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::Since lots of websites are covering it, I'd say keep it until it's disproven. Many of the rights to songs would've been negotiated for when they were being included in Smash anyway.[[User:IPDude|The One IP Dude]] ([[User talk:IPDude|talk]]) 02:48, February 25, 2021 (EST) | ::Since lots of websites are covering it, I'd say keep it until it's disproven. Many of the rights to songs would've been negotiated for when they were being included in Smash anyway.[[User:IPDude|The One IP Dude]] ([[User talk:IPDude|talk]]) 02:48, February 25, 2021 (EST) | ||
:::Sorry for being incredibly late, but Sakurai only has the rights to use the songs on the universe's stages; he had to ask for permission to include every song onto Small Battlefield. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:53, March 4, 2021 (EST) | :::Sorry for being incredibly late, but Sakurai only has the rights to use the songs on the universe's stages; he had to ask for permission to include every song onto Small Battlefield. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:53, March 4, 2021 (EST) | ||
::::Given the reveal of Kazuya during the Direct, it's completely busted. --[[User:Tailikku|Tailikku]] ([[User talk:Tailikku|talk]]) 15:42, June 15, 2021 (EDT) | |||
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The error page that shows up when you enter 73 at the end of the URL, doesn’t just show up for that URL specifically. It will show up if you add any 13 numbers after the 7. So if I put 13 random numbers after the 7, such as 72198461293543. It will still lead me to that same error page. You can see here: https://ec.nintendo.com/NZ/en/aocs/72198461293543 [[User:Michael14375|Michael14375]] ([[User talk:Michael14375|talk]]) 10:19, April 13, 2021 (EDT) | The error page that shows up when you enter 73 at the end of the URL, doesn’t just show up for that URL specifically. It will show up if you add any 13 numbers after the 7. So if I put 13 random numbers after the 7, such as 72198461293543. It will still lead me to that same error page. You can see here: https://ec.nintendo.com/NZ/en/aocs/72198461293543 [[User:Michael14375|Michael14375]] ([[User talk:Michael14375|talk]]) 10:19, April 13, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:Good catch, however, the two error messages that show up on the link you've provided and [https://ec.nintendo.com/NZ/en/aocs/70050000008573 the link the rumor is based around] are different. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Springing Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:00, April 13, 2021 (EDT) | :Good catch, however, the two error messages that show up on the link you've provided and [https://ec.nintendo.com/NZ/en/aocs/70050000008573 the link the rumor is based around] are different. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Springing Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:00, April 13, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:: | ::The same error code from the rumoured link will still show up even if you end the url with 99, so it's not unique to that page specifically. Seen here: https://ec.nintendo.com/NZ/en/aocs/70050000018999 [[User:Michael14375|Michael14375]] ([[User talk:Michael14375|talk]]) 09:48, April 14, 2021 (EDT) | ||
== Mr. Sakurai Presents Fighter 5 Theory == | |||
It says that Sakurai was holding up 3 fingers to represent 17 in binary, but wouldn't it make more sense for it to represent Three Houses? [[User:Michael14375|Michael14375]] ([[User talk:Michael14375|talk]]) 05:22, April 25, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:If you actually read the whole section, you'll realize the gesture representing 17 is supposed to be a reference to how ''Three Houses'' is considered the 17th mainline installment in the ''Fire Emblem'' series (which includes ''Heroes'' and separates all remakes, for some reason). Also, if I recall correctly, in one scene of Byleth's presentation, Sakurai actually counts all of the ''Fire Emblem'' installments in finger binary. [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 06:13, April 25, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Regarding the Concert Rumor's song choices == | |||
The person who posted the rumor seems to have not realized that Proof of a Hero is already in the game. I feel as though this should have been mentioned https://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_SSBU_Music_(Other_series)#Proof_of_a_Hero_~_4Version | |||
--[[Special:Contributions/68.55.55.59|68.55.55.59]] 06:24, May 10, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Not only is that a rather weak counter-point in several ways (in my opinion), but with all the other given, more notable reasons that the rumour is likely false, I don't think that any more counter-points are necessary. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 11:37, May 10, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Crash Bandicoot: On the Run official Facebook page== | |||
The Official Facebook page was doing a Q&A for its fans. A fan asked: "maybe some cross-promotion with Smash Bros when Crash gets added to Ultimate?" And was the only comment to receive a heart react by the page. As seen PapaGenos' latest video. [[User:Michael14375|Michael14375]] ([[User talk:Michael14375|talk]]) 09:30, May 20, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Could be as simple as whoever runs said page expressing "yeah, that could be fun in theory" and doesn't indicate anything definitive in the slightest. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:16, May 20, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Frisk joining Smash Fan Theory == | |||
So there's an intriguing fan theory that suggests Frisk from Undertale will join Smash as Fighters' Pass Vol. 2's last character. It's one that originated on Twitter. Here are the clues: | |||
*Clue #1: Sans received both a track (MEGALOVANIA) and a Mii Costume | |||
*Clue #2: Frisk can't speak | |||
With Fighters' Pass Vol. 2's addition, 6 voice tracks were added into the game. These are: | |||
1. Min Min | |||
2. Sephiroth | |||
3. Advent Children Cloud | |||
4. Pyra | |||
5. Mythra | |||
6. Kazuya | |||
This means that the last character is a silent character. | |||
*Clue #3: Undertale's anniversary is September | |||
That date was used for the reveal of Sans' Mii Costume. It's likely that a new Deltarune chapter will be announced. After that, either Toby Fox himself announcing Frisk for Smash or Sakurai hosts a separate Mr. Sakurai Presents video that reveals Frisk for the game (probably on September 14, 2021; six years after Undertale's launch). | |||
*Clue #4: Toby Fox is friends with Sakurai and Nintendo | |||
When announcing Sans for Smash Ultimate as a Mii Costume, the game’s director, Masahiro Sakurai discussed that Fox came over to his house to brawl in Ultimate. As cool as it would be to imagine the two developers as chums that united for their love of the fight, these two developers are busy people. | |||
Did they really come together for just a Mii Fighter Skin? Perhaps there’s something larger at play such as Frisk joining Smash? | |||
It seems like all these clues are coming together for Frisk being the final fighter in Smash Ultimate. We will find out for sure in just a few months. [[User:Hassantaleb123|Hassantaleb123]] ([[User talk:Hassantaleb123|talk]]) 14:32, July 10, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Smash isn't an ARG with "clues". You're connecting dots that either don't exist or were never intended to make a shape in the first place. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:34, July 10, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::This is the tweet the fan theory originated from: [https://twitter.com/playcenterwd/status/1404907289744658438/photo/1 Twitter] | |||
== The rapping Mario leak == | |||
I'll leave an [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/9/AAeFJvAACJgT.jpg image] of the 4chan leak people have been talking about lately below. I think it should be added to the article. [[User:Michael14375|Michael14375]] ([[User talk:Michael14375|talk]]) 15:26, August 9, 2021 (EDT) | |||
: I had to make your image a link since it breaks with the way pages are displayed. For that matter, this leak is not notable enough and is incorrect about "Fighter's Pass 2 and beyond" as Sakurai has officially stated that the next character is the last DLC character in the game. On top of that, this leak is grossly out of date being only 8 months old and not even taking Kazuya into consideration, as well as the whole "making Waluigi playable" thing yet again. --[[User:Tailikku|Tailikku]] ([[User talk:Tailikku|talk]]) 10:25, August 10, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::Not only that, but its wording is incredibly vague, making it a lot easier for some of these predictions to be "true." It's like saying the next character is a "highly requested character," which already covers like 10-20 potential candidates. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 10:43, August 10, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:The only thing here going for it is the Dante costume, which was inevitable considering the amount of Capcom stuff we got already, and "a fighter that appeases to both the east and west, will not break the internet and people will be angry", which can describe literally any video game character ever lmao [[User:RSM|<span style="color: #714EFF">'''RSM'''</span>]] [[File:RSMSignatureHead1.png|20px|Banjo_%26_Kazooie_(SSBU)]][[File:RSMSignatureHead2.png|20px|Steve_(SSBU)]] ([[User talk:RSM|talk]]) 15:39, August 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
==The Disney Music 4chan leak== | |||
In the last few days, this 4chan post has been making the rounds: | |||
“Actual info here: I work for Disney music, Nintendo called last week to request rights to several tracks from kingdom hearts to use in a ‘digital event’ on October 5. Sora is the last Smash character.” | |||
Because this was SUPPOSEDLY posted back in July 30th, and people don't believe the date shown was a lucky guess, everyobody and their grandmother is taking this leak as "evidence" that the spiky-haired self insert is the last fighter, and the fanbase for Kingdom Hearts is like "Sora is in Smash, nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah!", and it's driving me crazy! What are your thoughts on it, fellow Wikia comrades? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Numbuh1507|Numbuh1507]] ([[User talk:Numbuh1507|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Numbuh1507|contribs]]) 20:04, September 29, 2021 (EDT)</small> | |||
:There are a lot of "lucky date" guesses out there, even some that were posted here iirc, and yet none of them came to fruition. I honestly believe this is just a shitpost/trollpost. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 21:14, September 29, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:I'm not really sure what I want to make of it myself. While I'm not at all convinced in its favour, it does have some interesting circumstances going for it, and since it's got such a short shelf life I don't see why we shan't keep it in the back of our minds for the time being. I hate using the "monkeys on typewriters" analogy, because technically that could be applied to any leak that's ever happened. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 21:36, September 29, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Frankly, I don't see Disney contents (Kingdom Hearts included) making it in Smash. Plus, these texts don't provide us sources, so I doubt about that 4Chan text right now. In other words, it stinks strongly of "my uncle works at Nintendo" thingy. | |||
:They can fool me once with "Richter & Gardevoir rumor" back in 2018, but they can't fool me twice with the virtually same rumor. [[User:CSR|CSR]] ([[User talk:CSR|talk]]) 21:43, September 29, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:do you seriously think that someone who works for Disney's legal team would literally just spew all this information on the internet? seriously, do you actually believe that someone with a job that big and important would say this? [[User:RSM|<span style="color: #714EFF">'''RSM'''</span>]] [[File:RSMSignatureHead1.png|20px|Banjo_%26_Kazooie_(SSBU)]][[File:RSMSignatureHead2.png|20px|Steve_(SSBU)]] ([[User talk:RSM|talk]]) 16:49, September 30, 2021 (EDT) | |||
More than anything, I believe we've been over this before. Text-only "leaks" from 4chan are generally not notable for the purpose of this page. If one somehow happens to be 100% accurate through to the end of their predictions, we can consider it then. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:01, September 30, 2021 (EDT) | |||
Sorry, I just had to come back and comment in retrospective - this section aged like milk. It's funny because I was the only one in this conversation who didn't have serious doubts to the validity of the leak (not that I 100% believed it, either...). Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 14:59, October 5, 2021 (EDT) | |||
==Rigged Ballot #2== | |||
Ballot started April 1st, 2015 to October 3rd, 2015. Cloud Strife appeared on November 12, 2015. It seems unlikely that people overwhelmingly voted for Sora before Cloud extended the possibility of such inclusion more widely. As a first survey sample, Source Gaming's poll result on April 1, 2015 reveals that Sora isn't among the top 52. https://sourcegaming.info/2015/04/01/smash-poll-smash-dlc-results/ | |||
The possible and common reason for this call to ballot at the end is that the final DLC could have brought annoyance and frustration to supporters of other characters. Nintendo would therefore strategically need to create a unifying effect, by making believe that their choice would be motivated by a vote with the attention of wanting to please. This strategy would make it possible to place in the background that it's first of all Nintendo which imposes its own choice. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:90.49.237.143|90.49.237.143]] ([[User talk:90.49.237.143|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/90.49.237.143|contribs]]) 14:35, October 5, 2021 (EDT)</small> | |||
:I hope the Ballot was rigged, because there's no way the Smash community would be so moronic to ask for another Anime Swordfighter, even thoguh they were supposedly sick of them. I can imagine the backlash Sakurai would have to face. That would be hilarious. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Numbuh1507|Numbuh1507]] ([[User talk:Numbuh1507|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Numbuh1507|contribs]]) 15:00, October 5, 2021 (EDT)</small> | |||
::It should be mentioned ''who'' voted. The Source Gaming poll is overwhelmingly English speakers, whereas the Fighter Ballot probably had many more votes and from more places (i.e. not Europe or North America). Based on info on Wikipedia, Kingdom Hearts is more popular in Japan than in North America. It shouldn't be a surprise that a country filled with cartoons and mascots voted for a character from a game filled with cartoons and mascots backed by Disney, the king of cartoons and mascots. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 15:48, October 5, 2021 (EDT) | |||
As other survey samples, | |||
* Reddit's poll result on April 15, 2015 reveals that Sora isn't among the top 34.https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32mcez/final_results_the_smash_bros_dlc_reddit_survey_is/ | |||
* Source Gaming's Japan poll result on February 19, 2015 reveals that Sora doesn't appear. https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/02/19/perception-of-smash-dlc-in-japan/ | |||
* Source Gaming's Japan poll result on September 13, 2015 reveals that Sora is 31st with 1.12% of the votes. https://sourcegaming.info/2015/09/13/japantopdlcpt2/ | |||
Before Cloud came, Sora didn't have a important support. Can we assume that voting Sora was equivalent to voting for a small candidate? Would you agree to gather other sources to confront in order to get the most likely conclusion? <small>—unsigned comment added by [[User:90.49.237.143|90.49.237.143]] ([[User talk:90.49.237.143|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/90.49.237.143|contribs]]) 19:24, October 5, 2021 (EDT)</small> | |||
:I'm only going to touch on the ones related to Japan since those are the ones that would likely lead to the discrepancy; we already know the West's views more or less. First of all, neither are polls. They are the editor scouring online and compiling who they saw people talking about. Second, the first is 430 "votes" and the second is 1000 "votes"; that's significantly fewer "votes" than reddit (13,000) and the Smashboards thread has 33,000 views (which comparatively isn't great but still a lot). We don't know how many votes the Fighter Ballot received, but it is likely much greater than any of these fan polls combined for Japan alone. Third, "The reason I did this is because this method is highly ineffective for actually counting how much a character is requested. This is because with this method, '''I’m bound to pick up on the loudest fanbases. The loudest fanbase is not necessarily the biggest'''" -PushDustIn (third link). I don't think it is unreasonable to think that Japan could easily push a character to the top (see Dragon Quest requesting to go against standard release dates to avoid having no one come in to work). Western polls and websites aren't going to shed any light on how the rest of the world wanted Sora. I also want to quickly mention that Link, Shulk, Cloud, Sephiroth, and Hero are all "anime swordfighters" that are unique and tons of people like them (the latter being from Dragon Quest which, as mentioned earlier, is big in Japan), they're just overshadowed by the ones the community are actually tired of (Fire Emblem). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:07, October 5, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Moving and renaming the rigged ballot rumor to the leaks page == | |||
First if all: rename it, since Bayo won because she was the winner among negotiable characters, which was explicitly stated when she was revealed and further confirmed when Sora was. 2nd, if data for Bayo was factually confirmed to exist in versions way before she released, then that's more of a leak. Even though the data leaked long after she released, there have been leaks that weren't realized until after being proven true (Piranha Plant, Byleth, E3 2018). The only issue I can think of is the new name. Maybe "True ballot winner controversy"? [[Special:Contributions/157.242.208.151|157.242.208.151]] 13:48, October 7, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Remove disney music rumor and keep it on the leaks page == | |||
It was added because a select few people think it may be a coincidence. That may be true, but there's not enough evidence to suggest this was a fake like when somebody revealed they faked a Palutena "leak". I also wouldn't say it's "widely considered to be a coincidence" because so far I just see one person who's really persistent about it being a coincidence and one who said they think it's legit but added it here anyways. I also want to mention again that the post specifically said the request was to use music in the presentation, not the game, and Simple and Clean is in the presentation but not the game. [[Special:Contributions/68.4.176.97|68.4.176.97]] 15:20, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:That's simply not how we handle rumours. Around here, we start out by assuming it's fake, and look for enough credibility to prove it real. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 15:55, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::The specification that the music was for the presentation, not the game, is a huge boon to its credibility. There's also the fact that the leaker claimed to be a Disney employee, not a Nintendo employee, meaning they would have no reason to leak other characters (not like they could since this was the last one). The fact that they claimed to be in Disney's music division also means they have no reason to know any info regarding Sora's moveset because that's not what they specialize in. Going by the leaker's occupation, the only thing they could leak is music, which checks out. Any text-only leak can simply be a coincidence, but this has too many factors supporting its credibility. [[Special:Contributions/68.4.176.97|68.4.176.97]] 16:18, October 17, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Waluigi harassment rumor == | |||
There's an old rumor from 2018 relating to Sakurai supposedly being harassed en masse over Waluigi on Twitter - while not relating to Smash's content directly, it was very widespread, was reported on by multiple news sites, and cemented itself into Smash discourse for quite some time, but has since been semi-debunked (the Tweets were real, but there were only about 2 of them). Would it be worth mentioning on this page? --[[User:BubzieBobkat|What could possibly go wrong? - BubzieBobkat]] ([[User talk:BubzieBobkat|talk]]) 18:34, July 20, 2023 (EDT) | |||
:That's already covered on the Waluigi page's trivia section. I also don't believe it was a rumor; to me it was more so overblown drama that just so happened to involve ''Smash''. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:10, July 20, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Just would like to add information to the "Toad in Melee" hoax == | |||
Like with Sonic, Toad's select screen and Challenger Approach do not use art specific for the game; instead, [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Toadarmscrossed.jpg this artwork] from ''Super Mario 64'' was used. It may seem irrelevant, but I do believe it should be pointed out as one more clue to the falseness of this particular hoax, like it was pointed out for Sonic/Tails. [[Special:Contributions/191.246.230.10|191.246.230.10]] 12:01, August 12, 2023 (EDT) | |||
== Reinstalling some of the cut entries. == | |||
Compared to the other cut leaks from this page, I honestly think Tower of Smash is notable enough to warrant staying. Despite the lack of photographic evidence accompanying, it definitely was one of the most discussed leaks during the speculatory scene, at least '''way''' more than most of the entries that were cut from this page, that where generally more relegated to forum discussions, while Tower of Smash was notable enough [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg3P8QFuBDg&ab_channel=GameXplain to be covered by GameXplain back during its heyday.] I feel it's too iconic within the leak scene compared to the other more throwaway leaks cut from this page. | |||
I also feel the "James Bond & Banjo cut from Melee" rumor is still too widespread around Youtube and other sites for it to be cut. Since a lot of people still believe the rumor to be true, I feel it's best to acknowledge it here in this page because of how persistent it is among the community. Best to have a page here to debunk the myth rather than cutting the myth altogether. | |||
Lastly I wanted to ask if this hoax for 'Smash for Switch' could be added in, you can see info [https://www.neogaf.com/threads/rumor-super-smash-bros-switch-images-leaked.1382673/ here.] This was a super widespread and elaborate rumor in early 2018 about how Smash 4 was gonna be ported to Switch using content from the Smash Run mode or others, which got debunked once Smash Ultimate was properly revealed. The graphics looked convincing enough at the time, so I think it'd be good to go over the inclusion for this one on the Smash Ultimate or 4 section.--[[User:Kirb-Star|Kirb-Star]] ([[User talk:Kirb-Star|talk]]) 00:32, September 20, 2023 (EDT) | |||
:Tower of Smash may have been more notable than most of the other removed entries, and I was involved with the speculation scene on Smashboards where I saw it get discussed a good amount, but I don't think it's that much more notable than stuff like the "Pipeburst leak", the "Riddle leak", or other various forum "leaks" that managed to get a few things right and say things that people wanted to rile people up until they got debunked. This is especially so when it never had any real authority to it (unlike say Loz18's fake leaks), and I also don't think a GameXplain video alone is much in the way of notability. However, if a lot of people push for readding it, maybe I'll concede. | |||
:As for the Rare characters, my issue with it is that it's not so much of a fabricated rumor, but rather people misinterpreted Sakurai's remarks about them on the Melee site and then ran wild with a game of telephone. I don't think it belongs on this page, and any debunking of the misconception that they were planned/considered characters for Melee belongs on other pages (such as [[Banjo]]'s general character article). Again, if a lot of people want to insist otherwise on classifying it as a rumor, maybe I'll concede. | |||
:As for the "Smash 4 Switch port" rumor, I think there could be something there. The entry about it that was on the page prior, however, was a meandering mess that was mostly covering insider people talking vaguely about the next Smash, in ways that could have been just as applicable to what Ultimate actually was, and so it was removed. If something better can be written that focuses only on definitive "Smash 4 is getting a port on Switch" rumors, it will be reconsidered. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:37, September 21, 2023 (EDT) | |||