User talk:Daniel1204/Archive 2

Stop making pages you can't finish
Please stop making pages you can't finish. You made moveset pages for Byleth, Kirby and Joker's getup attacks and Final Smash but you only gave a brief description of each with a hitbox visual. This is not enough to warrant making an entire page for them. You need to provide one of three things or more : A complete competitive overview, hitbox data and/or frame data. If you can't only provide an obvious description of the animation and the hitbox gifs that I made, it doesn't warrant a new page. I don't want to come clean up behind you every time and this time, unlike with Mario, I won't and I'll ask for deletion of those pages. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 00:41, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
 * I am very, very, very, very, very, sorry... It won’t happen again. SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 01:26, April 28, 2020 (EDT)

Sonic universe page
What exactly are you attempting to do? Aidan, the Rurouni  15:27, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
 * Someone wants the page to be moved to Sonic the Hedgehog (universe). I tried following the request, but there was a redirect page of the same name, so I tried moving it, or making it blank. I apologize. What should I do? SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 15:29, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
 * That is the current title.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  15:30, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
 * What? SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 15:31, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
 * Basically, an IP put the tag up, not realizing that was already the name of the page. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer  (talk) 16:16, April 28, 2020 (EDT)

Woah, woah
I know the tag's already there, but you can't make that big of a change (i.e. Name change of a major universe) without discussing it first. You should brush up on CONSENSUS. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer (talk) 15:58, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
 * Look man, you were a little too late to tell me that. SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 12:58, April 30, 2020 (EDT)

[User:Son_Daniel/ARMS_Fighter_(SSBU)_Draft|Woah Woah Woah.]
There is already a draft on this wiki that you are making. The original draft that I am making was created before your version was made. Just a small reminder. S3AHAWK ( talk ) 02:18, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Hey, chill out, man (if you’re angry)! All I wanted was to make a draft. I didn’t think it was wrong to make my own version. SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 02:21, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * OWN: No article belongs to a particular user and there's no rule about plagarism. Anyone can make a draft in their userpage so let's keep things calm. That said if someone already made a draft it's best to use theirs instead of making a second one. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]]  OmegαToαd64 •  the Best Kαrter  02:31, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Sorry, that “own” word was a habit... SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 02:32, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * The Ownership policy was geared towards both of you, not necessarily because you said "my own draft", there's nothing wrong with saying that. Bottom line is:


 * @S3AHAWK: Although you made the draft first, keep in mind drafts are prone to being plagiarized. However we don't have a rule against plagarism. Remember to also keep AGF in mind.


 * @Son Daniel: It's fine to make your own draft but if you know someone already made one use theirs instead. Drafts are intended for anyone to edit as with a mainspace article, and having two of the same drafts can be difficult.


 * @Both users: Please keep the peace on this matter. The draft that better fits the wiki standards will be mainspaced, however please do not try to "compete" to make a better one, that will only prove to be counterproductive. Thank you [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]]  OmegαToαd64 •  the Best Kαrter  02:54, May 14, 2020 (EDT)

One question
To settle on the argument, do you want to merge our pages? Just curious. S3AHAWK ( talk ) 02:59, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Not Son Daniel but yes merging them is the most productive way to go as only one or the other can be mainspaced, I intended to suggest merging in my initial comment but forgot somehow. However I would still wait for Son Daniel's opinion before making any changes. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]]  OmegαToαd64 •  the Best Kαrter  03:08, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Ok. S3AHAWK S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.pngS3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png ( talk ) 04:18, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Yeah sure! That’d be great! Though I wanted to keep that version for reasons not relating to the wiki, but hey! It works! What can I do to help merge those two? Also, users can just call me Daniel. Son is kinda meant to be a last name. SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 12:41, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Ok, I'll ask Aiden. S3AHAWK S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.pngS3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png ( talk ) 14:48, May 14, 2020 (EDT)

The FINAL question
I already asked an admin about the merge and which one should be deleted, mine or yours? We can both put the new draft on our userpages, right. S3AHAWK ( talk ) 15:14, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Which one do you think is better? SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 17:38, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * I mean, I don't mind too much. I wish the best for the wiki and its readers. SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 17:43, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Here is the deal, we will have part of our sources duplicated, my page will have Attributes, Role in World of Light, Spirits, Alternate costumes, Reveal trailer, and References copied. You will have the Fighter infobox and the sentences next to it, the entire Moveset part, In Competitive Play, Classic Mode, Spirit Battles, Gallery and Trivia copied. That sounds like a plan. S3AHAWK S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.pngS3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png ( talk ) 17:52, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Alright! If that works for ya! SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 17:54, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * I will make the new version of the draft and ask Aiden to delete both our pages soon. S3AHAWK S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.pngS3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png ( talk ) 17:56, May 14, 2020 (EDT)

(Indent restarted) Actually, I'll ask the owner of the wiki (Porplemontage). He's available right now. SonDaniel (talk page) 18:01, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
 * Just for future tips you don't necessarily need to ask the developer for a request that an admin can do. Just simply tag the soon-to-be deleted page using the speedy delete template for an admin to soon delete it. Also @S3AHAWK you could also have moved the original page to the new title instead of creating a new one. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]]  OmegαToαd64 •  the Best Kαrter  18:26, May 14, 2020 (EDT)

Userboxes
Hi Daniel, sorry to annoy you but can I share my userbox with you to show that people share their userboxes? just curious. S3AHAWK ( talk ) 16:56, May 16, 2020 (EDT)
 * Wait, you can share userboxes? How do you do that? SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 22:42, May 16, 2020 (EDT)
 * This is my stupid explanation but just go to my page and look at the source and Ctrl+C and when you go to your userboxes on your page just Ctrl+V on your page. S3AHAWK S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.pngS3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png ( talk ) 22:47, May 16, 2020 (EDT)
 * Yes userboxes can be shared. Just go to their page and edit the section with their userbox, then find the source code and copy it onto your userpage. For example here's my userbox code:


 * I don't think you need to ask permission first if you want their userbox but sometimes you can I guess. 001Toad.jpg  OmegαToαd64 •  the Best Kαrter  22:52, May 16, 2020 (EDT)


 * Oh! I see! Why do want show people that they can share userboxes? SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 22:50, May 16, 2020 (EDT)
 * And I still don’t know what they’re for. Also SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 22:53, May 16, 2020 (EDT)
 * They're mostly stuff for fun as far as I know. 001Toad.jpg  OmegαToαd64 •  the Best Kαrter  22:56, May 16, 2020 (EDT)

< Hmmmmmmmm
Please put new reports on the top of the section of the Admin noticeboard. Thanks. S3AHAWK ( talk ) 20:04, May 18, 2020 (EDT)
 * Oh, so that’s how you do it! SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 22:43, May 18, 2020 (EDT)
 * yeah. S3AHAWK S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.pngS3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png ( talk ) 22:44, May 18, 2020 (EDT)

This edit summary
Your edit summary says that this type of terminology for trivia is fine as you claim to have seen the word used in a lot of pages.

Thing is, the reason why that may be the case is likely due to those pages (or at the very least, their trivia sections) not given any attention for these terms to be caught.

On this page, you will find that such words are discouraged in most situations, as they break this Wiki's Manual of Style.

Hope you understand and have a nice day. SuperSmashTurtles of the  Turtle Tribe  14:37, May 25, 2020 (EDT)
 * Wait, what? That was discouraged?! By the way, I did interestingly on a lot of points. Knowing what you said, would that be bad? SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 14:46, May 25, 2020 (EDT)
 * I don't think it's anything block-worthy, but it's highly recommended you try to avoid such terms as much as possible on the mainspace. SmashTurtlesSig1.png SuperSmashTurtles of the  Turtle Tribe SmashTurtlesSig2.png 14:50, May 25, 2020 (EDT)

Removing minor universe symbols for tables
(I archived this conversation impulsively. OmegaToad64 brought it back to finish the conversation, and afterward, it was archived again.)

Mii Costume, Alternate costume (SSB4)/Mii Fighter, and Alternate costume (SSBU)/Mii Fighter all omit the minor universe symbol for the tables. I know that it's required for infoboxes, but I don’t believe it’s required for tables (correct me if I’m wrong). Personally, I would rather omit it for tables, as said symbol is not even used for minor universes. 72.203.118.154 15:44, May 26, 2020 (EDT)
 * Well, why do you think we have universe symbols? All symbols are required to tell readers which universe that representative belongs to, so we should include it in the tables. Readers may be confused if they don’t see a symbol with the representative item’s name. Including the minor universe symbol would tell them that the universe is minor and therefore, may not be represented by a fighter.
 * Mii Costume, Alternate costume (SSB4)/Mii Fighter, and Alternate costume (SSBU)/Mii Fighter all omit the minor universe symbol for the tables. No offense, but that might’ve been a mistake. Sorry if you feel that way anyway... SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 15:56, May 26, 2020 (EDT)
 * (Just letting you know talk pages should be archived if they reach over 36k bytes not because it has over 10 sections. Also do not archive to cut off ongoing discussions)


 * Time I step in. While yes some tables don't use the minor universe symbol, at the same time having no symbol looks inconsistant with the other universes listed in the tables. I've created a discussion on series symbol to decide if they should be used so please leave things alone and discuss there to resolve this instead of edit warring. 001Toad.jpg  OmegαToαd64 •  the Best Kαrter  16:23, May 26, 2020 (EDT)


 * I apologize for archiving this ongoing conversation. I did wait for a reply, but then I just thought the IP wasn’t going to answer. SonDaniel SonDanielSignatureHead1.pngSonDanielSignatureHead2.png (talk page) 19:37, May 26, 2020 (EDT)