Talk:Home stage

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For the Melee section, should the stages that unlockable characters are fought on be included? ReiDemon 11:53, 8 August 2011 (EDT)

No. It's not there home stage. Blindcolours NoPe 12:03, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
Actually, it can be considered as the character's home stage, just as the ASM stage they are fought in is. Mr. Anon (talk) 14:10, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
I also thought that way since both Ness and Falcon have their own homestages classified in Smash 64... ReiDemon 14:18, 8 August 2011 (EDT)

Home advantage

Is that section necessary? In nearly any case where a stage favours or disfavours the character for whom it is the home stage, it's purely coincidental. The only one that's not coincidental and written about is the Summit. Smiddle 君怒る? 13:03, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

The above is an old post, but it shares my sentiment. I find the home advantage section unnecessary, and it does not provide any useful information for the article. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:51, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

Master Hand?

In many Final Destination stages, it is said that Final Destination is Master Hand's home stage. Why is Master Hand not listed, then?--Meinfoo22 (talk) 19:02, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

As of now, only playable characters' home stages are listed on this page, but home stages of bosses could be added. Discussion would be required to determine whether bosses have home stages or not. Awesome Cardinal 2000 23:42, 13 July 2013 (EDT)

Smash 4 list

Not much to go off yet but in one video I saw of classic mode Duck Hunt's stage was the Nintnendogs one. Guybrush20X6 (talk) 20:48, 15 September 2014 (EDT)

Can you link to the video? Rtzxy Signature SmashBall.jpeg Smashing! 20:50, 15 September 2014 (EDT)
Pretty sure that for the purposes of Classic, characters just use a stage from their series. For characters like Duck Hunt and Wii Fit Trainer who lack a stage on 3DS, they use the miscellaneous stages like Find Mii, Living Room, and Tomodachi Life. Miles (talk) 21:33, 15 September 2014 (EDT)
Here's the video anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAZonnCTUik Guybrush20X6 (talk) 04:30, 16 September 2014 (EDT)

Mii Fighter

To my knowledge, Mii Fighters will only appear in Classic Mode as part of the Fighting Mii Team. Since the 3DS list seems to be defined by the stages they can appear on in Classic Mode, shouldn't the Mii Fighter be listed under Battlefield? --SnorlaxMonster 08:22, 1 November 2014 (EDT)

Now, wait a minute here...

The 3DS section bases the home stages on Classic Mode. And that's fine. But why should Wii U? There's absolutely no correlation between the stage chosen on Classic Mode and the characters fought (unless it's the rare occasion that it happens to be a coincidence).

So here's my theory. We make a list of all the stages that can appear in a certain era in All-Star Mode, and we say that that's their home stage, like so:

Character(s) Home stage(s)
Rosalina & Luma
Wii Fit Trainer
Shulk
Dark Pit
Robin
Lucina
Greninja
Coliseum
Kalos Pokémon League
Mario Galaxy
Skyworld
Wii Fit Studio

And so on. Now, this would just be exclusive to here; we'd leave the 3DS section and the stage pages alone. Thoughts? Changing the head icon used. No biggie.Aidan, Master of Speed and AuraPer Request, for User:Aidanzapunk. 15:17, 15 August 2015 (EDT)

I'm fine with this, but we may want to also take character unlocking sequences into account. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 15:25, 15 August 2015 (EDT)
It's kind of a mess either way. The way I see it, even if we were to go with an All-Star based listing like you suggest, it's really more like:
Character(s) Home stage(s)
Rosalina & Luma Mario Galaxy
Wii Fit Trainer Wii Fit Studio
Dark Pit Skyworld
Robin
Lucina
Coliseum
Greninja Kalos Pokémon League
...with Shulk along for the ride. This doesn't really resolve the issue either way per se, but it doesn't really seem accurate to just blindly use the All-Star chronological chunks as a single unit, since a lot of stages are omitted and many characters aren't matched to any. On the other hand, subdividing the groups like this still leaves some out. That's why I'm concerned about using All-Star as the sorting basis. Miles (talk) 15:36, 15 August 2015 (EDT)
Well, I believe we should at least be listing home stages based on a use of home stages. That said, it is kind of a mess either way. Isn't Dark Pit unlocked on Palutena's Temple? Nyargleblargle (Talk) 15:42, 15 August 2015 (EDT)
Yep. I agree there's not really an ideal way to go about it. My personal vote is to leave the table as is on this page and link to the All-Star table on its page, because frankly I can't think of a better way of handling it. Miles (talk) 16:21, 15 August 2015 (EDT)

Brawl Temple

Why doesn’t Brawl list Temple as a home stage for the Zelda characters?173.174.102.62 13:53, 19 August 2018 (EDT)

Prior to SSB4, Past Stages could not show up in modes like Classic, thus we don't count them. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan Leave a message if needed 13:54, 19 August 2018 (EDT)

Home stages in Ultimate

Since Ultimate has set paths for each character’s classic mode, does a section for it really need to exist? The closest thing to a use that section has is stating that R.O.B. is unlocked on Wrecking Crew, and that’s better mentioned on unlockable character. They don’t have a use for Classic Mode anymore, and All Star Mode is on any stage now. Lou Cena (talk) 03:48, July 5, 2019 (EDT) Lou Cena (talk) 03:48, July 5, 2019 (EDT)

Also, hate to resurrect a discussion from 8 years ago, but is the “Home Stage advantage” section necessary? As far as I know, nobody actually thinks that, and it’s not actually in the gameplay. Lou Cena (talk) 12:55, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
Bump. Adding the section for Super Smash Bros. for Wii U to ask if we need it, because Classic Mode uses any stage with any character, and All Star Mode doesn’t even use every home stage listed for each character, unless there’s a third use for them. Lou Cena (talk) 18:00, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
It's probably fine to leave it. Although the idea of a “Home Stage advantage” doesn't apply, Ultimate is more so listing which characters and stages belong to the same series. With the exception of R.O.B., which could be enough to leave the section alone. Wolff (talk) 18:16, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
If the purpose is to list which stages and characters belong in the same series for Wii U and Ultimate, then they feel unnecessary. The pages Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate convey that much better because the characters and stages will share a symbol with each other. The other games (including Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS do have a specific use for home stages in Classic Mode and All Star Mode, and past stages and Mushroom Kingdom were always coded to not be home stages, while Wii U and Ultimate just list which stages and characters are in the same series, minus R.O.B.’s being Wrecking Crew and a couple other characters not being unlocked in stages from their series. Also, the suggestion to remove the Home Stage advantage part was not specifically related to Ultimate, but rather because it’s an arbitrary thing that I’ve never seen suggested once outside of this wiki. Lou Cena (talk) 18:30, July 5, 2019 (EDT)

I do have to admit, the whole "fight this character on this stage" thing has kinda been phased out in games after Brawl... Aidan, the Rurouni 18:31, July 5, 2019 (EDT)

We should probably keep it in for Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS though. WFT and ROB both have no stages in 3DS (using stages without a fighter instead for Classic and All Star Mode), so the Home Stage section does have a valid use in that game. It’s just Wii U and Ultimate (plus that “Home Stage Advantage” section) that might have to be removed. Lou Cena (talk) 18:37, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
Aside from Duck Hunt in Wii U due to an update, I guess for Wii U & Ultimate can mention how it does not make a difference or that the idea seemed to have been dropped. Wolff (talk) 18:56, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
If the idea has been dropped, I’m not sure we even need a table for it. Lou Cena (talk) 19:01, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
Actually, it was the 3DS version to what I was referring to with Duck Hunt. And yes, a table probably would not be needed as it would just say along the lines of the characters fighting on their own series with R.O.B. being the only exception in Wii U and not present in Ultimate as you can choose the stage. Wolff (talk) 19:17, July 5, 2019 (EDT)

Bumping. Also, FYI Wolff, despite the title of this section, this isn’t just about removing Ultimate’s section from this page, but also about removing the sections for Wii U and the “Home Stage Advantage”. Lou Cena (talk) 15:40, July 8, 2019 (EDT)