User talk:Serpent King/Archive 15
Excuse me?
Is it not a bit of an abuse of power to completely protect a page and refuse to let anyone discuss it just because you don't think it should be dealt with right now? Admins should not have the power to refuse to allow users to have discussions, even temporarily. If certain members of the community want to deal with Vergeben, they should be able to. Obviously the vast majority will not respond until more pressing matters have been dealt with, but that's their choice.
Also, protecting the page was completely uncalled for and now makes it impossible to update several sections that are relevant to this announcement. TheNuttyOne 13:13, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- It's for 3 days, chill. SerpentKing 13:14, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- That doesn't answer any of my concerns. The amount of time an abuse of power is in place does not make it an abuse of power. I would like to hear an explanation for how your actions correspond to the wiki's policies. TheNuttyOne 13:17, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- I gave my reasons for protecting in my summary, that's all there is. I don't want a discussion like that getting lost underneath the mess a new release will get. SerpentKing 13:20, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- I completely agree. However, using your admin powers to forcibly prevent it from happening is abuse. In fact, it is very specifically listed as something you are not allowed to use your powers for: "Administrators should not use their administrator powers to settle editing disputes; for example, to lock a page on a version he or she prefers in an editing dispute that isn't vandalism." TheNuttyOne 13:42, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- Technically there's no edit dispute here, and especially not one I am involved in. I reverted one time to prevent lost info (as it was to be moved to leaks) and that's it. SerpentKing 13:45, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- But you also protected the page. The reversion was, I suppose, technically fine, although the edit summary was phrased a bit too authoritatively for my taste. Protecting the page when there was no edit war nor vandalism is unjustifiable. TheNuttyOne 13:47, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- Technically there's no edit dispute here, and especially not one I am involved in. I reverted one time to prevent lost info (as it was to be moved to leaks) and that's it. SerpentKing 13:45, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- I completely agree. However, using your admin powers to forcibly prevent it from happening is abuse. In fact, it is very specifically listed as something you are not allowed to use your powers for: "Administrators should not use their administrator powers to settle editing disputes; for example, to lock a page on a version he or she prefers in an editing dispute that isn't vandalism." TheNuttyOne 13:42, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- I gave my reasons for protecting in my summary, that's all there is. I don't want a discussion like that getting lost underneath the mess a new release will get. SerpentKing 13:20, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- That doesn't answer any of my concerns. The amount of time an abuse of power is in place does not make it an abuse of power. I would like to hear an explanation for how your actions correspond to the wiki's policies. TheNuttyOne 13:17, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
(Reset indent) The whole Vergeben fiasco is one that many, many people argue about - we don't really want those people to be fighting over here (and, to be quite frank, I'll owe up to the fact that we've done kind of a shitty job at preventing that). For now, the page will be locked so that we can gather all of the information without any biases. Aidan, the Rurouni 13:50, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- So you're preventing normal users from participating in the gathering of information because you do not trust them to handle editing, so only admins should be allowed to.
- Yup. Sounds like abuse. TheNuttyOne 13:51, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- Admins will not be editing them either. SerpentKing 13:52, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- ...so we're literally just postponing new information on a fairly popular page out of fear that someone might start an edit war? I'll admit that's not as directly abuse, but I'd still argue it's dumb. TheNuttyOne 13:55, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- Correct me if I am wrong, but between the two, "is vergeben a real leak" is the only new thing the direct would add right? That being the case, I don't see the issue. That being said, I've shortened the protection to this time tomorrow. SerpentKing 13:58, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- I'd like to point out that protecting articles when an event occurs which throws its subject into controversy is standard practice on wikis as a whole. It's a preventative measure against masses of emotionally driven edits among other things. Alex the Jigglypuff trainer 14:15, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- Another food for thought: The Vergeben conversation had been going on for a long time, and the section had already been moved around a few times. Protecting it, now for a day, would prevent anyone else from doing that while we try to update the wiki with the new information.
- Also, as far as I know the talk pages aren't blocked. so the Vergeben discussion, or any leaks/rumors as a whole, can still go on. Cookies
Creme 14:22, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- I'd like to point out that protecting articles when an event occurs which throws its subject into controversy is standard practice on wikis as a whole. It's a preventative measure against masses of emotionally driven edits among other things. Alex the Jigglypuff trainer 14:15, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- Correct me if I am wrong, but between the two, "is vergeben a real leak" is the only new thing the direct would add right? That being the case, I don't see the issue. That being said, I've shortened the protection to this time tomorrow. SerpentKing 13:58, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- ...so we're literally just postponing new information on a fairly popular page out of fear that someone might start an edit war? I'll admit that's not as directly abuse, but I'd still argue it's dumb. TheNuttyOne 13:55, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
- Admins will not be editing them either. SerpentKing 13:52, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
A rename
My current persona at the moment is Scorbunny, so after waiting 6 months, I would like to get a rename please. -- 
Pancham (talk • contributions) 08:51, June 12, 2019 (EDT)
- As per SW:NAMECHANGE, please write back here in a couple of days to confirm. SerpentKing 12:52, June 12, 2019 (EDT)
- Back here to confirm the change. -- Pancham (talk • contributions) 07:08, June 16, 2019 (EDT)
- Back here to confirm the change. --
Fighting Mii Team split
Hi, sorry for bothering you again for moving another page where a redirect already exists (since a crat has to do it), but could you please move the Fighting Mii Team Page? With 6 people voicing support and absolutely no mention of opposition, I think the page could be moved now. Lou Cena (talk) 01:13, June 16, 2019 (EDT)
- Here’s AwesomeLink’s draft for you to move. Lou Cena (talk) 01:39, June 16, 2019 (EDT)
Explanation of my edit
My apologies if you mistook my edit to the admin noticeboard talk page and its archive as vandalism, what I intended on doing is since it was only 15 KB, it didn't need to be archived, and thus I put all that stuff back in the main talk page. I remember you did something similar when I archived the admin noticeboard one time. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer Leave a message if needed 19:26, June 16, 2019 (EDT)
- I realize what was going on now, didn't realize I was dealing with the talk page at first. Still though, no harm in leaving it archived. SerpentKing 19:27, June 16, 2019 (EDT)
Stage Images
I was wondering for awhile what kind of pictures are suppose to be in the a stage's gallery? I am under the impression that it is suppose to be pictures that showcase the stage, whether or not it's just close ups on certain parts of it. I ask because numerous pages (especially Skyloft) seem to have numerous photos that appaer to showcase the characters on it rather than of the stage itself. In meany cases, some are just different characters in the same location (like Luigi's Mansion). I feel it makes the stage galleries bloated with pictures that are not really necessary. What kind of pictures are appropriate for a stage's gallery, and which are not? Thank you. Wolff (talk) 01:57, June 18, 2019 (EDT)
- Sorry for late response. Yes, stage galleries are to show off the stage. They should contain images of stage mechanics and maybe specific parts (perhaps something that can't be easily seen in a full shot of the stage). They are not to contain literally every image on this site featuring the stage. SerpentKing 15:11, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
- So which ones should stay? Ones they show more of the stage then they do character, and clearer close ups? And especially not ones where it is hard to see the stage behind the characters? I am probably not the best person to confidently decide which are really relevant and which are just causing unnecessary bloat. Wolff (talk) 16:58, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
Rename Request
Hi! I was wondering if I could have my username changed to "Serena Strawberry"? Thanks. DryKirby64 (talk) 06:25, June 20, 2019 (EDT)
- As per SW:NAMECHANGE please write back here in a few days to confirm. Thanks! SerpentKing 13:24, June 20, 2019 (EDT)
- I'd like to confirm the change. DryKirby64 (talk) 16:28, June 22, 2019 (EDT)
- I hope you don't mind, but I just wanted to bump my confirmation in case you missed it. DryKirby64 (talk) 16:02, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
- I'd like to confirm the change. DryKirby64 (talk) 16:28, June 22, 2019 (EDT)
Rename Request
Hi, I'd like to change my username to "Jaydyn" Jaydyndm (talk) 20:06, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
- As per SW:NAMECHANGE write back here in a few days to confirm. SerpentKing 09:22, July 2, 2019 (EDT)
Hey man, it's been a while.
I'd like to request all of my subpages except my infobox be deleted. I'm inactive now and have a lot of regrets about my immaturity, edit warring, self-obsession, informalities, ineptitude etc., and I'd just like to move on without feeling secondhand embarrassment from my own pages. Thank you. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 20:46, July 9, 2019 (EDT)
- Will that include your CSS and JS as well? SerpentKing 12:51, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- Hey sorry for the late reply, no it won't. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 19:43, July 24, 2019 (EDT)
- Or my user/infobox. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 20:06, July 24, 2019 (EDT)
Permission to recreate the Move List page
It was deleted back in March, but Template:SSBUMenus has a bunch of redlinks that have to be fixed, one of which was the aforementioned Move List page. I was going to start off with Move List, since most of the other redlinks are online things I don’t know about, but since you were the one who deleted it, I figured I should ask permission before recreating it. Lou Cena (talk) 04:32, July 15, 2019 (EDT)
- I'm not overly sure why I deleted that to be completely honest (maybe I thought it was going to be a complete list of special moves for the wiki which we have no use for). It should be created, but there is no need to copy all the game text verbatim. A brief description, screenshot, any errors in the list, and trivia should do. SerpentKing 15:18, July 15, 2019 (EDT)
Care to explain yourself?
First, before you block my IP due to "Memoryman sock nonsense", my internet makes a new IP everytime I turn it on, I don't even have a VPN installed to achieve this. If you really want to know who I am, I'm the other person who got upset at Zakawer2 a few months ago and then apologised. This site is so paranoid about memoryman that just even one person that SLIGHLTY resembles him is accused of being him. Pathetic. You can block me all you want, I don't intend on doing any edits on any articles anyway. Good-bye. --93.108.115.167 15:31, August 9, 2019 (EDT)
Rename Request
Hi, I'd like to change my username to "Krosshair" Snek (talk) 19:54, August 21, 2019 (EDT)
- As per SW:NAMECHANGE, please write back here in a few days to confirm. SerpentKing 19:30, August 23, 2019 (EDT)
Request for rollback
Hi if you don't mind are you able to check my rollback request? Supα Toαd 64, The Best 
21:37, August 25, 2019 (EDT)
- Sorry I was not able to get back to you in a timely manner on that. I've been on a semi-hiatus for a little while, but intend to be more active. SerpentKing 10:59, August 30, 2019 (EDT)
- It's alright I understand, in fact I'm on a semi-hiatus on Wikibound as well. On a side note my request was successful though :D. Also can I use your userbox? Supα Toαd 64, The Best
20:10, August 30, 2019 (EDT)
- It's alright I understand, in fact I'm on a semi-hiatus on Wikibound as well. On a side note my request was successful though :D. Also can I use your userbox? Supα Toαd 64, The Best
