pokémon Stadium 2 is blank, while this never happens during normal gameplay in the final version.
Brawl Pokemon Change.jpg|{{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} swapping his Pokémon.
vinewhip.jpg|{{SSBB|Ivysaur}} [[Vine Whip]] used as a tether recovery
Bullet Seed.jpg|{{SSBB|Ivysaur}} using [[Bullet Seed]].
</gallery>
===''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''===
===''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''===
<gallery>
<gallery>
SSBUWebsiteLucario3.jpg|{{SSBU|Lucario}} attacking {{SSBU|Greninja}} on the stage.
PokémonStadium2UltimateJumbotron.jpg|The stadium's jumbotron, showing the stage layout and the fighters competing in the match.
PokémonStadium2UltimateJumbotron.jpg|The stadium's jumbotron, showing the stage layout and the fighters competing in the match.
</gallery>
</gallery>
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*In ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'', if the jumbotron focuses on a character and the game is paused, the jumbotron will try to remain focused on that character if the pause camera is moved around.
*In ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'', if the jumbotron focuses on a character and the game is paused, the jumbotron will try to remain focused on that character if the pause camera is moved around.
**If the pause camera is angled such that the "back" of it is towards the focused character and the camera is zoomed in, the jumbotron's image will be rotated 180 degrees and some of the pixels will be stretched to the edge of the screen. This also occurs on Pokémon Stadium.
**If the pause camera is angled such that the "back" of it is towards the focused character and the camera is zoomed in, the jumbotron's image will be rotated 180 degrees and some of the pixels will be stretched to the edge of the screen. This also occurs on Pokémon Stadium.
*This stage shares its name with the Pokémon game [[bulbapedia:Pokémon Stadium 2|''Pokémon Stadium 2'']].


===''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''===
===''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''===
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*In the original [[Smash Bros DOJO!!|Dojo]] screenshot of the Flying element of the stage, Drifloon and Hoppip are shown much farther away than in the final version of of the game.
*In the original [[Smash Bros DOJO!!|Dojo]] screenshot of the Flying element of the stage, Drifloon and Hoppip are shown much farther away than in the final version of of the game.
*If the player looks at the jumbotron looking through {{SSBB|Luigi}}'s [[Negative Zone]], the true colors can be seen there due to the double negative effects.
*If the player looks at the jumbotron looking through {{SSBB|Luigi}}'s [[Negative Zone]], the true colors can be seen there due to the double negative effects.
**This can also happen if a hack is used to perform Double Final Smashes.
*If {{SSBB|Zero Suit Samus}} is currently on the stage, the jumbotron will display her name as "Samus" instead of "Zero Suit Samus". This also happens in [[Pokémon Stadium]] and [[PictoChat]].
*If {{SSBB|Zero Suit Samus}} is currently on the stage, the jumbotron will display her name as "Samus" instead of "Zero Suit Samus". This also happens in [[Pokémon Stadium]] and [[PictoChat]].


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===''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''===
===''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''===
*When playing a game of [[Squad Strike]], the names of the characters on the jumbotron will not change until it updates itself. This also happens on [[Pokémon Stadium]].
*When playing a game of [[Squad Strike]] on this stage or [[Pokémon Stadium]], the names of the characters on the jumbotron will not change until it updates itself. This also happens when either adding more CPU opponents in [[Training Mode]] or swapping between {{SSBU|Pyra}} and {{SSBU|Mythra}}. This is unlike ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', where the jumbotron immediately updated whenever [[Zelda]] and [[Sheik]] transformed or [[Pokémon Trainer]] [[Pokémon Change|changed Pokémon]].
**This also happens when either adding more CPU opponents in [[Training Mode]] or swapping between {{SSBU|Pyra}} and {{SSBU|Mythra}}. This is unlike ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'' where the jumbotron updated whenever [[Zelda]] and [[Sheik]] transformed or [[Pokémon Trainer]] [[Pokémon Change|changed Pokémon]].
**A similar effect also happens on the [[Pokémon Multi Battle!]] event in {{forwiiu}}.
*On the jumbotron, the names of all the characters on either the "Current Stage" or "Current Leader" segments matches the color of their player slot.
*On the jumbotron, the names of all the characters on either the "Current Stage" or "Current Leader" segments matches the color of their player slot.
**When playing in a [[Team Battle]], the jumbotron displays all character names in the order of red, blue, green, and yellow in column format.
**When playing in a [[Team Battle]], the jumbotron displays all character names in the order of red, blue, green, and yellow in column format.
*In [[Team Battle]]s, the jumbotron only displays the names of all characters with the highest score/stock count rather than the winning team.
*In [[Team Battle]]s, the jumbotron only displays the names of all characters with the highest score/stock count rather than the winning team.
*In either a [[Stock]] or [[Stamina Mode|Stamina]] match, if a player slot is skipped, the jumbotron sometimes displays the wrong player number if a player loses their last life. For example, in a 3-player Smash involving P2, P3 and P4, if Player 2 gets defeated, the jumbotron displays "Player 1 Defeated" despite player 1 not being present.
*In either a [[Stock]] or [[Stamina Mode|Stamina]] match, if a player slot is skipped, the jumbotron sometimes displays the wrong player number if a player loses their last life. For example, in a 3-player Smash involving P2, P3 and P4, if Player 2 gets defeated, the jumbotron displays "Player 1 Defeated" despite Player 1 not being present.
*Oddly, when playing this stage in either Battlefield or Ω form, the jumbotron does not display the starting/final countdown of the match, the "GO!" text at the start of the match, text showcasing which player has been eliminated (e.g. "Player 2 Defeated"), or text at the end of the match (e.g. "TIME", "GAME", etc.). This oddity is not present in [[Pokémon Stadium]].
*When playing this stage in either Battlefield or Ω form, the jumbotron does not display the starting/final countdown of the match, the "GO!" text at the start of the match, text showcasing which player has been eliminated (e.g. "Player 2 Defeated"), nor text at the end of the match (e.g. "TIME", "GAME", etc.). This oddity is not present in [[Pokémon Stadium]].
*The following [[Assist Trophies]] can only appear on the Battlefield and Omega forms of this stage: [[Andross]], [[Kapp'n]], and the [[Squid Sisters]]. Additionally, [[Marshadow]] can only be summoned on the stage's Battlefield and Omega forms.
* Neither the main or alternate track are from ''Brawl'', making this one of the few stages where neither song is from its ''Smash Bros.'' game of origin.
**[[Nikki]] cannot be summoned on this stage due to the dark background obscuring her drawings.
*The following [[Assist Trophies]] can only appear on the Battlefield and Omega forms of this stage: [[Andross]], [[Kapp'n]], and the [[Squid Sisters]]. [[Nikki]] cannot be summoned at all on this stage likely due to the dark background obscuring her drawings. Additionally, [[Marshadow]] can only be summoned here on the stage's Battlefield and Omega forms.


==External links==
==External links==
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