Forum:Smash Arena/Archive 2

Week 6: Kirby vs. Meta Knight
{|style="width:100%;" size=5>Winner!! Kirby  10½ to 7½
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Votes for Kirby

 * 1) All I will say is: Kirbycide. Miles (talk - contribs) 21:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Sigh, so easy to explain under Miles. He makes it so easy. (Kirby is still better than high-on-steroids MK.  At he's not banned in Italy!)  Fried  beef  1    Argue   22:57, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) That face cheers me up. Solar flute (talk)
 * 4) I main him and I'm THE KING of Kirby. Para Goomba 348 (C'mon, just eat turkey ) 05:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Meta Knight is an emo. Kirby is cheery. I know who I'm going for. -- Pikabro PIKA  CHU!  07:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Kirby's Hammer is one of the best moves in the game. Go the pink puffball! -- Toon Ganondorf CHAT  07:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) pink marshmallow --Shadow crest 21:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) Kirby will forever pwn Meta-Knight. He is that powerful. Behold the puffball! SapphireKirby777 (talk) 13:58, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) All should worship the magestic marshmallow. All should give him melon and chocolate, and then we give him cake. And then We SHOULD sing the kirby theme song from the anime. KIRBY FOREVER! Learner4 (talk) 21:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) Meta Knight is a cheap ass. Kirby is the definition of my childhood and my main in all the games. Pretty easy choice here. '''METEORITE (t) 21:31, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

 * 1) Kirby has defeated Meta Knight numerous times in the Kirby series. Also, it is fun to use Kirbycide on wi-fi on with anyone. ;p


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Votes for Meta Knight

 * 1) Meta Knight is BAD***! He is almost as awsome as Captain Falcon, he is also cheap, which I love! --User:Mudkipz (talk) 22:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Kirby, "come back when you can put up a fight." Masterman   Eat   Turkey!  22:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Kirby has much yet to learn. Oh, and Friedbeef, MK's legal in Italy. That was just a rumor. -  GalaxiaD  Talk 00:32, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) A deadly swordsman versus a pink puffball. I know who I choose. Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  01:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Meta Knight is way better than Kirby. Kirby is a character who needs to spam his Rock and his Hammer. It is unfair. Meta Knight is cooler, has better special attacks and a great voice (not as great as Marth's one but great ^^) Metalink187 (talk) 19:34, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Kirby's the pink fluffball.  Ike's Best Buddy  Great Aether!  21:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Rawr. Smore King  Hap py Holidays!  22:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

 * 1) Mety is better.72.197.63.163 02:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)p@W


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Comments
Fried beef1... MK ISNT BANNED IN ITALY! IT'S A RETARDED RUMOR! Masterman  Eat   Turkey!  23:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you don't have to use CAPITAL LETTERS when you talk... It can hurt other people's feelings and it's like you're shouting at them. (I didn't know about the Italy thing. I read that part, like, 3 months ago.  Didn't know that's a rumor...)  Fried  beef  1    Argue   01:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. Force of habit. Masterman  Eat   Turkey!  03:17, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

That's ok. Fried beef  1    Argue   18:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Metalink187, Kirby doesn't need to spam his stone and hammer in order to win. If you say that, then Meta Knight isn't so innocent either (multiple jumps, most special moves can recover, can glide...). MK is clearly overbuffed. Fried beef  1    Argue   23:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC) If you want to KO someone with MetaKnight, you can knock him/it "normally", do a Star KO with repeated Uair, push him off the stage far away and come back safety or even use your Up special against edgehoggers. MetaKnight has many way to KO so it is useless to spam especially some attacks. Kirby needs to do it, since he cannot KOed enemies like MK.Metalink187 (talk) 13:51, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

10.5 to 6.5, Kirby favor. Vote guys! Fried beef  1    Argue   23:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Aw man, MK's gonna lose. :( -  GalaxiaD  Talk 22:13, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

This battle ends Friday night, US Central time. Miles ( talk)  23:13, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

WHAAAAAAH! I didn't see this! I couldn't vote! linkpwns. so does kirby!  00:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


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Week 7: Ness vs. Lucas
{|style="width:100%;" size=5>Winner!! Lucas  12 to 16½
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 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|The heroes of Mother games have come to the Arena! Each psychic boy brings their powers to the fight, but whose are stronger?
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Votes for Ness

 * 1) PK Flash > PK Freeze. Miles ( talk)   20:38, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) I never heard of lucas outside of smash bros. Solar flute (talk)
 * 3) Kirby looks better with a hat, not hair. Smore King  Hap py Holidays!  21:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) PSI Magnet, PK Thunder, PK Fire... Ness wins by default. Not to mention his "bee" costume. Para Goomba 348  23:57, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Really... Earthbound was the best game ever (I'm sure Paragoomba agrees), Lucas was unheard of until SSBB, and what else?!?!?!?!?! Baseball bat > stick!  Ness was here since the beginnning, and he's gonna stay till the end!  Fried  beef  1    Argue   00:12, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) PK Flash> PK Freeze, Baseball Bat > Stick, Baseball Cap > Hair 'Nuff Said  Ike's Best Buddy  Great Aether!  18:37, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Ness had a way better game than Lucas. Besdides, his Yo-Yo owns Yo! (Yes, You can shoot me for that!)--User:Mudkipz (talk) 16:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) 1.) Ness has an over-all better appearance. 2.) His attacks are faster and moar versatile. 3.) Lucas is the stupidest, most dumbest looking character ever spawned. If it were up to me, Lucas wouldn't have even been considered for Brawl let alone have his own game. 4.) Ness has better killing attacks, believe it or not. 5.) Lucas is a coward. He'll run away from the timiest object, be it living or inanimate. In all summation, Ness>Lucas http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif Koopa  Claus  http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif 08:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) whos Lucas? I didnt know he was in brawl. JtM =^&#93; (talk) 03:31, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) I vote NEss, because it looks like he's losing. Also, what's with that first guy's line?  "PK LOVE beats yo-yo"?  You DO realize that Lucas can equip Yo-yos as well, right?  Also, Ness knows PK Rockin', which could balance out PK Love.  Ness is pretty strong in his own rights, you know, seeing as he wields a bat (have you ever been hit with a bat?  It hurts...). - BattleFranky202 (talk) 05:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) Ness. he's 1. the original mother character in smash, 2. he's waaaay more fashionable than Lucas, and 3. he actually resembles a boy. Xtrme   Silver   and Gold!  04:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Ness is just better, okay?

Anonymous Votes

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Votes for Lucas

 * 1) Yeah, well PK Love (up smash) is way better than a yoyo. -- Toon Ganondorf CHAT  20:39, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) You guys are all gonna vote for Ness because you never played this chap's game. Get the Fan Translation, it's not that hard. Smash wise, Ness, but popularity wise, Lucas - he's unique, he has a personality and he has a Power Glove. ''' METEORITE (t) 20:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Ultimate Face-pwnage attack! Go Lucas! -- Pikabro PIKA  CHU!  21:19, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Lucas is bullied by users. I think he merits a win. -- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  21:20, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Lucas has a dog that actually cares about him, unlike Ness and King. That means? PK Starstorm is dumb, Boney is Lucas' new Final Smash! --Jackton (talk) 21:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Lucas is great. --<font color="Steelblue">Shadow <font color="Steelblue">crest  21:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Lucas is hardcore to still be okay after what happened to his mom and bro,I VOTE THIS DUDE! User:R.I.V.U.X.
 * 8) Lucas will win easy, he owns. Go Lucas!!!-- Mystery Heff  TALK  22:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) I pwned Masterman as lucas, so definitely him. linkpwns.  so does kirby!  00:22, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) That's cause I was Captain Falcon. I use him for fun.(although he is one of my best fun chars...) Masterman   Eat   Turkey!  01:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) What TG said in vote one. <font face="verdana" size="2"> Baltro [  talk  ] 01:08, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Lucas use REAL powers in his Smash Attacks, unlike Ness who use a... yoyo... >< Lucas also has better aerial attacks (Fair and Dair I love). However, his FS is worse than Ness' one. So I vote for Lucas ! ^^Metalink187 (talk) 10:37, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) Ness is okay, but Lucas has a better recovery, a faster dash, and his U-Smash pwns. Lucas FTW. - <font face="times new roman"> GalaxiaD <font face="times new roman"> Talk 19:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) Lucas is a PK-owner! PK Love FTW! <font face="Marker Felt" color="FFD700">BEN!
 * 15) Lucas is MUCH better than Ness. <font face="old englist text mt" size="2"> SapphireKirby777 (talk) 19:00, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) Just compare Ness and Lucas' up smashes! -Willneverbeapro (talk) 04:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

 * 1) He is Blond!!!72.197.63.163 01:34, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


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Comments
Uh Jackton, for us ignorant Mother 3 people, who's Boney? Fried beef  1    Argue   00:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You haven't played Mother 3? Why don't you play it now with the fan translation? Boney's the pet dog of the Lucas, the same way King is the pet dog for Ness. ''' METEORITE (t)
 * Oh, ok. I didn't get the time to play Mother 3, so I didn't know.  Thanks.  Fried  beef  1    Ho ho ho!   23:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I had a feeling you all would vote for Lucas. Bunch o' softies, that's what you are! http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif<font style="font-family:arial black;"> Koopa  Claus  http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Mariogamr/Sigs/189cca7d1.gif 08:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL At Wacky's vote! xD <font style="font-family:arial black;"> Koopa [[Image:Koopersshell.gif|19px]]  Klaus  03:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, Squalliona...Over 25 points. This is BIG! SapphireKirby777

is masterman's one even a vote? linkpwns. so does kirby!  00:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Yesh it is. Mas <font color="Black">ter <font color="Blue">man <font color="Green">What's the matter?   <font color="Brown">Scared?  02:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

OMG, Lucas just might win! -- I'm not competitive ! (<font color="Brown">I'm talkative! <font color="Black">TALK TO ME!!! ) 04:10, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

WOAH! There's exactly 5 1/2 months of fights(Based on a 4 week month)... No wonder there's a 'no more suggestions'

Um, is there a reason for the "He is blonde." thing for Lucas? SapphireKirby777 (talk) 18:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That is the reason. - <font face="times new roman"> GalaxiaD <font face="times new roman">  (Happy Holidays!)  20:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not fair! <font style="font-family:arial black;"> Koopa [[Image:Koopersshell.gif|19px]]  Klaus  21:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's IP addresses for ya. If no more votes come in today, Lucas will be the victor.  Miles ( talk)   22:01, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * -tries to get moar votes- <font style="font-family:arial black;"> Koopa [[Image:Koopersshell.gif|19px]]  Klaus  22:03, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


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Week 8: Icicle Mountain vs. Mushroomy Kingdom
{|style="width:100%;" size=5>Winner!! Mushroomy Kingdom  12½ to 8
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Votes for Icicle Mountain

 * 1) The Ice Climbers are underappreciated. Miles ( talk)   20:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) The ice one! Nah, JK. It has more originality. Mas <font color="Black">ter <font color="Blue">man  <font color="Green">What's the matter?   <font color="Brown">Scared?
 * 3) I've always admired ice levels. The music, the difficulty. But this one wins because it moves vertically. Horizontal is BOOOORRRINNNGG! But I still love the MK. <font style="font-family:arial black;"> Koopa [[Image:Koopersshell.gif|19px]]  Klaus  22:03, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) This one's harder (I think). Solar flute (talk)
 * 5) @Squallinoa, there's a reason it's called MushroomY Kingdom. Fried  beef  1    Ho ho ho!   01:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Ice stages ftw. --<font face="vivaldi" size="3"><font color="Steelblue">Shadow <font color="Steelblue">crest  21:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) vertical stages are WAAAAAAYYYY less annoying. linkpwns. so does kirby!  20:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) Icicle mountain, because it takes a human to play it. Even a computer can trump Mushroomy Kingdom, but I've out-jumped a lv. 9 Falco with Bowser on IM.--Meta-K (talk) 00:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

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Votes for Mushroomy Kingdom

 * 1) Do the Mario! This stage has more history than Icicle Mountain. I like this stage. SapphireKirby777 (talk) 20:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) What kind of Mario fan would I be if I didn't vote for World 1-1/1-2? Not only was this the start of one of the most well-known games in Gaming History, but it was the debut of Mario (in platforming play; his first appearance was as Jumpman in Donkey Kong), and the debut of one of the most well-know Video Game Theme Songs ((known officially as Mario's Theme) in Video Game History.  Mario Galaxy  Death has a price.  I've paid it...  22:11, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) This stage is better then Icicle Mountain, nuff said. Neo Metal Sonic 23:26, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Dun Dun Duuuuun! Para  Goomba  348  01:53, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) I've never played Melee  Ike's Best Buddy Merry! Christmas!! 
 * 6) This stage goes UNDERGROUND! Plus, the music is better. Smore King  Hap py Holidays!  14:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Better music, better idea, and isn't impossible to fight on.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 19:46, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) Where did that ice arena come from?? This stage is a LEGENDARY STAGE! FROM A LEGENDARY GAME! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 01:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) My vote would have been swayed on the fact I've never played Melee, so that's unfair. Instead, let's look at it differently...global warming. Heh, Icicle Mountain would be melted to mere nothingness whilst the Mushroomy Kingdom will come out virtually unscathed since its a wasteland anyway. Plus the Mushroomy Kingdom appears to stand the test on time in two ways (one because the stage is a retro relic, and two, even after being ruined, the Mushroom Kingdom still lives on in its Brawl form.) --&lt;(o_^&lt;) Jackton (&gt;^_o)&gt; (talk) 11:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) I don't believe in "global warming", but I still vote this stage for its fun and history. - <font face="times new roman"> GalaxiaD <font face="times new roman">  (Happy Holidays!)  20:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) I love the underground. But still, this place is a pain, it DOES have a small blast line. Learner4 (talk) 21:32, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Good old memories... Don't you remember the first Super Mario Bros. ? It's an incredible game ! I think this game is the most-played game in the world ^^ So I vote for the never-gets-old Kingdom. I also love the "y" in "Mushroomy". It makes the name lovely *o* Metalink187 (talk) 21:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

 * 1) Much better stage and you actually know which way the screen will scroll the whole time, making it better for brawls. this stage is better 72.197.63.163 17:01, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


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Comments
As a side note, what do people think about having stages in the Arena like this? Miles ( talk)  22:31, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I like the variety. The series has so many items, characters, stages, bosses, and enemies to choose from and I don't like concentrating solely on characters when we have so many other choices. Solar flute (talk)

You finally took my advice, eh Solar Flute? <font style="font-family:arial black;"> Koopa   Klaus  20:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Solar Flute summed it up pretty well. (By the way, you can't see half of Cheez's username on the 'Shroomy Kingdom side) Fried  beef  1    Ho ho ho!   02:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure, stages are far more interesting to pit against each other every once in a while; people easily sum up a character's weaknesses versus the other, but it's harder to define those weaknesses when it comes to stages and, as Solar Flute said, even items. Anyway, I never played Icicle Mountain before, is it like Brawls Rumble Falls (or the Glacial Peak in The Subspace Emissary? --&lt;(o_^&lt;) Jackton (&gt;^_o)&gt; (talk) 11:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Think Rumble Falls, but with ice, more variation in scrolling speed, and it also can sometimes scroll down. There's also times when it scrolls up about twice as fast as Rumble Falls's "SPEED UP".  Miles ( talk)   16:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * WHA...?! Faster than Rumble Fall's "Speed up"? Is that even...possible? Sounds somewhat unplayable. Like, Rumble Falls, you spend most of the time trying to survive over actually fighting. The Mushroomy Kindgom travels at a much more relaxed pace... Oh, @ GalaxiaD's vote, I don't believe in global warming either (well, at least the part where it's our fault), but I needed something to base my vote on :p --&lt;(o_^&lt;) Jackton (&gt;^_o)&gt; (talk) 20:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I thought Summit had to do with global warming. Solar flute (talk)
 * It's a pun, Solar Flute, a pun. http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/commercials/images//4/4c/Slap.gif No cookies for you. <font face="Elephant"> Koopa Claus <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 00:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

It's a good idea to have stage fights. But ultimately as I said, it's a popularity contest too! So like, people are deciding which stage is better or whats their favorite SSB stage of all time! We should have more fights like these someday. Squallinoa 08 (talk) 01:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

how do stages even fight? what a bad suggestion. linkpwns. so does kirby!  20:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Please don't flame. - <font face="times new roman"> GalaxiaD <font face="times new roman">  (Happy Holidays!)  00:42, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * And please learn how to use grammar correctly. <font face="Elephant"> Koopa Claus <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 00:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


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Week 9: Bowser vs. Squirtle
{|style="width:100%;" size=5>Winner!! Squirtle  17 to 8½
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Votes for Bowser

 * 1) Bowser would crush the tiny Squirtle with Bowser Bomb. Also, he has a whole army of Koopas to back him up, while Squirtle only has his Pokémon cheerleader on the side. -- Gutripper  Speak if you are worthy 21:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Bowser is at least twice the size of Squirtle, and his fire would roast the little blue guy. Roast turtle, hmm, I wonder if the French have started eating them yet...-- Toon Ganondorf  CHAT  23:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Bowser's lust for battle is unsateable. A warning for all entrants to the Smash Arena; Mario got lucky, no one else shall! -- Pikabro  PIKA  CHU!  23:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Bowser is an unstoppable beast, full of rage and carnage. Poor Squirtle can't win. :( - <font face="times new roman"> GalaxiaD  <font face="times new roman">  (Happy Holidays!)  02:48, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) @Squallinoa: Yes.  Ike's Best Buddy  Merry! Christmas!! 
 * 6) As Squirtle cowers in fear inside his shell, Bowser picks him up and tosses him away. :D -Masq (talk) 05:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) bowser could just step on the turtle. Plus, hydro pump would so lose to giga bowser. Solar flute (talk)
 * 8) Bowser! Feel the burn, Squirtle!  The Steel Avenger   <small style="color:Firebrick">Taste my cold steel! 

Anonymous Votes

 * 1) I love Bowser! He rulz!


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Votes for Squirtle

 * 1) Squirtle all the way! How can you not love this adorable creature?  Plus, water extinguishes fire...  Fried  beef  1    Ho ho ho!   21:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) LOL I main Squirtle so that's an instant vote from me. I do like the King of Koopas, but Squirtle is much better. <font face="Elephant"> Koopa Claus <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 21:12, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) I was going to say the fire vs. water line, but Friedbeef beat me to it. Oh well.  Miles ( talk)   21:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Squirtle just plain owns Bowser as it is. Then, remember that, someday, he may well become a Blastoise. Triple ownage! -- Jackton TALK  21:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Lulz. Bowser ftl. --  Shadow  crest  21:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Water is Super Effective against fire! Also because i liekz turtlez. Mas  ter  man   Happy  Holidays!  !  21:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) You think Bowser can beat a .... Pokemon? HAHAHA You guys make me laugh! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 23:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) He's Cute, A water Starter type (*Cough* Mudkip *Cough*), and Water>Fire. Size can't stop Squirtle from winning!--User:Mudkipz (talk) 02:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) Squirtle is better than Bowser. Plus, I love his cheer face ^^ Too bad it is so low in the tier list. Bowser is quite... unplayable to me. Metalink187 (talk) 08:42, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) Squirtle is way better than Bowser. Faster, easier to KO with, and he is so much cooler. Dexington (talk) 16:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) He's way faster, and again, what Friedbeef said Water>Fire. linkpwns. cause' he is santa clause's counterpart! Happy Holidays!  23:23, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) Water > Fire <font color="Green">Para <font color="Silver">Goomba <font color="Red">348 05:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) Bowser, you are pathetic. Mwhahahahahahahahahahaha! SapphireKirby777 (talk) 13:58, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) Bowser looks like "a cheap movie monster", to paraphrase Snake, plus the Squirtle line is one of the more awesome Pokemon lines. Although, in Pokemon terms, I'm not sure that I would classify Bowser as a Fire-type; more of a Dragon-type, which Water isn't great against, but Squirtle can learn Ice Beam in the games, which pwns Dragons, so the final effect is the same. Yes, I know that had nothing to do with Smash, but it's a popularity contest, not a forum to create a tier list, so I don't care.Bek The Conqueror (talk) 22:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 15) I once had a match in the early days where the finish came down to my opponent's Bowser using his forward smash, and my Squirtle whipping out his just in time. Both moves super armored right into each other, and at the end, Squirtle was left standing as Bowser said goodbye to Battlefield.  If that isn't epic, I don't know what is.  Also, Squirtle is ninja. -GdDmt(talk) 10:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, Turtle Power. I vote Squirtle, he's, like, the underdog.  Plus his water moves can douse Bowser's fire moves! - BattleFranky202 (talk) 16:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

 * 1) You can do it, Squirtle!!!11
 * 2) Water>Fire. Squirtle's super effective against Bowser!!!--114.198.43.242 05:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


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Comments
Toon Ganondorf, tortoises are protected in our country. So, eating them is forbbiden. But I don't know if some people have already broken the law... Metalink187 (talk) 08:42, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry 'bout that comment. I was merely poking fun at teh people who eat frogs and snails (i may be digging myself a hole here).  Toon Ganondorf CHAT  09:05, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

No worries ! ^^ I knew it was a joke. Yeah we (French) are legendary for our food. But I can only advice you to taste snail with some butter flavoured in the garlic and in herbes liqueurs brandy. ^^ *die* Metalink187 (talk) 12:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I like towtlez! I'm neutral on this one.  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 19:45, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

BNK is a turtle.... <font face="Elephant"> Koopa Klaus <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 19:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Who is BNK ? Metalink187 (talk) 20:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Blue Ninjakoopa (please refrain from using profanity, thanks)  Fried beef  1    Ho ho ho!   22:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't want to be infamous but you guys don't stop using this abbreviation so I want to know. I just changed what I wrote. :-) Metalink187 (talk) 11:32, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No prob. Anything else you wanna know, just ask. Seeing the weird foods thing above, I would like to add that in some parts of China, we stew cow intestines! Not me though...  Fried  beef  1    Ho ho ho!   13:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


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Week 10: Mewtwo vs. Lucario
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 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|Mewtwo, enraged over his removal from Smash, enters the Arena to fight against Lucario, who replaced Mewtwo on the roster. Which Pokémon merits the fighter position?
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Votes for Mewtwo

 * 1) Mewtwo pwns Lucario with his phychic powahs! Mas  ter  man   Happy  Holidays!  !  21:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Mewtwo can't even be contained in a Pokeball. Only the Master Ball can contain him. What does that say about his power? -- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  22:41, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Psychic beats Fighting. 'Nough said.  Fried  beef  1    Ho ho ho!   23:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Mewtwo should've returned, because, come on, who wouldn't want to see Mewtwo have a Final Smash? Miles ( talk)   02:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Dropping Mewtwo from the roster was a terrible mistake on the producer's part. Mewtwo is a great character. -- Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  02:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Mewtwo sucked, but they shouldn't have dropped him. :/ --  Shadow  crest  04:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) The only time I'd EVER vote against Mewtwo in the SA is against Roy. Mewtwo was my Main in Melee, with Roy. Mewtwo so owns Lucario's @$$, it isn't even funny. Long Live Mewtwo, and put him in SSB4--User:Mudkipz (talk) 18:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) This is kind of thought, since even though Lucario's a fighting type, which is weak against psychic, he is also a steel type, which is resistant to psychic attacks... Well, I vote Mewtwo, anyway, since he can learn pretty much any move, plus he could use his psychic powers to...  do stuff...  to Lucario. - BattleFranky202 (talk) 18:52, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) Although Mewtwo sucked in Melee, if he had been in Brawl, he would've killed Lucario, as he probably would've gotten changes to his moveset. - Masq  (t/c/e) 01:17, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) I wanted to see a Final Smash for Mewtwo. He was so much better!  The Steel Avenger  <small style="color:Firebrick">Taste my cold steel! 
 * 11) Mewtwo is so much cooler than Lucario, it's not even funny. Remember, he actually managed to kill Ash, a feat that, to the best of my knowledge, has not been repeated since. He also has a magnificent evil laugh, and was the only character in Melee to actually sound evil. Bek The Conqueror (talk) 00:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 12) I prefer Mewtwo. While Lucario's health affects his power ("The cornered rat will bite the cat."), he's lacking in one area: speed. Mewtwo has that. Sorry, but I prefer Mewtwo. Hopefully, he's in the next game (look at the Bumper, it wasn't in Melee, but returned in Brawl).  MarioGalaxy Talk 21:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 13) The (ahem) 2nd best in Melee - Link's Assistant 14:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

 * 1) Mewtwo rules. Don't doubt the old school pokemon!--121.220.93.142 03:07, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Mewtwo all the way! 69.29.26.186 17:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


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Votes for Lucario

 * 1) WATCH THE POWER OF AURA! <font face="Elephant"> Blue Ninjakoopa <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 21:45, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Mewtwo had a lot of sucky moves that doesn't hit the enemy accurately. Lucario is better with his Aura power and he/it has more style ^^ Metalink187 (talk) 23:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Mewtwo was SUCH a disapointment in melee! He was my fave poemon, and he sucked!  Lucario's better, and he's one of mah mains.  MARSHMALLOW POWER!   Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 23:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Wanna' know why Mewtwo isn't wearing a scouter? He was fighting Lucario for awhile, only Mewtwo started getting tired while Lucario kept on pawnchin'.  It was at this point that he took out his scouter to analyze Lucario's aura.  Keep in mind Lucario had survived to precisely 182%.  When Mewtwo saw the reading, he flipped, and his scouter spontaneously exploded from psychic rage.  So yeah, that's why.  AURA OVERWHELMING!  Aura-lifting, aura-palming, aura-kicking, aura-jumping, aura-sphereing, aura-spawning BABIES.  This isn't your mom's power; IT'S AURA POWER! -  GdDmt ( talk).  1:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * One, Mewtwo looks like a proper rejected lab experiment through and through (probably because he is.) Lucario's much cooler. But, when you think about it, despite their base stats, they abilities and general appearance seem somewhat similar. So...who would win this fight: dog vs. cat? Everybody knows that dogs always trample cats, so why should it be any different with Lucario and Mewtwo? I mean, when it comes down to it, Mewtwo's just a cat-like thing, whilst Lucario's more like a mutt. -- Jackton TALK  11:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Lucario is much cooler than Mewtwo. Only noobs use Ubers anyway. Dexington (talk) 18:20, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) The Force (Aura) is with Lucario! Neo Metal Sonic 13:04, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Watch in awe at the awe-ra!  Ike's Best Buddy  Merry! Christmas!! 
 * 4) Lucario has a better down special. Solar flute (talk)
 * 5) Out with the bad, in with the good. Lucario was a welcome change. - <font face="times new roman"> GalaxiaD <font face="times new roman">  (Happy Holidays!)  20:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

 * 1) Lucario is an awesome character! He would pound Mewtwo anyday. 220.253.108.191 00:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Lucario becomes stronger when damaged using his Aura whilst Mewtwo stays weak and only becomes easier to KO.
 * 3) If Mewtwo was in Brawl, he'd be incredibly floaty and even easier to hit. And Lucario's fairly high on the tier list. 220.253.194.240 09:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Lu-ca-rio!
 * 5) Mew2 was weak in Melee. Not worth playing 20 hours or 700 matches of VS mode. 114.198.45.16 08:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) The Aura overpowers Mewtwo anyday.
 * 7) I hate Mewtwo. Wasted my life trying to unlock him.
 * 8) Aura Sphere>Shadow Ball 220.253.204.177 03:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


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Comments
Do we say "he" or "it" ? Mewtwo doesn't have any gender and Lucario can be male or female. What do you think about it ? Metalink187 (talk) 23:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

No. Mewtwo is a male, as confirmed in the anime, and Lucario is a male in Brawl.<font face="Elephant"> Blue Ninjakoopa <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 23:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Freid beef1... Lucario's Phychic 2... Mas  ter  man   Happy  Holidays!  !  23:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

You would think... but really, he's primary Fighting, secondary Steel. He can learn Psychic moves (I think, not sure), but he is NOT Psychic of primary or secondary types.  Fried beef  1    Ho ho ho!   23:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nintendo REALLY didn't think about Lucario did they? Mas  ter  man   Happy  Holidays!  !  02:42, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Anime is non-canon. -- Shadow  crest  04:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * He definitely sounds masculine. -- Gutripper Speak if you are worthy  05:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

They are reasonably balanced. Both can learn Aura Sphere and aura based moves like Dark Pulse, and they both learn Psychic and other Psychic-moves like Me First. Types don't excactly matter, because Mewtwo's Psychic hits Lucario regularly but can always use Aura Sphere or Focus Blast, while Lucario has Dark Pulse or Crunch. It's just the fact that Mewtwo is a super-powerd Uber and Lucario's a lower-end Standard Pokemon. But Smash appears to have changed all that. Plus, Lucario has a unique typing. Oh, and there are many Mewtwo's in the games and like Shadowcrest said, the anime is NOT canon. Mewtwo is genderless ~(or varied, like PIkachu, Lucario etc, because they are so many.) -- Jackton TALK  11:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope. Mewtwo is male. So is Lucario. Anime is kinda stupid, but they do it rite sometimes. By the way, Mewtwo's worst stat is his Special defense. Lucario could do alot of damage with dark pulse, although it wouldn't be a one-hit KO. Did any of you know that Lucario's D-smash is based off of Dark pulse? <font face="Elephant"> Blue Ninjakoopa <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 15:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

It looks like Lucario's going to win by non-user votes ._. - Masq  (t/c/e) 13:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * They're only worth half. Don't fret none. <font face="Elephant"> Blue Ninjakoopa <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 16:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * And yet... the non-user votes are still winning it for Lucario, even though they are only worth half. Go figure. Bek The Conqueror (talk) 21:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Ha! My vote tied the score!  The Steel Avenger  <small style="color:Firebrick">Taste my cold steel! 
 * IPs always vote 4 people i don't want 2 win. :'( Mas  ter  man   Happy  Holidays!  !  00:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Some IPs are just mean. <font face="Elephant"> Blue Ninjakoopa <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 01:20, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right BNK. We need a petition that stops everyone that uses an IP address to get on the Internet from getting on Smashwi-  Oh... that's right...  Fried  beef  1    Ho ho ho!   01:23, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

OMG, it's 11.5 all... and it's only Sunday!  Fried beef  1    Ho ho ho!   03:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, look at all of those IP's voting for Lucario... Curse you IP's! - Masq  (t/c/e) 08:30, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Did you notice that this is gonna be the first draw if no-one posts any vote till Friday ? Those IP's votes should not be cursed ^^ Metalink187 (talk) 08:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * How? The score is 12.5 - 13.5 Lucario. - Masq  (t/c/e) 09:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Er-... Small mistake. ^^' Sorry. Metalink187 (talk) 13:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Dear Jackton, Mewtwo is not a cat, but a kangaroo. Lucario is a coyote. <font face="Elephant"> Blue Ninjakoopa <font face="Elephant"> Happy Holidays 13:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh? That's the first time I've heard Mewtwo being called a kangaroo. But know you come to mention it...there is a similarity. No wait, that's just silly. Meh, anyway, looks like this is as close a fight as any of them are gonna get! I'm actually hoping for a tie, any other result could get messy... -- Jackton TALK  14:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

The vote unsigned in the mewtwo column was me typing in for LA  Ike's Best Buddy Merry! Christmas!! 
 * Wow, 13.5 all. I haven't seen a fight this close since C. Falcon vs. Snake. - <font face="times new roman"> GalaxiaD <font face="times new roman">  (Happy Holidays!)  21:17, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE: Lucario is winning by 1 IP address (.5). With only a few hour left, this is going down to the wire!  Cheez person  { talk } stuff ''' 03:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC) CORRECTION:The score is tied at 14 all... Is this gonna be our first tie?  Fried beef  1    Ho ho ho!   18:04, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

LOL, it was A Tie, atleast Lucario didn't win.--User:Mudkipz (talk) 02:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


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