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*{{nerf|Vegetable has more ending lag (FAF 37 → 40).}} | *{{nerf|Vegetable has more ending lag (FAF 37 → 40).}} | ||
==Hitboxes== | ==Hitboxes== | ||
Each turnip type has a unique base damage defined in their parameters. Per the [[item throw]] damage formula, the effective damage of each item is equal to the following: | |||
*'''Turnips''': <code>base damage - 0.5 + throw speed * 2.5</code> | |||
*'''Bob-omb''': <code>25 - 0.4 + throw speed * 3</code> | |||
*'''Mr. Saturn''': <code>5 - 0.4 + throw speed * 1.5</code> | |||
===Turnip=== | ===Turnip=== | ||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
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|slvl=M | |slvl=M | ||
|direct=f | |direct=f | ||
|hitbits=No | |hitbits=No stage | ||
|reflectable=1 | |reflectable=1 | ||
}} | }} | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Bob- | |||
===Bob-omb=== | |||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableHeader}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Searchbox|24}} | |||
{{UltimateGrabboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|r=3.0 | |||
|bn=top | |||
|xpos=0.0 | |||
|ypos=0.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
}} | |||
|} | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}} | ||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Explosion|50}} | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | {{UltimateHitboxTableRow | ||
|id=0 | |id=0 | ||
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|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
|hitbits=No | |hitbits=No stage | ||
|reflectable=1 | |reflectable=1 | ||
|absorbable=1 | |absorbable=1 | ||
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|clang=f | |clang=f | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
|hitbits=No | |hitbits=No stage | ||
|reflectable=1 | |||
|absorbable=1 | |||
}} | |||
{{HitboxTableTitle|Explosion when thrown|50}} | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | |||
|id=0 | |||
|damage=25.0 | |||
|sd=2.0 | |||
|angle=361 | |||
|af=1 | |||
|bk=30 | |||
|ks=90 | |||
|fkv=0 | |||
|r=12.0 | |||
|bn=top | |||
|xpos=0.0 | |||
|ypos=0.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
|ff=0.5 | |||
|type=Explosive | |||
|effect=Flame | |||
|sfx=Bomb | |||
|slvl=H | |||
|direct=f | |||
|g=f | |||
|clang=f | |||
|rebound=f | |||
|hitbits=No stage | |||
|reflectable=1 | |||
|absorbable=1 | |||
}} | |||
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow | |||
|id=1 | |||
|damage=25.0 | |||
|sd=2.0 | |||
|angle=361 | |||
|af=1 | |||
|bk=30 | |||
|ks=90 | |||
|fkv=0 | |||
|r=12.0 | |||
|bn=top | |||
|xpos=0.0 | |||
|ypos=0.0 | |||
|zpos=0.0 | |||
|ff=0.5 | |||
|type=Explosive | |||
|effect=Flame | |||
|sfx=Bomb | |||
|slvl=H | |||
|direct=f | |||
|a=f | |||
|clang=f | |||
|rebound=f | |||
|hitbits=No stage | |||
|reflectable=1 | |reflectable=1 | ||
|absorbable=1 | |absorbable=1 | ||
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|g=f | |g=f | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
|hitbits=No | |hitbits=No stage | ||
|reflectable=1 | |reflectable=1 | ||
|af=1 | |af=1 | ||
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|a=f | |a=f | ||
|rebound=f | |rebound=f | ||
|hitbits=No | |hitbits=No stage | ||
|reflectable=1 | |reflectable=1 | ||
|af=1 | |af=1 | ||
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==Timing== | ==Timing== | ||
The move can only be used on the ground and if Daisy is not already holding an item. | |||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
!Turnip generated | !Turnip generated | ||
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{{FrameStripEnd}} | {{FrameStripEnd}} | ||
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|prop=y|interruptible=y}} | {{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|prop=y|interruptible=y}} | ||
==Parameters== | |||
===Move=== | |||
{|class="wikitable" | |||
!Active turnip limit | |||
|10 | |||
|- | |||
!Chance of getting an item | |||
|1% | |||
|- | |||
!Relative odds of getting a Bob-omb | |||
|2 (0.4%) | |||
|- | |||
!Relative odds of getting a Mr. Saturn | |||
|3 (0.6%) | |||
|} | |||
===Item=== | |||
These parameters only apply to turnips. | |||
{|class="wikitable" | |||
!Lifetime | |||
|180 frames | |||
|- | |||
!Throw speed multiplier | |||
|{{rollover|0.805|Coded as 0.7 for the item, them multiplied by 1.15|y}} | |||
|- | |||
!Size multiplier | |||
|1.3 | |||
|- | |||
!Base damage modifier for [[item throw]] damage | |||
| -0.5 | |||
|- | |||
!Multiplier to item throw speed for additional damage | |||
|2.5 | |||
|- | |||
![[Gravity]] | |||
|0.085 | |||
|- | |||
![[Falling speed]] | |||
|2.8 | |||
|- | |||
!Friction | |||
|0.0025 (aerial)<br>0.03 (grounded) | |||
|- | |||
!Horizontal speed multiplier when bouncing off | |||
|0.2 (floor)<br>0.3 (wall)<br>0.5 (ceiling)<br>0.11 (target) | |||
|- | |||
!Vertical speed multiplier when bouncing off | |||
|0.55 (floor)<br>-0.1 (wall)<br>0.3 (ceiling)<br>0.11 (target) | |||
|- | |||
!Added vertical speed when bouncing off | |||
|1.3 (wall)<br>1.1 (target) | |||
|- | |||
!Minimum speed to bounce off terrain | |||
|0.2 | |||
|- | |||
!Collision detection box half-lengths | |||
|3 (width)<br>2.5 (height) | |||
|- | |||
!Pickup detection box lengths | |||
|6 (width)<br>5 (height) | |||
|- | |||
!Effect when shielded | |||
|Vanishes | |||
|} | |||
====Turnip differences==== | |||
{|class="wikitable" | |||
!rowspan=2|Parameter!!colspan=8|Turnip type | |||
|- | |||
!Grin!!Stare!!Closed eyes!!Surprised!!Happy!!Wink!!Dot-eyes!!Stitch-face | |||
|- | |||
!Base damage | |||
|5%||5%||5%||5%||5%||10%||16%||24% | |||
|- | |||
!Relative odds of appearing | |||
|35||6||5||3||3||4||1||1 | |||
|- | |||
!Effective chance of appearing | |||
|60.35%||10.35%||8.62%||5.17%||5.17%||6.9%||1.72%||1.72% | |||
|} | |||
{{MvSubNavDaisy|g=SSBU}} | {{MvSubNavDaisy|g=SSBU}} | ||
[[Category:Daisy (SSBU)]] | [[Category:Daisy (SSBU)]] | ||
[[Category:Down special moves (SSBU)]] | [[Category:Down special moves (SSBU)]] |
Revision as of 23:01, June 17, 2022
Overview
Update History
- Vegetable's knockback values have been adjusted (30 (base), 35 (scaling) → 25/45), making it identical to Peach's variant. This improves its combo potential at lower percents, and its KOing and gimping potential at higher ones.
- However, this limits the move's combo potential at higher percents.
- Vegetable deals less shield damage.
- Vegetable has more ending lag (FAF 37 → 40).
Hitboxes
Each turnip type has a unique base damage defined in their parameters. Per the item throw damage formula, the effective damage of each item is equal to the following:
- Turnips:
base damage - 0.5 + throw speed * 2.5
- Bob-omb:
25 - 0.4 + throw speed * 3
- Mr. Saturn:
5 - 0.4 + throw speed * 1.5
Turnip
Bob-omb
ID | Radius | Bone | Offset | G | A | ||||||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Searchbox | |||||||||||||||||||||||
0 | 3.0 | top | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
Mr. Saturn
Timing
The move can only be used on the ground and if Daisy is not already holding an item.
Turnip generated | 1 |
---|---|
Interruptible | 40 |
Animation length | 61 |
Lag time |
Prop event |
Interruptible |
Parameters
Move
Active turnip limit | 10 |
---|---|
Chance of getting an item | 1% |
Relative odds of getting a Bob-omb | 2 (0.4%) |
Relative odds of getting a Mr. Saturn | 3 (0.6%) |
Item
These parameters only apply to turnips.
Lifetime | 180 frames |
---|---|
Throw speed multiplier | 0.805 |
Size multiplier | 1.3 |
Base damage modifier for item throw damage | -0.5 |
Multiplier to item throw speed for additional damage | 2.5 |
Gravity | 0.085 |
Falling speed | 2.8 |
Friction | 0.0025 (aerial) 0.03 (grounded) |
Horizontal speed multiplier when bouncing off | 0.2 (floor) 0.3 (wall) 0.5 (ceiling) 0.11 (target) |
Vertical speed multiplier when bouncing off | 0.55 (floor) -0.1 (wall) 0.3 (ceiling) 0.11 (target) |
Added vertical speed when bouncing off | 1.3 (wall) 1.1 (target) |
Minimum speed to bounce off terrain | 0.2 |
Collision detection box half-lengths | 3 (width) 2.5 (height) |
Pickup detection box lengths | 6 (width) 5 (height) |
Effect when shielded | Vanishes |
Turnip differences
Parameter | Turnip type | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Grin | Stare | Closed eyes | Surprised | Happy | Wink | Dot-eyes | Stitch-face | |
Base damage | 5% | 5% | 5% | 5% | 5% | 10% | 16% | 24% |
Relative odds of appearing | 35 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 1 |
Effective chance of appearing | 60.35% | 10.35% | 8.62% | 5.17% | 5.17% | 6.9% | 1.72% | 1.72% |
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Categories:
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- Indirect attacks
- Attacks with penalized shield damage
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- Explosive attacks (SSBU)
- Flame attacks (SSBU)
- Attacks with hitboxes that cannot clang
- Attacks with extra shield damage
- Absorbable attacks
- Weapon attacks (SSBU)
- Meteor smashes (SSBU)
- Daisy (SSBU)
- Down special moves (SSBU)