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I think there should be some kind of rule against writing pages as if they were forums or news articles. Pages should to the best of our knowledge be written now as they should look later on down the line; if you just focus on keeping it up to date, you get what happened with Vergeben's page which got several whole-ass one-liner linebreaks for ''each minor update'' (tell me the "DLC leaks" section [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Vergeben_leaks&oldid=1328193 here] does not look stupid as fuck; I get doing this the first three times or so but after that it was clearly ridiculous). This was even acknowledged as a problem with posting about rumors [[Forum:Major overhaul for "List of rumors"|in this forum discussion]] ("Rumors are treated like a play-by-play with up-to-the-minute detail."), so I get the feeling it wasn't just me. I don't know how well competitive pages have dealt with this problem if at all, though given this message in the source of MkLeo's page ("We are in no rush to adding in these sections. If you are to add something, don't just add a sentence or two as if it's a real-time report."), I can't imagine it going very well there either. I am not suggesting we ban live reporting entirely - I already know [[SmashWiki talk:What SmashWiki is not#Suggestion: SW is not live|that proposal failed]], and [[List of Director's Room Miiverse posts|there are pages that effectively function as a time capsuled news report]] - but I think it needs to be made clear that just because we have a news section does not mean this is a news site and so it should not be treated like one. I suppose this could be solved with a new section in SW:NOT saying "SmashWiki is not a news report", but my issue is moreso with articles entering somewhat of a "forum" mode just so they're up of date; I figured this'd be the best place for that. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 01:16, February 2, 2023 (EST) | I think there should be some kind of rule against writing pages as if they were forums or news articles. Pages should to the best of our knowledge be written now as they should look later on down the line; if you just focus on keeping it up to date, you get what happened with Vergeben's page which got several whole-ass one-liner linebreaks for ''each minor update'' (tell me the "DLC leaks" section [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Vergeben_leaks&oldid=1328193 here] does not look stupid as fuck; I get doing this the first three times or so but after that it was clearly ridiculous). This was even acknowledged as a problem with posting about rumors [[Forum:Major overhaul for "List of rumors"|in this forum discussion]] ("Rumors are treated like a play-by-play with up-to-the-minute detail."), so I get the feeling it wasn't just me. I don't know how well competitive pages have dealt with this problem if at all, though given this message in the source of MkLeo's page ("We are in no rush to adding in these sections. If you are to add something, don't just add a sentence or two as if it's a real-time report."), I can't imagine it going very well there either. I am not suggesting we ban live reporting entirely - I already know [[SmashWiki talk:What SmashWiki is not#Suggestion: SW is not live|that proposal failed]], and [[List of Director's Room Miiverse posts|there are pages that effectively function as a time capsuled news report]] - but I think it needs to be made clear that just because we have a news section does not mean this is a news site and so it should not be treated like one. I suppose this could be solved with a new section in SW:NOT saying "SmashWiki is not a news report", but my issue is moreso with articles entering somewhat of a "forum" mode just so they're up of date; I figured this'd be the best place for that. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 01:16, February 2, 2023 (EST) | ||
:I '''support''' this idea. There are definitely cases where live reporting is necessary (even other than those you mentioned, such as the competitive scene), but at the end of the day, we're not a news source, we're a wiki. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Lovely Gamer'''</span>]] 12:23, February 2, 2023 (EST) | :I '''support''' this idea. There are definitely cases where live reporting is necessary (even other than those you mentioned, such as the competitive scene), but at the end of the day, we're not a news source, we're a wiki. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Lovely Gamer'''</span>]] 12:23, February 2, 2023 (EST) | ||
:"''I already know [[SmashWiki talk:What SmashWiki is not#Suggestion: SW is not live|that proposal failed]]''" | |||
:I wouldn't say this failed, those that responded shown majority support. Seems to be one of those things where apathy took over and people just didn't care enough to push it through, nor even officially try declaring it as failed, I know I forgot about it shortly after posting about it, with it being during the time I was mostly inactive. I think the discussion about it could be revived, I still don't like people immediately updating tournament pages after every single player gets knocked out, though given a lot of the non-competitive focused editors are now inactive with it being over four years since the last game's release with no sight of a new game, and traffic in general is lessened, it is not as pressing of an issue when that concern was brought up six years ago. That said, it can still be argued to push it through anyway for future proofing. | |||
:With that said, I am in agreement to not write pages as live reports, and have voiced my disapproval before in the discord serve of smasher articles having history sections that are written like sloppily-made "real-time reports" that consists of just regurgitating their result at every single significant tournament. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 14:43, February 2, 2023 (EST) | |||