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here's a video of a glitch involving Kirby's hand to be on fire.
here's a video of a glitch involving Kirby's hand to be on fire.


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[[User:Smashworker101|Smashworker101]] ([[User talk:Smashworker101|talk]]) 22:25, 15 February 2015 (EST)
[[User:Smashworker101|Smashworker101]] ([[User talk:Smashworker101|talk]]) 22:25, 15 February 2015 (EST)
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:I don't want to simply remove protection without talking it out first, but I agree that this protection was wrong. Clearly stated in [[SW:PROTECT]] is that we as admins are not to protect pages simply to get our way, which is essentially what's happening here. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:55, 27 January 2016 (EST)
:I don't want to simply remove protection without talking it out first, but I agree that this protection was wrong. Clearly stated in [[SW:PROTECT]] is that we as admins are not to protect pages simply to get our way, which is essentially what's happening here. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:55, 27 January 2016 (EST)
::After taking a peek at the history of this page...I retract that statement, protection was entirely necessary in that case. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:07, 27 January 2016 (EST)
::After taking a peek at the history of this page...I retract that statement, protection was entirely necessary in that case. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:07, 27 January 2016 (EST)
:::I was going more by "Do not make the common mistake of protecting pages unnecessarily. For example, do not protect a page simply because it is the Main Page, or because it got vandalized once." While not vandalism, there was only one edit war that had been long resolved when Miles protected it. It's one thing to protect it when it's only one edit war mid-edit war, but it was over. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  21:23, 27 January 2016 (EST)
== Rename ==
I know this topic has been [[#Move|discussed before]] (and [[#Move (2)|nearly was discussed again]]), I would like to point out that PAL ''Ultimate'' now refers to this move as "Hammer Flip" alongside the NTSC version. Therefore, in tandem with renaming [[Grand Star|other]] [[Fire Arrow|pages]] to match their most recent name, I would like to propose moving this page to "Hammer Flip" as well. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 13:40, June 25, 2019 (EDT)
:If the PAL version changed the name too, then yes, we should move this page to Hammer Flip. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 13:41, June 25, 2019 (EDT)
:'''Support''' for reasons mentioned above. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 13:43, June 25, 2019 (EDT)
::Bumping - anyone have any objections to this? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:01, June 28, 2019 (EDT)
'''Oppose''', I would much prefer a split to a move. Hammer has been the name for just as long has hammer flip has, and there are significant functional differences. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:14, June 30, 2019 (EDT)
Bumping. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 00:32, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
'''Split''', into "Hammer (move)" and "Hammer Flip". I think this will make things easier to work with. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Rainbow 10:53, July 6, 2019 (EDT)
:I'm also for this, it's better than choosing one over the other. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:43, July 6, 2019 (EDT)
::After seeing Alex’s suggestion, change my vote to a split instead of a rename. I agree that it’ll be easier to work with. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 15:43, July 8, 2019 (EDT)
I'm in favor of a split, but I also think that the Melee/Brawl move should be moved to simply [[Hammer]], to be consistent with [[Boomerang]]. [[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 02:58, July 18, 2019 (EDT)
:Similarly to [[Boomerang]] and [[Boomerang (item)]]? I support a '''split''' like that. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:01, November 26, 2019 (EST)
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