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{{disambig2|the technical definition of "spike"|information about the mechanic commonly incorrectly referred to as a spike|meteor smash}}{{for|the stage element|Spike (stage element)}}
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[[Image:Wizard's Foot Spike.png|thumb|An image of Ganondorf's spike, during [[Wizard's Foot]], in ''Melee''.]]
[[File:Wizard's Foot Spike.png|thumb|An image of Ganondorf's spike, during [[Wizard's Foot]], in ''Melee''.]]


A '''spike''' is an attack that sends the opponent downwards but cannot have its knockback interrupted via [[meteor cancel]]ling. As a result, they are significantly more dangerous than the similar [[meteor smash]]. They have similar effects to meteor smashes when performed on grounded opponents; for example, they also cannot be [[Crouch cancel|crouch-cancelled]].
A '''spike''' is an attack that sends the opponent downwards but cannot have its knockback interrupted via [[meteor cancel]]ling. As a result, they are significantly more dangerous than the similar [[meteor smash]]. They have similar effects to meteor smashes when performed on grounded opponents; for example, they also cannot be [[Crouch cancel|crouch-cancelled]].
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==Technical information==
==Technical information==
[[Image:MeteorSmashRange.png|thumb|Attacks with angles outside of this range are not recognized as meteor smashes, and if they hit below what is considered a semi-spike trajectory, they are spikes.]]
[[File:MeteorSmashRange.png|thumb|Attacks with angles outside of this range are not recognized as meteor smashes, and if they hit below what is considered a semi-spike trajectory, they are spikes.]]
In ''Melee'', hitboxes that send opponents at an angle between 260 and 280 degrees are recognized by the game as meteor smashes. However, there exist some hitboxes that send opponents downward, but at a diagonal trajectory outside this angle window (for example, 290 degrees). As a result, the game does not recognize them as meteor smashes, and are thus unable to be meteor cancelled.
In ''Melee'', hitboxes that send opponents at an angle between 260 and 280 degrees are recognized by the game as meteor smashes. However, there exist some hitboxes that send opponents downward, but at a diagonal trajectory outside this angle window (for example, 290 degrees). As a result, the game does not recognize them as meteor smashes, and are thus unable to be meteor cancelled.


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===Other spikes===
===Other spikes===
*{{SSBM|Dr. Mario}}'s up smash is a spike, but only on grounded opponents; aerial opponents are knocked vertically instead. The attack has an angle of 259, as close to the meteor detection window as it can get without being considered a meteor smash.
*{{SSBM|Dr. Mario}}'s up smash is a spike, but only on grounded opponents; airborne opponents are knocked vertically instead. The attack has an angle of 259, as close to the meteor detection window as it can get without being considered a meteor smash.
*{{SSBM|Master Hand}} and {{SSBM|Crazy Hand}} - The lower hitboxes of the Finger Drill and the Finger Walk are spikes designed to keep targets in place for the next part of the move.
*{{SSBM|Master Hand}} and {{SSBM|Crazy Hand}} - The lower hitboxes of the Finger Drill and the Finger Walk are spikes designed to keep targets in place for the next part of the move.
*[[Poké Ball]] Pokémon:
*[[Poké Ball]] Pokémon:
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**[[Clefairy]] - When Gust is used, the topmost part of the attack has a spike.
**[[Clefairy]] - When Gust is used, the topmost part of the attack has a spike.
**[[Ho-oh]] - The entire attack except the last hit involves two spikes of slightly different angles.
**[[Ho-oh]] - The entire attack except the last hit involves two spikes of slightly different angles.
*Runaway Tour Bus in [[Onett]].
* The Runaway Tour Bus in [[Onett]].
* Klaptrap on [[Jungle Japes]].


==Spikes in other games==
==Spikes in other games==
As noted prior, the angle window for meteor cancelling was widened in ''Brawl'' to cover the downward diagonal trajectory the spikes in ''Melee'' had. All downward attacks that were previously spikes in ''Melee'' are now able to be meteor canceled in ''Brawl'', and playable characters do not possess attacks that send opponents diagonally downwards outside the meteor cancelling window, as a result playable characters cannot perform spikes in ''Brawl''.
As noted prior, the angle window for meteor cancelling was widened in ''Brawl'' to cover the downward diagonal trajectory the spikes in ''Melee'' had. All downward attacks that were previously spikes in ''Melee'' are now able to be meteor canceled in ''Brawl'', and playable characters do not possess attacks that send opponents diagonally downwards outside the meteor cancelling window, as a result playable characters cannot perform spikes in ''Brawl''. Spikes still function like they do in ''Melee'' being impossible to meteor cancel. They can also [[lock]] floored opponents which meteor smashes cannot do in ''Brawl''.


Meteor cancelling does not exist in the original ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'', and was removed in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' and ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]'', meaning that all meteor smashes in said games are functionally equivalent to spikes. As a result, the two terms are often used interchangeably in competitive guides, though they are officially referred to as meteor smashes.
Meteor cancelling does not exist in the original ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'', and was removed in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', and it continues to be absent in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''. This makes all meteor smashes in ''Smash 64'' and ''Ultimate'' functionally equivalent to spikes. In ''Smash 4'' however, spikes cannot be teched by grounded opponents unlike with meteor smashes  although this distinction is no longer present in ''Ultimate'' due to grounded opponents losing the ability to tech meteor smashes. Additionally, spikes do not make the meteor smash hit sound effect when they connect. As a result of the lack of spikes outside of ''Melee'' (at least in competitive play), the two terms (spikes and meteor smashes) are often used interchangeably among competitive players, though they are officially referred to as meteor smashes.


In ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'', several [[boss]] and [[enemy]] hitboxes have angles such as -70 and -90, which appear to be intentional ways of circumventing the meteor smash recognition window for the former game, making such attacks spikes. As playable characters do not possess any such attacks, however, spikes are considered a removed element in such games.
In ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'', several [[boss]] and [[enemy]] hitboxes have angles such as -70 and -90, which appear to be intentional ways of circumventing the meteor smash recognition window for the former game, making such attacks act as spikes. As playable characters do not possess any such attacks, however, spikes are considered a removed element in such games. As an additional note, all meteor smashes in ''Smash 64'' use negative angles for their own meteor smashes.


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<!--There are actually some angles in some SSB4 characters' movesets that would be spikes in Brawl, but it's currently unknown what exactly the SSB4 meteor range is, so leave them out for now.-->
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*[[Rayquaza]] - start of digging and explosion attacks
*[[Rayquaza]] - start of digging and explosion attacks
*[[Ticken]] - ground pound attack (aerial portion)
*[[Ticken]] - ground pound attack (aerial portion)
===List of spikes by enemies and bosses in ''SSB4''===
===List of spikes by enemies and bosses in ''Smash 4''===
Note that at the present time, while most hitboxes are known, their associated moves may not be.
Note that at the present time, while most hitboxes are known, their associated moves may not be.
*[[Bonkers]]
*[[Bonkers]]
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