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Actually, wouldn't it be more appropriate to have a (better-quality) gen 4 pic for Vine Whip? Its appearance in Smash being exclusive to Brawl means it's based on that era. Miles ( talk)  13:29, 28 May 2016 (EDT)
 * ...SK, you probably should've checked the talk page on this one. :v Miles ( talk)   04:32, 29 May 2016 (EDT)
 * I get what you're saying, but Pokémon moves don't change much conceptually between generations (Vine Whip has always been what it is, even considering the old episodes of the animated series) so I don't think the generation an image is from is really relevant, as long as it's high quality. -Menshay (talk) 08:17, 29 May 2016 (EDT)
 * I disagree. We should stay as relevant to the series as possible. Since SSBB Ivysaur Vine Whip is based on Gen 4, it should stay Gen 4. Now if, say, the next smash comes out and it has vine whip gen 6, then I would agree with updating it. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   14:23, 29 May 2016 (EDT)

Neutral leaning towards keep per both the tag and the appearance at Brawl's release. Nyargle blargle'''  (Contribs) 16:42, 29 May 2016 (EDT)
 * I honestly think all Pokémon move images should consistently be updated to the latest generation. The reason why is because as the gameplay is getting more and more 3D, the moves are looking how they actually should, as opposed to the sprite gens of I-V, where it's just a still sprite attack that isn't very descriptive at all. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  02:21, 30 May 2016 (EDT)
 * That's a kind of faulty argument, since generations 1-4 also had 3D games on the home consoles that could be used. Miles ( talk)   02:36, 30 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Well yes, but we also have to take into account the fact that Gen V didn't have a 3D game (that I recall). My biggest problem with inconsistent generations is, well, it's inconsistent. Yes, Ivysaur's Vine Whip is based on Gen IV Vine Whip, but as was said earlier, moves don't change much, if at all, between generations and having all screenshots coming from one generation is clean, consistent, and, again, much easier to tell what they are. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  02:52, 30 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Not sure what you mean there. From both images, I can very clearly tell that they are vine whip. The generation they are from is also not difficult to figure out.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  03:00, 30 May 2016 (EDT)
 * To be more clear, not all moves are clear. In fact, most are even carbon copies of sprite design or are so generic it hurts. Vine Whip may not be like that, but that doesn't mean every other move in Smash is clear in said games. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  03:05, 30 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Wouldn't it be more important to use a contemporary image in the cases where it's appropriate? Also, there's no context at present where we would need a gen 5 origin image, so that's a moot point. Miles ( talk)   04:26, 30 May 2016 (EDT)

My current feeling is replace both with a Gen 4 home console image, if at all possible. Nyargle blargle'''  (Contribs) 20:50, 4 June 2016 (EDT)