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'''Yoshi''' ({{ja|ヨッシー|Yosshī}}, ''Yoshi'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''. He was revealed for the game along with the rest of the veterans on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93H7YC-83o June 12th, 2018]; he and {{SSBU|Luigi}} were the last veterans confirmed, with both appearing at the very end of the trailer. Yoshi is classified as [[Fighter number|Fighter #05]]. | '''Yoshi''' ({{ja|ヨッシー|Yosshī}}, ''Yoshi'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''. He was revealed for the game along with the rest of the veterans on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93H7YC-83o June 12th, 2018]; he and {{SSBU|Luigi}} were the last veterans confirmed, with both appearing at the very end of the trailer. Yoshi is classified as [[Fighter number|Fighter #05]]. | ||
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As in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', ''Ultimate'' uses all of Kazumi Totaka's ''Yoshi's Story'' voice clips that were last used in ''Brawl''. | As in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', ''Ultimate'' uses all of Kazumi Totaka's ''Yoshi's Story'' voice clips that were last used in ''Brawl''. | ||
Yoshi is ranked | Yoshi is ranked 20th out of 82 on the current [[tier list]], placing him in the A+ tier. This is a significant improvement from his 33rd out of 54 placement in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', and it's his best placement in the series. | ||
==Attributes== | ==Attributes== | ||
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Yoshi benefits from many of the universal engine changes. All of his aerials have reduced landing lag, which combined with his vastly improved forward tilt improves Yoshi's combo and damage racking potential, especially at low percentages. As with other veterans, Yoshi's already excellent mobility has been further increased, helping his [[approach]]. The changes to air dodging strengthen his edge-guarding with both aerials and Egg Throw, and also grant Yoshi a useful, invincible recovery tool, which also drastically improves his notoriously limited recovery in combination with his buffed Egg Throw. | Yoshi benefits from many of the universal engine changes. All of his aerials have reduced landing lag, which combined with his vastly improved forward tilt improves Yoshi's combo and damage racking potential, especially at low percentages. As with other veterans, Yoshi's already excellent mobility has been further increased, helping his [[approach]]. The changes to air dodging strengthen his edge-guarding with both aerials and Egg Throw, and also grant Yoshi a useful, invincible recovery tool, which also drastically improves his notoriously limited recovery in combination with his buffed Egg Throw. | ||
However, Yoshi is not without a few nerfs. His [[up tilt]] has less range, no longer hitting opponents up close, which limits its combo potential to hitting opponents above or behind him, and forces Yoshi to use his improved forward tilt in front of himself. [[Dash attack]] can no longer cross-up shields, making it more punishable and risky as an approach option. Finally, Yoshi's overall jump height, while still impressive, has nevertheless been lowered, hampering his vertical survivability offstage; further compounding this are the increased ending lag on air dodges and the ability to use one at a time before landing or getting hit, forcing Yoshi to cautiously use his own air dodge in tandem with his recovery options to avoid a guaranteed self-destruct. Of note is that Yoshi still retains one of his most noticeable flaws from ''SSB4'', that being his grab game | However, Yoshi is not without a few nerfs. His [[up tilt]] has less range, no longer hitting opponents up close, which limits its combo potential to hitting opponents above or behind him, and forces Yoshi to use his improved forward tilt in front of himself. [[Dash attack]] can no longer cross-up shields, making it more punishable and risky as an approach option. Finally, Yoshi's overall jump height, while still impressive, has nevertheless been lowered, hampering his vertical survivability offstage; further compounding this are the increased ending lag on air dodges and the ability to use one at a time before landing or getting hit, forcing Yoshi to cautiously use his own air dodge in tandem with his recovery options to avoid a guaranteed self-destruct. Of note is that Yoshi still retains one of his most noticeable flaws from ''SSB4'', that being his very underwhelming grab game. | ||
Overall, Yoshi's changes have improved his core kit from ''SSB4'', resulting in a lower learning curve; while this doesn't change his playstyle significantly, this allows Yoshi to better play to his strengths thanks | Overall, Yoshi's changes have improved his core kit from ''SSB4'', resulting in a lower learning curve; while this doesn't change his playstyle significantly, this allows Yoshi to better play to his strengths thanks his moves' improved consistency and utility. Because of this, and a comparatively lower amount of nerfs, Yoshi is a significantly better character than he was in ''SSB4'', resulting in a positive perception since the game's release that has only improved over time. | ||
{{SSB4 to SSBU changelist|char=Yoshi}} | {{SSB4 to SSBU changelist|char=Yoshi}} | ||
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==Moveset== | ==Moveset== | ||
*Yoshi can [[Crawling|crawl]]. | *Yoshi can [[Crawling|crawl]]. | ||
*Yoshi uses a {{iw|mariowiki|Yoshi Egg}} as his shield instead of a bubble like the rest of the cast. Rather than shrinking, his shield | *Yoshi uses a {{iw|mariowiki|Yoshi Egg}} as his shield instead of a bubble-like the rest of the cast. Rather than shrinking, his shield grows darker as it weakens, rendering him immune to [[shield stab]]bing. | ||
*Yoshi possesses a special type of armor during the entire duration of his double jump that subtracts 120 units of knockback, with Yoshi not flinching at all if the result is negative, or otherwise only receiving the knockback difference. | *Yoshi possesses a special type of armor during the entire duration of his double jump that subtracts 120 units of knockback, with Yoshi not flinching at all if the result is negative, or otherwise only receiving the knockback difference. | ||
''For a gallery of Yoshi's hitboxes, see [[Yoshi (SSBU)/Hitboxes|here]].'' | ''For a gallery of Yoshi's hitboxes, see [[Yoshi (SSBU)/Hitboxes|here]].'' | ||
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|usmashname=Somersault Kick ({{ja|ちゅうがえりげり|Chūgaeri Geri}}) | |usmashname=Somersault Kick ({{ja|ちゅうがえりげり|Chūgaeri Geri}}) | ||
|usmashdmg=14% (clean), 12% (late) | |usmashdmg=14% (clean), 12% (late) | ||
|usmashdesc=A | |usmashdesc=A bicycle kick. The attack has a clean hitbox and can be a potential KO option. It can hit opponents who are behind Yoshi but has somewhat punishable ending lag. | ||
|dsmashname=Front and Back Tail ({{ja|ぜんごしっぽ|Zengo Shippo}}) | |dsmashname=Front and Back Tail ({{ja|ぜんごしっぽ|Zengo Shippo}}) | ||
|dsmashdmg=12% (close), 10% (tip) | |dsmashdmg=12% (close), 10% (tip) | ||
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|fairname=Noggin Dunk ({{ja|かいてんずつき|Kaiten Zutsuki}}, ''Rotating Headbutt'') | |fairname=Noggin Dunk ({{ja|かいてんずつき|Kaiten Zutsuki}}, ''Rotating Headbutt'') | ||
|fairdmg=15% (close), 14% (tip) | |fairdmg=15% (close), 14% (tip) | ||
|fairdesc=Rears his head back and then performs a downward headbutt. Possibly Yoshi's best edge guarding tool, with both hitboxes dealing an impressive amount of damage, knockback, and the tip is a [[meteor smash]] | |fairdesc=Rears his head back and then performs a downward headbutt. Possibly Yoshi's best edge guarding tool, with both hitboxes dealing an impressive amount of damage, knockback, and the tip is a [[meteor smash]]. But it has significant startup lag (16 frames) and can no longer autocancel in a short hop. | ||
|bairname=Rampaging Tail ({{ja|あばれしっぽ|Abare Shippo}}) | |bairname=Rampaging Tail ({{ja|あばれしっぽ|Abare Shippo}}) | ||
|bairdmg=3.5% (hits 1-2), 5.5% (hit 3) | |bairdmg=3.5% (hits 1-2), 5.5% (hit 3) | ||
|bairdesc=Swings his tail upward, then downward, and then upward. Moderate startup lag, with its first hit coming out at frame 11, but has a solid damage output and good knockback. Grounded opponents receive low vertical knockback from the first two hits, making them effective at starting combos. | |bairdesc=Swings his tail upward, then downward, and then upward. Moderate startup lag, with its first hit coming out at frame 11, but has a solid damage output and good knockback. Grounded opponents receive low vertical knockback from the first two hits, making them effective at starting combos. Autocancels in a full hop. | ||
|uairname=Rotating Tail ({{ja|かいてんしっぽ|Kaiten Shippo}}) | |uairname=Rotating Tail ({{ja|かいてんしっぽ|Kaiten Shippo}}) | ||
|uairdmg=12% | |uairdmg=12% | ||
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|dairname=Flutter Kick ({{ja|ばたあしキック|Bata Ashi Kikku}}) | |dairname=Flutter Kick ({{ja|ばたあしキック|Bata Ashi Kikku}}) | ||
|dairdmg=2.3% (hits 1-6), 1.9% (hits 7-12), 2.8% (last hit) | |dairdmg=2.3% (hits 1-6), 1.9% (hits 7-12), 2.8% (last hit) | ||
|dairdesc=A {{iw|mariowiki|Flutter Jump}}-styled series of kicks. Notorious for being the most damaging aerial move in every installment of the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series, it deals 28% base damage if all the hits connect. Hits link reliably into each other and the final hit has high base knockback, making the move a powerful vertical KO option when near the top blast zone | |dairdesc=A {{iw|mariowiki|Flutter Jump}}-styled series of kicks. Notorious for being the most damaging aerial move in every installment of the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series, it deals 28% base damage if all the hits connect. Hits link reliably into each other and the final hit has high base knockback, making the move a powerful vertical KO option when near the top blast zone. | ||
|grabname=Grab ({{ja|つかみ|Tsukami}}) | |grabname=Grab ({{ja|つかみ|Tsukami}}) | ||
|grabdesc=Extends his tongue to pull the opponent into his mouth. Compared to other fighters, Yoshi's grabs have a lot more range, but a considerable amount of startup and ending lag. | |grabdesc=Extends his tongue to pull the opponent into his mouth. Compared to other fighters, Yoshi's grabs have a lot more range, but a considerable amount of startup and ending lag. | ||
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''See also: [[:Category:Yoshi players (SSBU)]]'' | ''See also: [[:Category:Yoshi players (SSBU)]]'' | ||
*{{Sm| | *{{Sm|Bluesky|France}} - The best Yoshi player in Europe, with several strong placements at European events including 25th at the major {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2022}} and the supermajor {{Trn|Temple: Hermès Edition}}. | ||
*{{Sm|JMafia|USA}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the United States | *{{Sm|JMafia|USA}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the United States for most of the game's competitive lifespan, having placed 33rd at the major {{Trn|CEO 2021}} as well as the supermajors {{Trn|2GG: Kongo Saga}} and {{Trn|Let's Make Moves Miami}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Meme|Mexico}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the world in the early metagame who was a top 5 player in Mexico during his prime, | *{{Sm|Meme|Mexico}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the world in the early metagame who was a top 5 player in Mexico during his prime. Although he had lower activity in the post-online metagame, he has still seen strong results, including placing 7th at the supermajor {{Trn|Smash Factor X}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Ron|Japan}} - | *{{Sm|Myles|USA}} - The best Yoshi player in North America in 2021, ranking 83rd on the [[OrionRank Ultimate: Eclipse]] and notably placing 13th at the supermajor {{Trn|Riptide}} defeating {{Sm|Zomba}} and {{Sm|Ned}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Rotsuku|Japan}} - | *{{Sm|Ron|Japan}} - One of the strongest hidden bosses in ''Ultimate'', and is also one of the best Yoshi players in the world despite his limited activity, having been ranked 50th on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]] and placing highly at multiple events, including 2nd at the major {{Trn|Sumabato SP Ultimate}} and 7th at the major {{Trn|Umebura SP 6}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Suarez|USA}} - | *{{Sm|Rotsuku|Japan}} - One of the best Yoshi players in Japan in the early metagame, placing highly at several majors including 13th at the major {{Trn|Umebura SP 5}}, 17th at the supermajor {{Trn|Umebura Japan Major 2019}}, and 25th at the supermajor {{Trn|EVO 2019}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Yoshidora|Japan}} - The best Yoshi player of all-time | *{{Sm|Suarez|USA}} - One of the best Yoshi players in the world in early metagame and the first Yoshi player ranked on a notable global ranking, ranking 49th on the [[Spring 2019 PGRU]]. | ||
*{{Sm|Yoshidora|Japan}} - The best Yoshi player of all-time. He is the only Yoshi player to win a major, doing so at {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 8}}, and the only Yoshi player to be ranked top 10 on a global ranking, ranking 8th on the [[LumiRank 2023]]. | |||
===Tier placement and history=== | ===Tier placement and history=== | ||
Following ''Ultimate''{{'}}s release, numerous players of all skill levels took an interest in Yoshi due to his overall similarity to how he was in the previous game, making him rather easy to play and learn the game with. Yoshi's new strengths, especially his improved KO power, also reinvigorated his playerbase from the previous game, allowing him to have a sizeable representation in the early metagame, which was spearheaded by players such as {{Sm|Suarez}}, {{Sm|Meme}}, and {{Sm|Ron}}. As such, most players considered Yoshi to be a high-tier character, with his overall representation peaking at 20th by the end of 2019.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AJs-mj5TTdkmkl7nhj4twJymVPTLTUdT0MBToL1cxDs/edit#gid=342014565|title=OrionRank character data for July-December 2019}}</ref> | Following ''Ultimate''{{'}}s release, numerous players of all skill levels took an interest in Yoshi due to his overall similarity to how he was in the previous game, making him rather easy to play and learn the game with. Yoshi's new strengths, especially his improved KO power, also reinvigorated his playerbase from the previous game, allowing him to have a sizeable representation in the early metagame, which was spearheaded by players such as {{Sm|Suarez}}, {{Sm|Meme}}, and {{Sm|Ron}}. As such, most players considered Yoshi to be a high-tier character, with his overall representation peaking at 20th by the end of 2019.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AJs-mj5TTdkmkl7nhj4twJymVPTLTUdT0MBToL1cxDs/edit#gid=342014565|title=OrionRank character data for July-December 2019}}</ref> | ||
However, Yoshi's representation began to take a hit as the metagame progressed. Yoshi's best players in the early metagame either saw a stagnation in results (Suarez) or became far less active than before (Meme). Furthermore, Yoshi's weaknesses, particularly his linear recovery and weakness to disjoints, became more apparent. These negatives slowly decreased Yoshi's representation in the metagame, with it ultimately hitting 36th by the end of 2022.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gRlzy4z_dpqb2ZRhGoqtbDcuvUKz_ROsMZHGegon53M/edit#gid=329450080|title=OrionRank character data for July-December 2022}}</ref> Nevertheless, Yoshi players still managed to find success, particularly in Japan thanks to Ron's occasional appearances in tournaments and the rise of {{Sm|Yoshidora}}, who since the pandemic period has place top 8 at multiple majors. These strong results | However, Yoshi's representation began to take a hit as the metagame progressed. Yoshi's best players in the early metagame either saw a stagnation in results (Suarez) or became far less active than before (Meme). Furthermore, Yoshi's weaknesses, particularly his linear recovery and weakness to disjoints, became more apparent. These negatives slowly decreased Yoshi's representation in the metagame, with it ultimately hitting 36th by the end of 2022.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gRlzy4z_dpqb2ZRhGoqtbDcuvUKz_ROsMZHGegon53M/edit#gid=329450080|title=OrionRank character data for July-December 2022}}</ref> Nevertheless, Yoshi players still managed to find success, particularly in Japan thanks to Ron's occasional appearances in tournaments and the rise of {{Sm|Yoshidora}}, who since the pandemic period has place top 8 at multiple majors. These strong results have helped keep Yoshi's reputation afloat, and as a result Yoshi currently sits at 20th on the tier list in the high tier, with some players believing he should be ranked higher, especially in Japan, where panelists for the first tier list ranked him in the top 10. | ||
=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: Jurassic Journey== | =={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: Jurassic Journey== |