Talk:Blaster (disambiguation)

Did it really need a merge? Nobody even added a category... (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 21:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC))

Yep
Sorry but I got sick of seein' Blaster next to parentheses.
 * --Blue Ninjakoopa (talk) 21:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is that a good reason? Other members did not want it merged, their opinions (as well as mine, I recall saying "no") matter. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 21:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC))


 * On another note, opinions of the community do matter. That being said, I shall quote Silverdragon706 regarding Fire Wolf, Fire Fox, etc.

''' Individual attacks of characters get their own pages. Putting Fox's, Falco's, and Wolf's side-attacks onto one page is just too much. Stuff like Link's bombs and T/Y Link's bombs get their own pages, so these do, too.'''

(Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 21:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC))

Well, I don't mind. It doesn't make much of a difference, and there's not much of a negative side to merging them, really. 69.12.204.63 21:55, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

You don't mind. Please, keep in mind, that you are not the only one here. I, for one, do mind. I thought they were fine where they were. As did others, considering the outcome of the "vote". (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 21:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC))

When no Sysops are involved...then the users create how the vote should be done.and since we are the users we can choose a democratic system...and by that system the result is un merge no? - Hatake91 (talk) 22:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Finally
We finally put the articles in the format I suggested. MarioGalaxy (talk) 22:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * However, most users didn't want a merge. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 22:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC))

Technically it isn't a merge. I suggested we made an article that puts information under 3 headings:

Blaster (Fox)
Information on Fox's blaster.

Blaster (Falco)
Information on Falco's blaster.

Blaster (Wolf)
Information on Fox's blaster.

The original idea that everyone wanted was to put general information on the blaster, not for each person. MarioGalaxy (talk) 22:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Wolf's Blaster having its own article
I think it may be more appropriate to have Wolf's Blaster in its own article rather than sharing one with Fox and Falco. Fact is, Wolf's Blaster is a completely different move from Fox's and Falco's Blaster, and I believe that is enough to merit its own article, rather than implying it's a "clone move" by grouping it in this article. Omega  Tyrant   23:27, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
 * Support. In fact, in Japan, it is called "Claw Blaster". Mr. Anon (talk) 23:39, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
 * Support. Squishyfrog   Chat  23:48, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
 * Support Different Japanese name, effect, range hitbox, appearance, effect on competitive metagame and comboing ability. Toast  Ultimatum  Transparent Swadloon.png Complaints Box  05:09, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
 * Oppose. Same button press, same universe, same number of things in common than things different. We don't need another stub article.  Penguin  of  Death   09:23, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
 * Same button press is irrelevant, all neutral specials have the same button press. Same universe is irrelevant as well, we don't have separate special moves in the same article based on the characters with them being in the same universe. And the last statement is wrong, Wolf's Blaster is a different move in every relevant aspect. Wolf simply shooting a laser out of a gun is irrelevant, we don't have Megavitamin and Fireball in the same article, where both involve Dr. Mario and Mario shooting a bouncing projectile.


 * For it being a stub, just because Wolf's Blaster article isn't lengthy doesn't mean it's a stub. Many special moves articles are not long anyway. Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:34, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
 * I would also like to point out that Falco Phantasm has a separate article, yet that move is much more similar to Fox Illusion than Claw Blaster is to Blaster. Mr.  Anon MatchupUnknown.png talk   11:41, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

Adventures
Didn't Fox use this while riding the HighTop/CloudRunner? It wasn't the Fire Blaster cause it had infinite ammo. -- Roy boy  X   Talk  09:00, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
 * Fox indeed owns a weapon called Blaster in Star Fox Adventures, however, SSB64 and even Melee came first. Still probably worth a mention though. Toast  Ultimatum  Transparent Swadloon.png Complaints Box  09:18, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

Stun
I heard some people saying that Samus and ZSS take more stun from Falco's lasers than the other characters, can someone confirm this? S c r 7 07:26, 9 August 2013 (EDT)


 * Why should they? Falco's Laser does weight independent set knockback meaning it should stun everyone equally.-- Brian Don't try me!Falco.gif 08:25, 9 August 2013 (EDT)


 * I'm not really sure, but I heard it on IRC and in Mousehounter's sandbox. S c r 7 Wolfsig.png 08:28, 9 August 2013 (EDT)

This may actually be possible; at low knockback hitstun length might be based on the length of the flinch animation and not on the amount of knockback. I'm not sure how I can test this though. Toomai Glittershine The Ghostbuster 16:46, 9 August 2013 (EDT)

Link's Shield KO
When Fox's blaster hits Link's Hylian shield, Link gets pushed back slightly. This means Fox can get a KO with the blaster if Link is pushed off the edge and makes no attempt to recover. The sentence "This is one of the few moves in the game that can never provide a KO except stealing other players' KO's." should therefore be amended. 96.45.202.155 23:52, 14 October 2015 (EDT)
 * If you die without being damaged, SSB4 counts that as a self-destruct, giving no one credit for a KO. Same thing happens if you FLUDD or Flame Choke an undamaged opponent off the stage. So while you kind of have a point, it's arguable at best, and in my opinion it's not worth adding. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Xanthic 00:00, 15 October 2015 (EDT)

Split Fox and Falco's blasters as well?
So how about it? D o  t  s  (talk)  The Spy 21:11, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

Yeah. I think each iteration of the Blaster article would benefit greatly in terms of organization and feel with a partition between these in two. Support. MuteSpittah (talk) 22:04, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

I strongly Support considering that I was the one who brought this up. The Blasters are not like the other similarly-named specials with different properties. These are pretty much entirely separate moves.  John   PK SMAAAASH!!  00:15, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
 * Umm. i put the tag up. anyway Support PoultrysigSSB4.png Poultry PoultrysigSSBM.png( talk ) the Team Liquid  06:29, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
 * What I meant was that I was the one who brought this up on the Double-Edge Dance article.  John  John3637881 Signature.png  PK SMAAAASH!!  09:30, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
 * The properties of Fox and Falco's Blasters are completely different, thus I strongly support this article split. --[[File:FXSig2.png]] Falconian Leader (Enter the Leader's Office) 8:57, 13 April 2016 (EST)

Support or merge Wolf's blaster with this. We will probably have to make a disambiguation page for all three kinds of blasters and move this to "Blaster (Fox)". -- Ethan  ( Discussion ) 13:10, 13 April 2016 (EDT) Weak support. The page is pretty much broken up into two mini-pages anyway. Nyargle blargle'''  (Contribs) 13:48, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
 * I actually already split them, but one of the admins has taken them both down until voting is finished. So I would very much like to have this page split confirmed so those can go up again. Strongly support. CpnFlacon (talk) 12:51, 22 April 2016 (EDT)
 * It's split now. Nyargleblargle.png Nyargle blargle'''  (Contribs) 12:55, 22 April 2016 (EDT)