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== About the Scrub Rush page == | == About the Scrub Rush page == | ||
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I list the second one because of the fact that people are not allowed to talk about it ( https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/6sgopq/goode_with_the_goods_at_super_smash_con_for_pm/ ), but I leave the first option open because of what we did for the first 2 SSCs. | I list the second one because of the fact that people are not allowed to talk about it ( https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/6sgopq/goode_with_the_goods_at_super_smash_con_for_pm/ ), but I leave the first option open because of what we did for the first 2 SSCs. | ||
In any case, the event in of itself is probably significant enough to warrant its own page if needed, given that {{Sm|Gallo}}, {{Sm|Switch}}, {{Sm|HyperFlame}}, {{Sm|BP}}, and more will be attending and it will most likely break 100 entrants. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Diamond444|Diamond444]] ([[User talk:Diamond444|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Diamond444|contribs]]) 22:31, 11 August | In any case, the event in of itself is probably significant enough to warrant its own page if needed, given that {{Sm|Gallo}}, {{Sm|Switch}}, {{Sm|HyperFlame}}, {{Sm|BP}}, and more will be attending and it will most likely break 100 entrants. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Diamond444|Diamond444]] ([[User talk:Diamond444|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Diamond444|contribs]]) 22:31, 11 August 2017 (EST)</small> | ||
:Hmm...well first off, please remember to sign your comments. Second, considering the one at SSC 2016 is still on the page despite having 134 entrants, I'd say keep it listed as a side event, but maybe have a note somewhere on the article explaining the circumstances behind the PM tournament. If there's ever a problem, we can easily split it into its own article later. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:40, 11 August 2017 (EDT) | :Hmm...well first off, please remember to sign your comments. Second, considering the one at SSC 2016 is still on the page despite having 134 entrants, I'd say keep it listed as a side event, but maybe have a note somewhere on the article explaining the circumstances behind the PM tournament. If there's ever a problem, we can easily split it into its own article later. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:40, 11 August 2017 (EDT) | ||
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== about Smasher:supa == | == about Smasher:supa == | ||
supa (lowercase) didn't attend Little Big House 2 nor plays smash for Wii U. There is another Supa in michigan but they are two completely different people. That is why I removed the tournament results. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Dragnalus|Dragnalus]] ([[User talk:Dragnalus|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dragnalus|contribs]]) 23:26, 4 September | supa (lowercase) didn't attend Little Big House 2 nor plays smash for Wii U. There is another Supa in michigan but they are two completely different people. That is why I removed the tournament results. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Dragnalus|Dragnalus]] ([[User talk:Dragnalus|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dragnalus|contribs]]) 23:26, 4 September 2017 (EST)</small> | ||
:For one thing, please remember to sign your comments (you can see how at the top of edit boxes on talk pages). Second, do you have any further proof that they're different people? I mainly ask this because the original person who created the article does seem to have a respectable reputation for Smash 64 articles, so I'm trying to see whether or not the inclusion of that result was an honest mistake, and because it's a little easy to claim something like that without something to back it up. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:30, 4 September 2017 (EDT) | :For one thing, please remember to sign your comments (you can see how at the top of edit boxes on talk pages). Second, do you have any further proof that they're different people? I mainly ask this because the original person who created the article does seem to have a respectable reputation for Smash 64 articles, so I'm trying to see whether or not the inclusion of that result was an honest mistake, and because it's a little easy to claim something like that without something to back it up. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:30, 4 September 2017 (EDT) | ||
::To clarify, I am willing to believe you, but if you have any extra evidence, that'd be of great help in case anyone were to try to make later claims in the future. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:34, 4 September 2017 (EDT) | ::To clarify, I am willing to believe you, but if you have any extra evidence, that'd be of great help in case anyone were to try to make later claims in the future. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:34, 4 September 2017 (EDT) | ||
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== Edit this page == | == Edit this page == | ||
This time around, I actually have the links to tournament placings, etc. But I don't know where to submit them. Thanks! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:B3mccowan1|B3mccowan1]] ([[User talk:B3mccowan1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/B3mccowan1|contribs]]) 01:40, 9 October | This time around, I actually have the links to tournament placings, etc. But I don't know where to submit them. Thanks! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:B3mccowan1|B3mccowan1]] ([[User talk:B3mccowan1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/B3mccowan1|contribs]]) 01:40, 9 October 2017 (EST)</small> | ||
:If you wanna remake the article again with all the stuff we need for it to be passable, [[SW:SMASHER|this policy]] is your best friend. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:43, 8 October 2017 (EDT) | :If you wanna remake the article again with all the stuff we need for it to be passable, [[SW:SMASHER|this policy]] is your best friend. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:43, 8 October 2017 (EDT) | ||
Is that better? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:B3mccowan1|B3mccowan1]] ([[User talk:B3mccowan1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/B3mccowan1|contribs]]) 02:41, 9 October 2017 (EST)</small> | Is that better? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:B3mccowan1|B3mccowan1]] ([[User talk:B3mccowan1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/B3mccowan1|contribs]]) 02:41, 9 October 2017 (EST)</small> | ||
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:Taken care of. Kept the playstyle one, killed the trivia one. <span style="font-family:Chiller;font-size:18px;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #000">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#d50">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSigHalloween.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#d50">King</span>]]'''</span> 18:00, 9 October 2017 (EDT) | :Taken care of. Kept the playstyle one, killed the trivia one. <span style="font-family:Chiller;font-size:18px;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #000">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#d50">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSigHalloween.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#d50">King</span>]]'''</span> 18:00, 9 October 2017 (EDT) | ||
:As a general rule of thumb, if a trivia point is or can be covered in the main article, then it should be put in the main article and removed from trivia. It’s as simple as that. Good question. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the Internets go! :3''']]</span> 19:07, 9 October 2017 (EDT) | :As a general rule of thumb, if a trivia point is or can be covered in the main article, then it should be put in the main article and removed from trivia. It’s as simple as that. Good question. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the Internets go! :3''']]</span> 19:07, 9 October 2017 (EDT) | ||
another question regarding unofficial and fan-made terms: should the pages for community-named moves and plays like ''Marthritis'' and ''scarjump'' or ''Mangle'' be added, or are they just arbitrary trivia? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Lasagna|Lasagna]] ([[User talk:Lasagna|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lasagna|contribs]]) 23:18, 9 October | another question regarding unofficial and fan-made terms: should the pages for community-named moves and plays like ''Marthritis'' and ''scarjump'' or ''Mangle'' be added, or are they just arbitrary trivia? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Lasagna|Lasagna]] ([[User talk:Lasagna|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lasagna|contribs]]) 23:18, 9 October 2017 (EST)</small> | ||
:We generally don't cover unofficial and fanmade terms unless they're widely known and popular, such as the [[Scar Jump]]. Anything lesser than that but still worth noting should just be trivia on the appropriate articles. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:09, 10 October 2017 (EDT) | :We generally don't cover unofficial and fanmade terms unless they're widely known and popular, such as the [[Scar Jump]]. Anything lesser than that but still worth noting should just be trivia on the appropriate articles. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:09, 10 October 2017 (EDT) | ||
::You mean inappropriate information? '''[[User:Music Video 123|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#C24643">Music Video 123</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Music Video 123|talk]]) 08:44, 14 October 2017 (EDT) | ::You mean inappropriate information? '''[[User:Music Video 123|<span style="font-family:serif;color:#C24643">Music Video 123</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Music Video 123|talk]]) 08:44, 14 October 2017 (EDT) | ||
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:You do. It's 10 edits and 7 days to be autoconfirmed. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:12, 18 February 2019 (EST) | :You do. It's 10 edits and 7 days to be autoconfirmed. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:12, 18 February 2019 (EST) | ||
::Ok, thanks. [[User:Super Smash Mario|Super Smash Mario]] ([[User talk:Super Smash Mario|talk]]) 21:52, 18 February 2019 (EST) | ::Ok, thanks. [[User:Super Smash Mario|Super Smash Mario]] ([[User talk:Super Smash Mario|talk]]) 21:52, 18 February 2019 (EST) | ||
== Gideon == | |||
Hello. I do not have an account here at the moment. Might make one at a later time. Im doing some research on the history of the smash community, specifically its foundes and what they are doing now for a project of mine. I saw that you contributed the picture used for Gideon (founder of Smashboards and this very wiki) on this wiki's article on him. And you stated that it came from his linkedin profile. I was wondering if you knew if he still has or uses that profile. I've searched everywhere. I haven't found much. Except that he seems to be a doctor(?). I would appreciate hearing back from you. | |||
== Simon not appearing in an M-rated game... == | |||
Regarding this edit [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Joker&diff=1374177&oldid=1374175|here]: Isn't there a version of Simon Belmont that appears in ''Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate'' (an M-rated game)? https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Simon_Belmont_(Lords_of_Shadow) | |||
Or does he not count since the ''Lords of Shadow'' series is set in a different timeline than the main series? [[User:SuperSmashTurtles|SuperSmashTurtles]] ([[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|talk]]) 14:17, February 17, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Assistance == | |||
<s>I may need some assistance with merging the bullet bill page together since users agree it should be merged. It won't me remove "enemy" from the title when I try to move the page.</s>Also for future references when merging pages do the respective talk pages also get merged? [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 00:50, April 6, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Woah you're quick nevermind my first question. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 00:51, April 6, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Ye I'm just watching a movie tonight so I'm not doing much. Talk pages I haven't ever really seen get merged, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to merge them if you wanted to do that. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:52, April 6, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::OK thanks I'll keep that in mind. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 01:02, April 6, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Advice on handling disputes == | |||
Here's something I've been wanting to ask someone to help with, now be warned this might be a bit long: Dispute handling is something I always felt I needed to improve on. Now seeing how this is something SmashWiki looks for in admins I felt the best would be to ask one how to handle them, and with me being an admin on WikiBound this is something I need to be good at. Now for me the best way for me to learn is by example. To be fair I feel I haven't been in any big disbutes yet so I'll use the biggest one I've been in for an example: [[Template talk:Symbol]]. | |||
*First I just decided to bluntly state that it was decided we're not changing the symbol, thinking they'll figure out that this discussion is long over. That didn't work. | |||
*Later I tried a different approach and decided to make it seem like I myself am open to changing it and even gave my personal opinions on each symbol. I figured they'll be more likely to not immediately shoot me down if I at least make it seem like I'm open to having it change, and also believe each symbol has some validity to be used. And that didn't work either. | |||
So in the end I figured the best way for me to learn is if you tell me if there were any parts I did well, and the parts I could've done better. Thanks for your time. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 07:20, April 7, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:You definitely have the foundation in place. The symbol debate is an odd case so using that example wouldn't entirely benefit either of us, but in most cases yes, if a discussion has already been turned down, you can shoot it down and explain why it's not happening. However, if a sufficient amount of time had passed, opinions can change wildly. For example, we used to have a category for female smashers due to how few there were in the scene, and that was constantly debated back and forth on whether or not we were keeping it. I think it was ultimately decided to do away with it, though I wasn't here for that discussion. As for your latter approach, that generally is the next best thing to do in a debate, and definitely what you wanna start with in most cases. As an admin, unless ''you're'' the one who started the debate, it's usually best to go in as a neutral party in order to attempt to find a compromise everyone can agree on. Lastly, while admins and bureaucrats aren't to be considered kings on SmashWiki, we still have the ability to shut something down should we feel it necessary for any reason. | |||
:tl;dr, you have a good foundation for dispute handling and the best qualities I recommend focusing on are patience, neutrality, and, as someone who's been guilty of this myself in the past, keeping your emotions in check, no matter how heated the dispute becomes. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 10:39, April 7, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Alright, thanks for the advice. I am glad to see I am on the right track, and keeping a neutral tone is actually something I try to do at the start so I can see what most people think first, and then I try to find the best solution out of them (though the symbol debate was a different case due to the past discussions). For patience that definitely shouldn't be a problem for me since I'm often known for being a patient individual in real life, I don't let my emotions take over because that will do more harm than good. And actually adminship here is something I have considered before, I just need to make sure I'm ready to take the position before requesting, '''EDIT''': and if I eventually do I will give this a mention. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 11:32, April 7, 2020 (EDT) | |||