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Daisy (SSBU)/Down special

Hitbox visualization showing Daisy's down special, Vegetable.

OverviewEdit

With Daisy's down special, plucks a Vegetable from Super Mario Bros. 2 from the ground. She can then throw it as a projectile item. Its face determines how much damage it will do; the rarer the expression, the stronger the turnip. Along with turnips, Daisy can rarely pull out Mr. Saturns and Bob-ombs.

It is a decent edgeguarding tool as it can disrupt an opponent's recovery. If the turnip bounces back on the opponent and the turnip is close to Daisy's hand, she can air grab the turnip and throw it back at the opponent.

In competitive play, it is common for Daisy players to use the down special at the start of the game. After KOing an opponent, they take advantage of the time interval for the opponent to get back on stage by using the down special until they get the desired item; if they do not have enough time, they will use the item they have.

Grin, Stare, Closed Eyes, Surprised, HappyEdit

Despite the different expressions the turnip has, they deal the same amount of damage and have the same knockback. The probabilities of pulling these turnips altogether is 89%.

Daisy can perform turnip combos such as turnip throw to a dash attack at low percentages. She can also perform zero-to-death combos with a turnip.[1]

WinkEdit

Turnip with the third strongest knockback with the maximum of 10% damage.

Dot-EyesEdit

Turnip with the second strongest knockback with the maximum of 16% damage.

Stitch-FaceEdit

The turnip with the strongest knockback with the maximum of 24% damage. It can KO the opponent at reasonable percentages.

Mr. SaturnEdit

The second rarest item to pull from the down special, Daisy can use Mr. Saturn as a shield breaking tool. The opponent can use it too if it is not in Daisy's hands.

Bob-ombEdit

The rarest item to pull from the down special, Daisy can kill the opponent at low percentages. The Bob-omb will not hurt her if she throws it unless she does not throw the Bob-omb. The Bob-omb can also hurt her if the opponent attacks Daisy holding it. However, if the opponent has a reflection move, the Bob-omb will hurt Daisy. To counter this, Daisy has to mix her timing to bait her opponent into reflecting.

Daisy can perform a combo with a Bob-omb by performing two down aerial while floating, then position herself to throw the Bob-omb onto the opponent. This can kill the opponent early at 0%.

Update HistoryEdit

  3.0.0

  •   Vegetable's knockback values have been adjusted (30 (base), 35 (scaling) → 25/45), making it identical to Peach's variant. This improves its combo potential at lower percents, and its KOing and gimping potential at higher ones.
    •   However, this limits the move's combo potential at higher percents.
  •   Vegetable deals less shield damage.

  3.1.0

  •   Vegetable has more ending lag (FAF 37 → 40).

HitboxesEdit

Each turnip type has a unique base damage defined in their parameters. Per the item throw damage formula, the effective damage of each item is equal to the following:

  • Turnips: base damage - 0.5 + throw speed * 2.5
  • Bob-omb: 25 - 0.4 + throw speed * 3
  • Mr. Saturn: 5 - 0.4 + throw speed * 1.5

TurnipEdit

ID Part Rehit rate Damage SD Angle Angle type BK KS FKV Set weight Radius Bone Offset SDI× T% Clang Rebound Effect Type G A Sound Direct Hit bits Hit part Blockable Reflectable Absorbable Flinchless No GFX Heedless
0 0 100 Variable -2.5   Speed-based 25 45 0   2.1 top 0.0 -1.0 0.0 0.8× 1.0× 0%               Shell   No stage All            

Bob-ombEdit

ID Radius Bone Offset G A
Searchbox
0 3.0 top 0.0 0.0 0.0    
ID Part Rehit rate Damage SD Angle Angle type BK KS FKV Set weight Radius Bone Offset SDI× T% Clang Rebound Effect Type G A Sound Direct Hit bits Hit part Blockable Reflectable Absorbable Flinchless No GFX Heedless
Explosion
0 0 0 25.0% 2.0   Standard 30 90 0   12.0 top 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5× 1.0× 0%               Bomb   No stage All            
1 0 0 25.0% 2.0   Standard 30 90 0   12.0 top 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5× 1.0× 0%               Bomb   No stage All            
Explosion when thrown
0 0 0 25.0% 2.0   Speed-based 30 90 0   12.0 top 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5× 1.0× 0%               Bomb   No stage All            
1 0 0 25.0% 2.0   Speed-based 30 90 0   12.0 top 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5× 1.0× 0%               Bomb   No stage All            

Mr. SaturnEdit

ID Part Rehit rate Damage SD Angle Angle type BK KS FKV Set weight Radius Bone Offset SDI× T% Clang Rebound Effect Type G A Sound Direct Hit bits Hit part Blockable Reflectable Absorbable Flinchless No GFX Heedless
0 0 0 5.0% 45.0   Speed-based 10 50 0   4.0 top 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.0× 1.0× 0%               Shell   No stage All            
1 0 0 5.0% 45.0   Speed-based 10 50 0   4.0 top 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.0× 1.0× 0%               Shell   No stage All            

TimingEdit

The move can only be used on the ground and if Daisy is not already holding an item.

Turnip generated 1
Interruptible 40
Animation length 61
                                                                                                                         
Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
 
Lag time
  
Prop event
 
Interruptible

ParametersEdit

MoveEdit

Active turnip limit 10
Chance of getting an item 1%
Relative odds of getting a Bob-omb 2 (0.4%)
Relative odds of getting a Mr. Saturn 3 (0.6%)

ItemEdit

These parameters only apply to turnips.

Lifetime 180 frames
Throw speed multiplier 0.805
Size multiplier 1.3
Base damage modifier for item throw damage -0.5
Multiplier to item throw speed for additional damage 2.5
Gravity 0.085
Falling speed 2.8
Friction 0.0025 (aerial)
0.03 (grounded)
Horizontal speed multiplier when bouncing off 0.2 (floor)
0.3 (wall)
0.5 (ceiling)
0.11 (target)
Vertical speed multiplier when bouncing off 0.55 (floor)
-0.1 (wall)
0.3 (ceiling)
0.11 (target)
Added vertical speed when bouncing off 1.3 (wall)
1.1 (target)
Minimum speed to bounce off terrain 0.2
Collision detection box half-lengths 3 (width)
2.5 (height)
Pickup detection box lengths 6 (width)
5 (height)
Effect when shielded Vanishes

Turnip differencesEdit

Parameter Turnip type
Grin Stare Closed eyes Surprised Happy Wink Dot-eyes Stitch-face
Base damage 5% 5% 5% 5% 5% 10% 16% 24%
Relative odds of appearing 35 6 5 3 3 4 1 1
Effective chance of appearing 60.35% 10.35% 8.62% 5.17% 5.17% 6.9% 1.72% 1.72%

ReferencesEdit

  1. ^ EOE (2019-01-31). Peach & Daisy 0-Death Combos (Landing Turnip) - Smash Ultimate. YouTube. Retrieved on 2022-11-30.