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I was wondering; why don't we make the chart for the characters in the Ultimate demo and the ones that were not, but had them shown? I just wanted to ask before I did anything. [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px|link=User:SonicSpeed48]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="navyblue">''Speed'''''48'''</font>]] 22:20, 15 September 2018 (EDT) | I was wondering; why don't we make the chart for the characters in the Ultimate demo and the ones that were not, but had them shown? I just wanted to ask before I did anything. [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px|link=User:SonicSpeed48]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="navyblue">''Speed'''''48'''</font>]] 22:20, 15 September 2018 (EDT) | ||
== GIF or | == GIF or WebM == | ||
After working on the gifs for ''Ultimate'' I noticed that the wiki supports webm. After playing with some ffmpeg settings I was able to get a webm that is 60 fps instead of 15 fps and with a filesize of 839 KB instead of 3.92 MB, an 80% reduction with 4 times the frame rate ([https://imgur.com/a/K3V6iga Mii Gunner example] compared to [[:File:GunnerOnScreenAppearanceSSBU.gif]], imgur turns it into an mp4 but it doesn't change much). Would this be something to consider doing? With 82 gifs for ''Ultimate'' at about 4 MB each, that is over 300 MB to load. The only complication I can think of (other than effort) would be compatibility issues with older browsers. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 12:54, May 27, 2020 (EDT) | After working on the gifs for ''Ultimate'' I noticed that the wiki supports webm. After playing with some ffmpeg settings I was able to get a webm that is 60 fps instead of 15 fps and with a filesize of 839 KB instead of 3.92 MB, an 80% reduction with 4 times the frame rate ([https://imgur.com/a/K3V6iga Mii Gunner example] compared to [[:File:GunnerOnScreenAppearanceSSBU.gif]], imgur turns it into an mp4 but it doesn't change much). Would this be something to consider doing? With 82 gifs for ''Ultimate'' at about 4 MB each, that is over 300 MB to load. The only complication I can think of (other than effort) would be compatibility issues with older browsers. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 12:54, May 27, 2020 (EDT) | ||
:On my user page I've uploaded a WebM version of Mii Gunner's appearance to compare it to the GIF version. Unfortunately the wiki doesn't support VP9 and I've had to use VP8, the latter having wider browser support but doesn't encode as efficiently, leading to a slightly larger size than stated above. I've listed some pros and cons of the format as well but I will let others judge if it is worth it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:32, July 12, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Creation of subpages == | == Creation of subpages == | ||
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Only consequence from this would be that ''Melee'' would be the only game left without a page, but considering all the characters have the same entrance in that game, I consider it not big of a loss it just be given its own section in the article, unless someone was willing to record all the characters entrances from there. [[User:DigitalHazard|DigitalHazard]] ([[User talk:DigitalHazard|talk]]) 01:50, June 30, 2020 (CST) | Only consequence from this would be that ''Melee'' would be the only game left without a page, but considering all the characters have the same entrance in that game, I consider it not big of a loss it just be given its own section in the article, unless someone was willing to record all the characters entrances from there. [[User:DigitalHazard|DigitalHazard]] ([[User talk:DigitalHazard|talk]]) 01:50, June 30, 2020 (CST) | ||
:I'll '''support''' splitting by game. I'm having a little trouble understanding your disagreement with the above discussion. Do you mind expanding on it a bit? --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 16:43, July 1, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Looking back at it, I admit it was some confusion and misinterpretation from my part due to the example you provided being a mp4 via imgur, which tends to compress gifs into lower quality videos. [[User:DigitalHazard|DigitalHazard]] ([[User talk:DigitalHazard|talk]]) 11:58, July 4, 2020 (CST) | |||
:'''Support''' for consistency with the rest of the wiki, though I also wouldn't mind if the page instead received sections for each character akin to the [[alternate costume]] pages. IDK how the wiki handles image loading in folded sections, but it may help the problem w/o requiring a split. [[User:B2jammer|b2jammer]] ([[User talk:B2jammer|talk]]) 20:22, July 4, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::I support a split per game, and also support switching to webms if possible; in my mind, the ideal method would be to re-record each one with webm rather than convert the existing gifs, which might take a while but would result in higher quality. The two combined would probably save a lot of space. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 20:29, July 4, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::Getting the webms for Ultimate will be easy since I still have the original video files. The other games were done by other people (meaning they would need to be re-captured), but I could do 4 and Brawl if there is enough demand. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:46, July 4, 2020 (EDT) | |||