User talk:Serpent King/Archive 9

About my block.
I realized that the block was necisary, as I had very inappropriate behavior. I hope the wiki is doing well these days.174.55.241.143 13:08, 20 April 2016 (EDT)

IRC
It just borked. Hard. Disaster Flare   (talk)  18:29, 21 April 2016 (EDT)
 * Yeah I saw, seems Gamesurge is having issues... Serpent  SKSig.png  King   18:31, 21 April 2016 (EDT)
 * I mean, that was not supposed to happen. What kind of issues do you think happened? --BeepYouSignature.png BeepYou, a user with no grammar at all :v (talk) 18:32, 21 April 2016 (EDT)

IRC
Can you guys get back on? D o  t  s  (talk)  The Character 19:33, 21 April 2016 (EDT)
 * We are on. The IRC had some kind of fragment thing happen. We're on one half while you're on the other. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  19:36, 21 April 2016 (EDT)

IRC Stuff
Was gonna find my proxy, but I found my Dota match, so uh, let me just say: You blocked me. Real uh, real professional there. I guess you'll want to add a ban on using the word SWAG on IRC if you're gonna do that stuff. Mega Tron1   22:03, 21 April 2016 (EDT)
 * Oh shit I'm sorry. You uh...you have a very similar mask to his so I just assumed it was him. Removing now, my apologies. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   22:04, 21 April 2016 (EDT)
 * Note the address too. I can tell if its actually Swagman or not. D  o  t  s  (talk) Mega Man X SNES sprite.png The Ness 22:24, 21 April 2016 (EDT)

User:Penro/WelcomeIP
I created a template to convice IPs to make an account, similar to our current welcome template. Do you think it's good enough, and if so, can we implement it as a template? If not, what do you think should be changed? Penro 20:42, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
 * Could be worth making, yeah. Put it to a vote maybe. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   08:35, 26 April 2016 (EDT)
 * K, thanks! But what will we have a vote for? If it should exist at all, or if it's good enough to be a template? PenroPenroDarkPitHead.png PenroZSSHead.png 23:05, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
 * Whether or not we need it. I am not opposed but I can't speak for the rest. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   23:09, 27 April 2016 (EDT)

Hey
Template talk:Pages to improve Last section  Poultry ( talk ) the God-Slayer 19:26, 27 April 2016 (EDT)

Quick favor
Would you mind bringing this back for a second? I need it for something. Aidan, the Wandering Dragon Warrior  08:55, 5 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Turns out I don't have the file anymore so... You beat me to it. Drill Blaster Mark 2  (talk)  11:26, 5 May 2016 (EDT)
 * You guys still need this? Serpent  SKSig.png  King   16:44, 5 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Nah they've already got it uploaded. I'll go ahead and delete it. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  16:45, 5 May 2016 (EDT)

Kill Percents, worth mentioning?
I have noticed that for most characters, the percent at which their attacks kill is not mentioned. I'm referring primarily to the smash attacks and special moves, as well as some aerials. I can take the time to check at what percents these moves will kill (at least for Smash Wii U and Brawl) i'm wondering if its worth the effort. I'd hate to see someone delete my findings afterward. So do you think its something I should start on?Nightgengale (talk) 22:15, 5 May 2016 (EDT)
 * The thing with KO percents is that while you can get a general idea of where they are, you'd have to set up the same way each and every time. We actually have an article for forward smashes which has KO percents, but the problem on that article is consistency: We have no idea under what conditions these numbers were taken in some cases. There's also the issue of where to put the statistic... I would suggest in the description of moveset tables on the character pages. Just be sure to be consistent and note exactly how you are doing it (on Mario in the middle of FD is probably best). Serpent  SKSig.png  King   22:21, 5 May 2016 (EDT)
 * We already mention some kill percents on each character's general page. I assume that being able to KO a Mario at position X would warrant mention on the primary page while the specific pages could look at general weight KO percents and position and stuff. Mega  Tron1  Decepticon.png 22:24, 5 May 2016 (EDT)
 * That could work as well. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   22:25, 5 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Got it. Thanks :)Nightgengale (talk) 22:37, 5 May 2016 (EDT)

Let me explain. Yes, it didn't break SW:TRIVIA, and I am sorry for the confusion, but the trivia was way too obivious to be decent trivia. That's sorta like saying,"Mango is the first Smash player to be sponsored by Cloud9", despite it being really obivious. Pen ro  (Talk) 22:09, 6 May 2016 (EDT)
 * It's not obvious for people who do not follow the scene as closely as we do, and that of course is why we report on the scene in the first place. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   22:22, 6 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I see. Pen  ro  (Talk) 08:19, 7 May 2016 (EDT)

"Clearly Consensus Means Nothing"
A 5-1-2 vote doesn't mean consensus, especially if you're gonna get all dramatic about how your majority rule victory makes you the victim. Honestly, someone can correct me if I'm blatantly wrong or outdated, but having a majority rule victory means jackshit in a lot of situations if the debate isn't going your way. Mega Tron1   18:39, 12 May 2016 (EDT)

Larry Lurr
I prefer Larry Lurr to be called DEHF because I find it cooler and he only changed it to Larry Lurr last year. His name is still DEHF. Fox, Falco, Marth, Ice Climbers 20:16, 12 May 2016 (EDT) Thunder1738
 * Sounding cooler is completely irrelevant. It will stay Larry Lurr because as far as I know, this is the name he currently uses.
 * Also, your signature is a big ol' violation of SIG. Please change it. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   20:20, 12 May 2016 (EDT)

Block
Youwutbro and poultry 73.52.84.159 11:06, 14 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Read it through. Poultry is reverting youwut's vandalism. Also, we have AN. Dek Zek Dekzeksig.png 11:08, 14 May 2016 (EDT)
 * I'm sorry 73.52.84.159 11:09, 14 May 2016 (EDT)
 * I meant Nothingso 73.52.84.159 11:11, 14 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Taken care of. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  11:49, 14 May 2016 (EDT)

CC
http://smashranking.eu/smashers/cc/ new name  Poultry ( talk ) the God-Slayer 11:51, 15 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Next time, probably a good idea to put that in the edit summary. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   12:17, 15 May 2016 (EDT)

Was this
A disgrace to the pokemon franshise https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ6sQ382hRU 73.52.84.159 13:18, 16 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Please read TALK. This and a couple of your recent talk page posts have been in violation of it. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  13:21, 16 May 2016 (EDT)
 * Looking through your edit history, all of your edits except for 1 questionable one have been violations of SW:TALK. Cease this behavior now or you will be blocked for spamming. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   13:52, 16 May 2016 (EDT)

Might want to fix a red link.
Might want to fix a red link in the Screen KO Page in the gallery for the image I recently uploaded. TabuuandMasterCore (talk) 14:51, 18 May 2016 (EDT)

PewPewU Fox Main
PewPewU uses Fox more as a main than as a secondary or sandbagging character.
 * "He's literally only used Fox vs. Mew2King once, and that was at EVO 2014 (which was almost two years ago). On top of that, that's an incorrect assessment, considering the fact that PewPewU almost always goes solo Marth at nationals."
 * Also, if you didn't change your previous signature, I'd have to say that you have to now. You're just throwing out character page links when you could go and do that on your userpage. Mega  Tron1  Decepticon.png 21:05, 18 May 2016 (EDT)

Reverse 3-0
Ally lost 2 games, then won 3 games. That's what it means. Interpret and use that as you will. Mega Tron1   23:58, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
 * A little iffy on how that's notable trivia Serpent  SKSig.png  King   00:04, 23 May 2016 (EDT)

Looking for some advice
I have been in this wiki for over a year now, but overall I just feel like I've barely helped contribute here. Whenever I try to keep things up to date in character pages among other stuff, it seems like someone always manages to do the job first. I wanted to personally ask you if there are any ways I can help contribute to this wiki, since I wanna be of use to you guys.

A million apologies if I should've posted this somewhere else, and will make sure to not do it again if that's the case. Thank you for your time. Tahu Mata, The Toa of Fire  (talk)  18:14, 1 June 2016 (EST)
 * No no not at all, happy to help. There's always the "wanted pages" and "pages to improve" lists on the recent changes list as well as the maintenance bar in the same place.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  19:22, 1 June 2016 (EDT)

Much appreciated. I'll try to help out in any way I can. Tahu Mata, The Toa of Fire  (talk)  18:25, 1 June 2016 (EST)

Can I please reupload my skull image for my profile?
I promise not to add it back to the Master Core page (unless I can convince Miles otherwise); I just want to use it in my profile. Thanks. Unowninator (talk) 12:15, 9 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Here, I can restore the image for you. Give me a sec. :P Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  12:36, 9 June 2016 (EDT)

Ned
He also got 7th at Dismantle 2 and 3rd at Frostbite, and has some pretty good wins on players such as. Pen ro  20:38, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Well, those wins were with ZSS. I'm not sure whether or not he should be on Cloud's page yet. -- Ethan [[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]] ( Discussion ) 21:17, 12 June 2016 (EDT)

Edit count
Is 55.1% a satisfactory amount of mainspace edits Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ 22:52, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
 * It's higher than mine, lol. Then again I have a ton of File edits.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  22:57, 12 June 2016 (EDT)

Since you unblocked me
For unblocking me, have my new friend userbox: You have me in my thoughts for unblocking me, im going to edit the Mainspace before I get Probation. TabuuandMasterCore 22:01, 13 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Ahh... you never learn to just remain quiet and keep things to yourself when you messed up, do you? Plz. Stop. For your own sake. And it's not a threat, it's a notice of what will happen. --BeepYouSignature.png BeepYou, a user with no grammar at all :v (talk) 02:14, 14 June 2016 (EDT)

Hey
The ice climber universe template automatically adds that category... Poultry ( talk ) the God-Slayer 19:05, 14 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Just checked it and it does not, nor should it.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  19:20, 14 June 2016 (EDT)

Image Copyrights
Hey, I'm from the Smashpedia and I noticed we use one of this wiki's gifs. I'm assuming they're not but are the images and gifs free to use? If not I will remove it. Thanks. Tibarn (talk) 00:19, 17 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Through creative commons and sharealike, content from this wiki can be used elsewhere, so long as credit is given. What is the gif you speak of?  Serpent SKSig.png  King  00:23, 17 June 2016 (EDT)
 * The super wavedash on final destination. Tibarn (talk) 00:46, 17 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Oh ok yeah. Should be fine as long as credit is given.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  01:03, 17 June 2016 (EDT)

I assumed we copied SmashWiki's GIF because our Super Wavedash page was created very recently; however I was incorrect. Our image was uploaded in 2006 where as yours was in 2010. Which means the GIF is under copyright of Smashpedia as far as I know. I apologize for the confusion. Tibarn (talk) 00:16, 23 June 2016 (EDT)
 * That may be due to the fact that SmashWiki and Smashpedia used to be one. When the split came, a lot of the articles and files were imported, so there's a lot of images both wikis share to this day. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  00:40, 23 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Ah, I see. I only know very little about the split between the two wikis. Tibarn (talk) 08:32, 23 June 2016 (EDT)

About Template:Infobox Stage
Awhile ago, you helped me edit this template to make it look better + add a few things (which, I haven't even bothered adding these parameters to any articles anyway). Regardless, my main concern is in the tournament legality section. While it looks much better than it did before, the header for it appears even when it isn't applicable. An example would be on TEST. I am very novice at wikicode, so I was hoping you could do something about it if it's not too much to ask. Rob Sir    zx  04:08, 18 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Oh yeah sure I'll get that in a bit.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  19:28, 18 June 2016 (EDT)

Happy birthday!
Happy birthday to an amazing admin! Seriously, have a good one. Pen ro  11:47, 28 June 2016 (EDT)


 * ^ Same. Hope you don't feel too old. :) Rob  Sir  RobSir-sig.jpg  zx  12:31, 28 June 2016 (EDT)
 * June 28th. I'll make sure to remember that Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 12:33, 28 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Thanks guys :D  Serpent SKSig.png  King  12:37, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

Happy birthday bud! :P Disaster Flare    (talk)  15:49, 28 June 2016 (EDT)
 * I already told you, but here we go again. Enjoy your hypothetical birthday cake(s) and the rest of your day! Bacon  Master BaconMasterSig.png 15:53, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

Unowninator (talk) 19:09, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

Happy burfday! Nyargle blargle'''  (Contribs) 19:23, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

HAPPY FUCKIN' BIRTHDAY, MAN!!!!! Also, since you're finally at the correct age, have you had your first alcoholic drink yet? And if so, what was it? :P -- Meat Ball  104   19:45, 28 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Thanks! No I haven't, Imma take a stab at that next week.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  19:50, 28 June 2016 (EDT)

Oh no... I missed
I missed on giving you a happy birthday. Staying away from the wiki has made me miss on lots of things. Ah well, happy belated birthday. -- BeepYou, a user with no grammar at all :v (talk) 13:22, 29 June 2016 (EDT)
 * Thanks !  Serpent  SKSig.png  King  19:40, 29 June 2016 (EDT)

My edits
I'll try and limit myself to sections from here on out. But I'm gonna have to call horseshit on the part about my grammar when there's the likes of BeepYou making worthwhile contributions that are still somehow marred by grammatical mistakes that even grade school kids would avoid. With that being said, if you have any certain grammatical tips that you think would be beneficial, such as what you used for 's page, then by all means run them by me. 173.171.56.222 04:07, 30 June 2016 (EDT)
 * First of all, run edits through spellcheck first. It won't catch everything, but it'll cut down on mistakes. Second, read your sentence out loud. If it sounds awkward, it needs rewritten. Third, formatting shit: title is preferred over title for instance.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  16:52, 30 June 2016 (EDT)
 * I already do the first two. But if you're up to it, run those by BeepYou if you haven't already, since he makes good contributions that are marred by wonky grammar. However, I'll take the third tip into account. 173.171.56.222 18:15, 6 July 2016 (EDT)

A question
Despite my history of breaking the rules, is it still possible for me to have rollback? TabuuandMasterCore 19:55, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Yeah, you can still try. Nothing holding you back really if you have the 3 reversion examples.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  19:56, 5 July 2016 (EDT)

Forgot to put this on my last edit summary
But thanks for that edit. Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ 02:07, 10 July 2016 (EDT)
 * No prob :D  Serpent SKSig.png  King  02:08, 10 July 2016 (EDT)

Hey
Once notable always notable, using your logic, delete due to being inactive plus  in both crews, yeah they were notable   Poultry ( talk ) the God-Slayer 21:06, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Imo, rule does not apply to crews unless they are highly notable. Also one good player simply being in a crew does not automatically make it notable.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  21:14, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Agreed. We ended up deleting a lot of crew articles for this reason. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  21:15, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * vVv had ESAM, Mew2King and ZeRo, while F-Step had Rich Brown, MacD, Zex, K9sbruce, Xzax, Mew2King, and more. How can you say that having some of the BEST Brawl players of ALL TIME does not make you notable, really all the crews we deleted were old crews made 08 or something like that PoultrysigSSB4.png Poultry PoultrysigSSBM.png( talk ) the God-Slayer 21:31, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * seems to me that if a crew were that notable, the page should have already been there. I don't see a point in making a page on a crew that doesn't exist anymore.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  21:36, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Using your logic, since the dinosaurs don't exist anymore, the wikipedia page of them should be deleted, pages of deceased people shouldn't exist too, plus, they were defunct before the wiki became really active, so there's that too. PoultrysigSSB4.png Poultry PoultrysigSSBM.png( talk ) the God-Slayer 21:43, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Aight, first off, we're not Wikipedia. Second, Crews are not living things, so your argument is invalid. Third, he just said they must've not been that notable if they didn't already have their articles created. Just because they have a few notable players in them is not grounds for an article, otherwise the wiki would be bloated with crew articles. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  21:47, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

vVv gaming gets me almost 179,000 results on Google, while F-Step gives me a lot  Poultry ( talk ) the God-Slayer 21:55, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Since when does that matter?  Serpent SKSig.png  King  21:58, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * F-Step has 4 players in the top 20 in the 2014 SSBBRank, while vVv has 3. now lets look at the other crews, ECHO FOX has 1 in the top 20 of Melee, Cloud9, Alliance, Evil Genuises, Tempo Storm, Team Secret, Trail Gaming League, and Circa all have one sponsored player in the top 20 of their respective ranking PoultrysigSSB4.png Poultry PoultrysigSSBM.png( talk ) the God-Slayer 22:08, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Trying to base notability on what pages we already have is silly...because their notability is just as subject to questioning as these two are.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  22:14, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

Swallow
I mentioned in my second revision that the manual used it. What was wrong with my edit? 71.8.148.148 22:24, 13 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I'd prefer if we went with in game text.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  22:26, 13 July 2016 (EDT)

About this
I don't think we should be making exceptions when it comes to a trivia point's relevancy to Smash. The fact might be interesting, but it doesn't belong on Smashwiki. Allowing it to stay sets a precedent for allowing all sorts of interesting but non-Smash related trivia to be added to pages. At most, I would only be okay with that kind of trivia being mentioned in the beginning of the article, like how the SSB4 character articles sometimes mention that the announcement of a character coincided with a significant date in the history of their series.  John   PK SMAAAASH!!  23:19, 13 July 2016 (EDT)
 * I see your point. Alright the point can go. I just thought it was interesting enough to stay, even if it isn't strictly related to Smash  Serpent SKSig.png  King  23:49, 13 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Why can't we have a point that's not relevant now and then? And the GameCube had Melee on it so it's... a little relevant Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png 23:53, 13 July 2016 (EDT)
 * Heh no. That won't quite cut it for relevancy.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  23:54, 13 July 2016 (EDT)

Dude
Reno Power Rankings, you don't just straight up delete a power ranking of an area without any consensus  Poultry ( talk ) the God-Slayer 23:41, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
 * No consensus needed. Such a small area with no one semi-notable player...No I was correct to delete that. Sorry.  Serpent SKSig.png  King  23:44, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
 * You could of put that in your edit summary PoultrysigSSB4.png Poultry PoultrysigSSBM.png( talk ) the God-Slayer 23:47, 14 July 2016 (EDT)