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 :I dunno... I mean, he's not being released for use in Smash Bros., and unlike Gold/Silver Mario in MP10 will probably have no special function... But he would use a new pose if he wasn't... It could go either way. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:26, 15 November 2015 (EST)
 :Depends on the box. That way, we'll know for sure if it's part of the Smash series. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #7cfc00;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 16:28, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+::It doesn't ''have'' a box. It only comes with the game. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:29, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+:::Every bundle amiibo so far has had a box. I say we leave it for now as there's too much similar between it and the other Smash amiibo. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 16:32, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+:::Hmmm yeah this is trickier than I thought. I mean, if it has a Smash base then it's just a Mega Man Smash amiibo with no special function, and a mere change of aesthetics. Maybe it could be mentioned that there's a gold Mega Man amiibo and add a photo or something. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 16:34, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+::::I guess we could make an "other" section just for it... <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:35, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+::::Not sure, I mean there's the Legacy Collection mention in the "Other series of amiibo compatible with Super Smash Bros." section. That's probably all that's necessary. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 16:37, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+:::::Hmm... I'd like more input before removing it all together, but I think that an other section could work. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 16:41, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+:::Do we know with certainty it has the Smash base? Because it's black, but the top should have a gold smash logo but I don't see it in any pictures. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 16:39, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+::::I thought they had an upwards view of it in the direct, let me go check that. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 16:41, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+::::Also on the official Ninty site it doesn't list it as [http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo/line-up any series]. Same with Wolf Link.
+::::Yeah there's no golden smash logo at the top of the base to be seen, so it's not certain if it's part of the Smash series or not. It'll probably stand on its own or something. So it belongs in the "other series" section. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 16:50, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+::::Curiously, it's only in the NA direct, the Japan direct doesn't even mention Mega Man Legacy Collection... And no, there's no alternative view. So, with all that said, I'd say to move it to an "other" section or something. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 16:51, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+::::Yeah '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 16:53, 15 November 2015 (EST)
+Should I try to make a gold head icon for it, or should we wait. Also, what about the Silver and Gold Mario. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 10:30, 16 November 2015 (EST)
+:Editing head icons is a no-no; there was an unpleasant debate over that a while ago, which ended in the page just having a note saying all colours work the same. [[User:Zyrac|Zyrac]] ([[User talk:Zyrac|talk]]) 10:38, 16 November 2015 (EST)
+[https://sickr.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/mega-man-amiib.jpg?w=276&h=276&crop=1 Images have surfaced], and it does have the golden Smash base. The official Nintendo site still doesn't list it as a Smash amiibo, however. -[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 08:51, 18 February 2016 (EST)
+== "Store displays are not a valid source" ==
+I honestly don't understand this. They're all over the country, have high quality pictures of each unannounced figure, have high quality pictures of amiibo that were announced less than a day ago, come straight from Nintendo, and have never been false in the past. I have no idea why you could think that it's not a valid source for the information. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 14:18, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+:It's questionable in my view to allow retailers as a source for amiibo data, especially since there ''are'' times where misleading or false information comes about as a result (remember the retailer listing of Shovel Knight's amiibo as part of the Smash series?). If the store information is indeed valid, it shouldn't be long before we see it officially anyway, so it's a short-lived inconvenience at worst. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:31, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+::This isn't "data" in the sense of misinformation, these are actual photos...lol. [[User:Papayazzi|Papayazzi]] ([[User talk:Papayazzi|talk]]) 14:35, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+::The difference between this and the Shovel Knight debacle though is that these are EVERYWHERE. Gamestop, Target, Toys R Us, Walmart, etc. and have brand new images never seen before and accurately show which amiibo are exclusive to where, unlike the Shovel Knight amiibo, which used a fan render and was from one nobody site.
+::Also, on a side note, they showed the Famicom R.O.B. everywhere, even at Gamestop where it showed both R.O.B.s, I believe this means he's coming to the US sooner or later. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 15:39, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+:::FamiROB is a little more ehhh, I would say. But Roy and Ryu (and Timmy/Tommy etc.) are pretty obviously legit. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  15:41, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+::::This kind of boils down to a similar philosophy I have in cases of "this is probably true but hasn't been 100% confirmed and we should know for sure in the near future", which is that we can afford to wait a little while rather than go out on a limb. Basically, if the Roy and Ryu amiibo are being released in a timeframe soon enough that the stores actually have display information already, the time before they're officially revealed should be pretty short. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:20, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+:::::We aren't claiming release dates though. We're claiming pictures, which are very clear and false amiibo pictures of that style are almost notoriously difficult to make look that clear and that real. And it pretty much counts as 100% confirmed, because this is an official Nintendo product used by stores as a display for amiibo. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:24, 18 November 2015 (EST)
+== Better images for Roy and Ryu ==
+I can't edit this page so... yeah. There are better images for Roy and Ryu here: http://www.nintendo.co.za/amiibo-/Line-up/Line-up-932319.html
+[[User:RomaniPi|RomaniPi]] ([[User talk:RomaniPi|talk]]) 09:56, 20 December 2015 (EST)
+:Done. Thanks for letting us know. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 12:15, 20 December 2015 (EST)
+== Was the feed glitch fixed? If so, which update? ==
+I haven't checked since Lucas was released, and I'm unable to test it at the moment, so... [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 11:51, 28 December 2015 (EST)
+Update: Just tested it on the 3DS & it still happens. I'm putting it back in.
+== Lucas in Woolly World ==
+So, I just got my Lucas amiibo today, and scanned him into Woolly World, and he doesn't give a unique design, rather the generic amiibo design the Pokémon all give, despite the fact the official site lists Lucas as compatible. I suspect Roy and Ryu and the other DLC will probably be the same way unless Woolly World gets an update.
+Also, dunno if it's important to reflect in the table, but both versions of ROB unlock their own colour design. [[User:SaturnYoshi|SaturnYoshi]] ([[User talk:SaturnYoshi|talk]]) 02:22, 3 January 2016 (EST)
+== Future Releases - Wave 10 ==
+So I've been thinking that we might need to start adding more info about release dates for the Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta amiibo. For instance, I happen to know, at least here in Australia, that these are being released in 2017 (exact date unknown). They were supposed to be released in 2016, but got pushed back for an unknown reason. I don't know if we want to put any of that in or not, so I thought I should bring it up here first. [[User:Black Vulpine|Black Vulpine]] ([[User talk:Black Vulpine|talk]]) 11:05, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
+== amiibo vs. CPU ==
+Do amiibo really learn from anyone? I pretty sure amiibo are just generic CPU players with increased attack power and lower knockback intake by default. If they really do learn something, then why is it that my Mario amiibo (named Sokudo) constantly uses any other aerial, notably down aerial instead of his forward aerial unless an item happens to be in midair... which is what is "trained" him to do in several one-on-one matches? I may have been better off just making a custom character and assigning it as a CPU and getting a better and slightly fairer result.
+[[User:Ik0zael|Ik0zael]] ([[User talk:Ik0zael|talk]]) 16:29, 18 July 2017 (EDT)
+== About the amiibo page? ==
+The article states that amiibo are compatible with the Wii U, Nintendo 3DS, and ''Nintendo Switch''. I thought this was funny because there isn't a Nintendo Switch version of Super Smash Bros., so I'm just asking why it's there.--[[User:Sneaky Serpent|Sneaky Serpent]] ([[User talk:Sneaky Serpent|talk]]) 16:17, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
+:The article is about Amiibo in general, as well as in Smash Bros, and Nintendo have confirmed that the Switch will support Amiibo. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 16:20, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
+== Returning ''Ultimate'' Veteran amiibos ==
+I believe it’s highly likely that they’ll release amiibos for the cut veterans that’ll return for ''Ultimate'' (Young Link, Wolf, Pichu, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Ice Climbers, and Snake), though I’m clueless as to how the amiibos for Squirtle and Ivysaur would work out if they get amiibos, since both of them and Charizard are all tied in with the Pokémon Trainer. [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px|link=User:SonicSpeed48]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="navyblue">''Speed'''''48'''</font>]] 16:22, 21 June 2018 (EDT)
+== Not all veterans are confirmed ==
+Not interested in getting into an edit war over this, but the JP blog citation (which I added) does ''not'' confirm that all SSB4-absent veterans will be getting amiibo for Ultimate. It says that ''some'' will, and gives Pichu and Ice Climbers as examples. Wolf was also confirmed by another blog post on that same site. That leaves Squirtle, Ivysaur, Young Link, and Snake unconfirmed. Those characters were recently edited into the "future waves" section and inappropriately attached to the aforementioned citation. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 11:28, 12 July 2018 (EDT)
+== Icons in Cross-Compatibility section ==
+While I agree that Ultimate Icons look nicer, wouldn't it be more accurate to use the Smash 4 variants? This is especially an issue with characters like the Zelda characters where they have different designs, and the Charizard and Mii fighter icons also stand out in a weird way. I would highly recommend we change them back to the Smash 4 ones. --[[User:PleasePleasePepper|PleasePleasePepper]] ([[User talk:PleasePleasePepper|talk]]) 20:53, 30 September 2018 (EDT)
+:But then the ones for Chrom, Daisy, Isabelle and Inkling will stick out like a sore thumb as well, plus it's like that because the Mii Fighters share a stock icon with each other in Ultimate, and Charizard has the same situation with the Pokémon Trainer. The ones for OG Bayonetta and Female Corrin can easily be fixed when the game releases and the alternate costume stock icons come flooding in, but until that happens, they otherwise need to be left alone. Additionally, the new designs for the Legend of Zelda characters shouldn't matter at all, since they will use that design when scanning the amiibo into Ultimate. [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px]][[User:SonicSpeed|<font color="blue">'''Sonic'''</font>]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="crimson red">''Speed''</font><font color="gold">'''48'''</font>]][[File:I'mTheOnlyTigger.png|17px]] 21:56, 30 September 2018 (EDT)
+== Isabelle Smash Amiibo ==
+The citation that has the Amiibos from Smash series for the newcomers doesn't include Isabelle in the citation. The citation is a Tweet from August after the Smash direct that happened on the 7th of August.. And Isabelle was announced for Ultimate in September. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 15:57, 27 October 2018 (EDT)