Smasher talk:Grim Tuesday

Wow, that was fast. I am notable in SA, considering I am in frequent contact with Jamage, Apollo, Gaganova, 2SXC/SA Dave and I frequently attend tournaments in the area. It's not like I have to be known all around my country to have this page is it? GrimTuesday (talk) 10:58, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Read NOTE, you'll see the criteria to be met to have a smasher article. I tagged the article as it has not provided the proof needed to prove notability and just saying you've been to tournaments isn't enough. As such, provide more information and links such as tournament placings. If an admin finds the information provided satisfactory to proving notability, they'll remove the notability tag. If not and researching the smasher in question doesn't bring up information proving the smasher's notability, the article will be deleted. Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 11:09, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Firstly...:
 * • Has participated in a tournament that is run by SBR rules (or a low-tier tournament) and has some level of regional or national recognition. I have participated in tournaments that are run by SBR rules and I have recognition in SA.
 * • Has contributed high-level content to recognized websites pertaining to Super Smash Brothers. This does not include forums or SmashWiki. I've done this on forums, so can I ask why they don't count?
 * Out of the tournaments I've been to, I haven't participated in a few of them, and the ones I did I didn't place in the top 5 or so, so I wasn't listed.
 * I can name 3 other Smasher pages that don't fit that criteria off the top of my head by the way. GrimTuesday (talk) 11:19, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * But does your smasher page say this? Your smasher page in its current state is that of a non notable smasher. As said before, anyone can say they've been to tournaments and such. I'm not calling you a lair, but it would be great if you could provide poof of your notability through links without me having to research you. As for high level content, that is a subjective criteria and I didn't create this policy, you'll have to ask someone else why forums don't count. As for your final statement, I'm fully aware that there are smasher articles of non notable smashers. But before you delete any smasher article, you have to research them (or ask someone else to) to see if they are notable and whoever created the article was just being lazy. Only those that are obviously not notable should be deleted without any research. Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 11:33, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe forums are exluded from notability because anyone can join a small/lesser-known Smash Bros. forum and become a top contributor without being known to the Smash Bros. community outside of that forum (SmashBoards might be an exception). "High-level content" I believe would include things like frame data, technique discovery, physics research, metagame development/documentation, and such. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] 11:52, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright then: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=10917629#post10917629 (StreetGeek Thread), http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=274467 (Reloaded Thread), http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=4608578&id=663677134&ref=fbx_album (Picture of me at Reloaded). Are those enough, or should I delete the article?


 * Edit: Missed Toomai's message. I have written a very in-depth character guide for Master Hand with frame data, playstyle information, etc... I think that counts... GrimTuesday (talk) 11:42, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure written a guide on a glitch character that shouldn't be allowed in tournaments counts as high level content, but according to our notability guidelines, you seem notable enough. However, you should add this information to your smasher page and while for some reason these threads only showed the top 8 finishers, you could still mention your placement in these tournaments (I assume you remember). Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 12:03, August 8, 2010 (UTC)