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:::::What we be discussing is which universe this item should be divided into, not which symbol is better. If you think it should be classified according to trophies or something, I've given the counterexample, so this standard won't convince me, unless these pages are changed or there are other uniform standards.--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 03:43, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
:::::What we be discussing is which universe this item should be divided into, not which symbol is better. If you think it should be classified according to trophies or something, I've given the counterexample, so this standard won't convince me, unless these pages are changed or there are other uniform standards.--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 03:43, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
::::::I don’t see the soccer ball listed as an “other” or a Smash-Universe spirit either. The only other thing to list it as is real-life. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 04:01, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
::::::I don’t see the soccer ball listed as an “other” or a Smash-Universe spirit either. The only other thing to list it as is real-life. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 04:01, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::The problem is not this, the Soccer Ball trophy wrote two series: ''Soccer'' and ''Mario Strikers''. What we are discussing is which universe it should belong to and determine symbol, real-life is out of the scope of discussion.--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 04:18, May 30, 2019 (EDT)--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 04:18, May 30, 2019 (EDT)

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Animal Crossing?

I vaguely remember an errand in the GameCube version of Animal Crossing where you had to kick a soccer ball to a villager who asked for one. Could this be the AC ball? Tinlion 02:14, November 20, 2007 (EST)

I clearly remember that, and I don't recall a soccer ball in any other game, so it seems harmless to list it alongside the Pitfall as an AC item. Just my say anyway... Erik, Lord of Universes 02:27, November 20, 2007 (EST)
I think doing that would be a bit too speculative at this point. Also note that in the same screen, Mario is throwing a baseball or a volleyball or something. These are probably just non-specific sports item, much like how the Banana Peel is a Smash original instead of a DK or Mario item. -Thores 02:33, November 20, 2007 (EST)
Perhaps, but I think that white ball is actually a smoke ball, not a sports thing. Erik, Lord of Universes 02:44, November 20, 2007 (EST)
It might even be from Super Mario Strikers, but that's highly unlikely. =| - Pokemon DP - I mean, why put the Soccer Ball from Strikers in when the Metal Ball from Strikers Charged is much better? So, I'm assuming this isn't the Strikers one, but I'm just giving a possibility.

Do sports count as a game series?

I'm not entirely sure 74.46.63.39 21:45, 7 July 2014 (EDT)

The game listed in the trophy description is literally part of the "Sports Series", so yes. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Brazen 21:48, 7 July 2014 (EDT)

Series Symbol

Which series should the soccer ball use? "Other" or "Mario"? The Soccer Ball is stated to be based on the one from Super Mario Strikers. It is also listed as part of the Mario series in its trophies. Although the Viruses and Dr. Mario are listed as "Other" in Brawl, they are listed as "Mario" as Spirits. Also, Pauline uses the Donkey Kong symbol and Kamek uses the Yoshi symbol because that is what their trophies were originally categorized as despite the series change with their Spirits. Yes, Kamek is a Mario character, but is(Wiki)/was(Ultimate) a Yoshi character in Smash. If an element that appears in Smash originally used the "Others" symbol, shouldn't an actual series symbol take priority if it receives it, or is categorized at it, later? Wouldn't be like with Little Mac and Nintendog who were originally classified as "other" in Brawl, but now use their own symbol? Wolff (talk) 14:04, May 29, 2019 (EDT)

As you said, whether it's the trophy or something categorization is not standard in Smash, they may change frequently, so I think use the origin universe is the most stable approach. I have no objection to using classification criteria of Smash, but should be based on the same criterion. If we take the latest Smash as the criterion, Pauline and Kamek should belong to the Mario universe. If we take the origin universe as criterion, Soccer Ball should belong to other universes. --Capstalker (talk) 02:15, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
I thought they used the symbol from the series they came from is they came from one with a symbol? Isn’t others just ones that don’t have a symbol in any way shape or form? If it is considered part of the Mario series, why not use the Mario symbol? The other 2 characters sound like unique situations to me. What do you say about the Fly Swatter assistant trophy then? 172.58.175.190 02:59, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
Since it’s listed as part of the Mario series in the trophy lists, I think we should keep the Mario symbol. Plus, we should use the other symbol as sparingly ad possible if we’re not going to use the official one. Lou Cena (talk) 03:03, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
Agreed172.58.175.190 03:08, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
What we be discussing is which universe this item should be divided into, not which symbol is better. If you think it should be classified according to trophies or something, I've given the counterexample, so this standard won't convince me, unless these pages are changed or there are other uniform standards.--Capstalker (talk) 03:43, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
I don’t see the soccer ball listed as an “other” or a Smash-Universe spirit either. The only other thing to list it as is real-life. Lou Cena (talk) 04:01, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
The problem is not this, the Soccer Ball trophy wrote two series: Soccer and Mario Strikers. What we are discussing is which universe it should belong to and determine symbol, real-life is out of the scope of discussion.--Capstalker (talk) 04:18, May 30, 2019 (EDT)--Capstalker (talk) 04:18, May 30, 2019 (EDT)