Forum:Smash Arena/Archive 40

Round 196: Sheik vs. Zero Suit Samus
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Votes for Sheik

 * 1) I'm getting a little tired of voting for Zelde-related stuff, but I just want to make the outcome different this time. 71.105.121.171 23:59, 19 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Sheik always struck me as a ninja. plus, I'm good with her. 70.209.8.216 10:55, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) He's the manliest of men!  James JH-Heartless.png Heart  12:55, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) 75.31.4.16 14:52, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) I hate w*****. Terrible   is   Terrible  16:04, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) I don't really like Sheik, but she's better than Zero Suit Samus, so I'll vote for Sheik.Multus Valde (talk) 04:42, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) shiek!!!!! --Igor The Mii (talk) 21:00, 21 July 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Zero Suit Samus

 * 1) I'm sorry, but she's much more attractive that a woman dressed as a man. DoctorP a i n 9 9  23:23, 19 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) What DoctorPain99 said, plus, she's hawt. -- Con  ny  Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:25, 19 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) First time voting :] Shiek is Zelda in her Prime, Zero Suit is Samus going easy on you. Malake256 (talk) 01:04, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) She is hot!Boo Buddy (talk) 03:50, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) I don't see anything special about her... Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Medic 10:06, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) I don't like Sheik at all, I'll tell you what. 67.166.229.4 13:33, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) She's better than her with her power suit. Now that makes her epic. Plus Metroid Zero Mission is cool. --- Conanshinichi 14:05, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) dat ass Bandit 14:43, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) I like Sheik, but Zero Suit Samus is downright fun to play as! Washi (talk) 14:46, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) Down smash. Stunning is awesome. S c r 7 Wolfsig.png 16:47, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 11) Even though I barely use both characters, I'm better with zero suit Samus, because she has a decently powerful electric whip and is stronger than sheik. Plus everything the guy below me said. TheAtomicFire [[File:PichuHeadSSBM.png]] (talk) 17:14, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) A character who can actually KO, has better range, can recover much safer, and doesn't have the falling speed of a boulder which would get her in pikachu's chaingrab. Lightning Blue 405MS.png 19:17, 20 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) Better character design. Also, come on guys, do you have to be stereotypical and pick Zamus because "she's hot"? Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 01:08, 21 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 14) Samus? Respond! Responnnnnnnnnn... Chuck  Norris  24.png  09:19, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) It is fun to throw power suit pieces at opponents. Mr.  Anon Anon.png talk   23:32, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 16) I voted because Adam told me to do so. Megi  Beelzebub  MegiBeelzebub.png 14:10, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 17) Because she's better than weak Zelda. Superstarxalien169&#39;s smashbox. (talk) 19:18, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
 * Yes, yes we do, OT. :P--Starman125 (talk) 01:20, 26 July 2013 (EDT)


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Round 197: Yoshi's Story vs. Fountain of Dreams
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Votes for Yoshi's Story
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 * 1) Much happier looking, a little bigger, and of course... Randall! Washi (talk) 23:49, 26 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) A bit larger, and a background reminiscent of a game I played at my friend's house, I hate Pak E. Derm, but this stage is fun. DarkFox 01 DF01Sig.png Active 23:53, 26 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) For whatever so reason, I like seeing Melee competitive matches on this stage and it seems to be a common pick too. Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Pokémon 00:16, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Randall the Cloud FTW. [[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S <font style="color:#7F7FFF">c <font style="color:#00
 * 1) Boo Buddy (talk) 16:26, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) 198.53.20.219 20:59, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) Because Yoshi is awesome. And Randall is too. BunnyHoodYoshi9001   Talk to me  09:45, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Because you unlock Marth in the other one. --69.244.174.29 17:08, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) I just watched Monsters University. There is a cloud named Randall in this stage and there is a monster named Randall in the film. Chuck  Norris  24.png  11:50, 29 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Yoshi is awesome! <font color="Blue">The <font color="Blue">Awesome  Awesomesig.png 21:48, 1 August 2013 (EDT)

Half votes

 * 1) YOSHIIIII —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.9.53 (talk • contribs) 08:47, 29 July 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Fountain of Dreams

 * 1) I don't feel either layout to be very different, but I like the Kirby franchise more than the Yoshi's Island series, so I pick this. 71.105.121.171 23:54, 26 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) The orchestrated music for this stage is beyond comprehension. -- Con  ny  Airconny Snake Sig.png 00:12, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) Because it's where you unlock Marth. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;"><font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP a i n 9 9  01:15, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Dat music. Terrible   is   Terrible  11:15, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) The starry sky background speaks to me: Melee's best played at night! 67.166.229.4 13:08, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Cause you unlock Marth here. Plus it's Kirby! 67.166.229.4 13:58, 27 July 2013107.211.34.20 13:59, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) I like it`s appearance more. It has a starry night sky and awesome music. TheAtomic Fire  [[File:PichuHeadSSBM.png]] 14:35, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) I love this stage --Dinoboy411 (talk) 20:32, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) Awesome look, awesome music... do I need to say more?Tepig (talk) 15:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) Both stages have the same layout, but the fountain of dreams looks cooler! Multus Valde (talk) 16:02, 29 July 2013 (EDT)MultusValde
 * 11) YS is the worst of the BF clones, and is completely dull aesthetic and music wise (whereas FoD excels at aesthetics and music). Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:07, 29 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) It has an better look: The sky looks better, and the fountains.. it's all so HDish. Cobravictim (talk) 10:49, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) Awesome music, nice look, from Kirby. :) -- Lava Kirby  19:27, 1 August 2013 (EDT) 21:04, 31 July 2013 (EDT)
 * 14) This stage is far more unique and kaleidoscopic than Yoshi Island. I mean, LOOK at those beautiful, iridescent colours! Not to mention it's probably the best professional stage to fight next to Battlefield and Final Destination. Megi  Beelzebub  MegiBeelzebub.png 13:14, 1 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) As long as I'm not fighting Peach on here, I like the stage. <font style="font-family:arial narrow"><font style="color:royalblue">Lightning <font style="color:darkblue">Blue 405MS.png 21:38, 1 August 2013 (EDT)

Half votes

 * 1) The music is memorable plus you unlock Marth in this stage (He's the best!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SkullKid777 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 30 July 2013


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Round 198: Link vs. Zelda vs. Ganondorf
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Votes for Link

 * 1) Link is the only one of the three to ever obtain the full triforce. Mr.  <font color="midnightblue">Anon Anon.png talk   12:24, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) What if all the grunts and screams Link makes are actually him speaking in Hylian? Chuck  Norris  24.png  12:31, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) OoT Link is probably my second favorite speedrunning character behind SM64 Mario. Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Ocarina of Time 12:37, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) I prefer playing as Link out of these three. 110.174.90.69 13:07, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) Who doesn't like Link? He's like, the god of them all. :P -- Con  ny  Airconny Snake Sig.png 13:13, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Ganny D is pretty cool, but Link is literally the essence of an hero! Washi (talk) 13:36, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) Link is AWESOME. Ganondorf/Ganon is UGLY. And Zelda sucks in SSBB, IMO. You can see on my userpage. -- Lava Kirby  17:06, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) He`s the hero of hyrule. They`d never survive without him. Besides, I suck with zelda and Ganondorf. TheAtomic Fire  [[File:BluePichu.png]] 09:14, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) Link, the one and only! <font color="Blue">The <font color="Blue">Awesome  Awesomesig.png 19:15, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) Link is fast and has strong fighting skills.Bulbaking (talk) 14:12, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 11) He is the manliest man alive <font style="color:black">Boo <font style="color:black">Buddy Haunter MS.png 14:22, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) The main character of the Zelda series, and the best character of the Zelda series. Can't compete with that.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 23:34, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) Link would destroy the other two!24.185.135.102 10:46, 5 August 2013
 * 14) Link is awesome!72.74.213.12 14:29, 5 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) Link saves Hyrule, Zelda gets kidnapped and Ganondorf gets his ass kicked. Difficult choice right there. 12:27, August 6 2013ToonMegaman (talk) 12:28, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 16) Zelda gets kidnapped by Ganondorf, and Link saves Zelda and owns Ganondorf. Do I need to say anything moreCobravictim (talk)
 * 17) I admire Link's skill at an arsenal of weapons, from magic rods to just a wooden boomerang, this guy uses his equipment to its full potential. Icemario Icemario.png 16:28, 9 August 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

 * 1) Link > Ganondorf > Zelda. 'nuff said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.22.66.166 (talk • contribs) 22:23, August 5 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Zelda

 * 1) While I usually go with an incarnate of Link for Smash, Zelda's my favorite of the three in her games.  James JH-Heartless.png Heart  14:22, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Tough, because a Link is my Brawl main, Zelda is my favourite character of the three (especially her Skyward Sword form), and Ganondorf is one fo the most fun characters in Brawl, if not the most fun. I'll go for Zelda, because the wrong Link is fighting, and evil is bad. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngtumTransparent Swadloon.png 14:58, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) Pity vote. 198.53.20.219 15:22, 4 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Melee.75.31.4.16 12:04, 5 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) The princess of princess :) I love Zelda... her moveset... well... she's my favorite so I vote for her -- Hi  I'm Fenix  13:02, 9 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) The princess of hyrule and one of my favorite characters EVER.--Cakeizgud (talk) 17:01, 9 August 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

 * 1) 5. Zelda the princess! --Igor The Mii (talk) 20:23, 8 August 2013 (EDT) PK FLASHBOMB!


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Votes for Ganondorf

 * 1) Melee Ganondorf is pretty good. <font style="color:#0000FF">S <font style="color:#7F7FFF">c <font style="color:#00FFFF">r <font style="color:#FF7F00">7 Wolfsig.png 12:23, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) All aboard the Ganon bandwagon! Terrible   is   Terrible  12:24, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) Move over, Bowser! A greater powerhouse is taking over! 67.166.229.4 13:10, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) I would pick Link but he's 0/4 in fighting games, always gets beat by his clones and is generally less fun to play as than Ganondorf who has always been one of my favorites. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;"><font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP a i n 9 9  13:27, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) What Scr7 said. Chuck the Duck (talk) 18:18, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) My favorite overall Smash character, and Zelda character, plain and simple. Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 03:38, 5 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) Nothing can top the Ganon PunchTM.  --HavocReaper 48  00:54, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) He's the power.....He's the evil....and for some reason, he turns into a dragon-pig kaiju with dual swords at the end. Megi  Beelzebub  MegiBeelzebub.png 15:45, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) He was better in Melee than Link and Zelda have been in the entire series. Also ridiculously fun to play in both games, even though he's the worst in Brawl. --Timson622222 (talk) 21:23, 8 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) The corrupt has arrived, and he's not pleased. Mega  Tron1  XD  Decepticon.png 15:31, 9 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 11) Ganondorf is a legitimate classic evil villain; he wants to rule the world, gain power, etc. Vincent   Tran  SPARKING!  Kirby-1.png 15:59, 9 August 2013 (EDT)


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Round 199: Samus vs. Ridley
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Votes for Samus

 * 1) I hate Ridley because everyone wants him in SSB4 and that can't work! Terrible   is   Terrible  11:01, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Samus has killed Ridley multiple times. The reverse isn't true. Mr.  <font color="midnightblue">Anon Anon.png talk   11:31, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) He has an awkward figure that wouldn't really transition well into smash. Keep him as a boss. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;"><font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP a i n 9 9  16:17, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Super Metroid, anyone? Con  ny  Airconny Snake Sig.png 16:42, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) 198.53.20.219 20:32, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Ridley is just creeping me out.. because.. that face... and besides does ppl really think that Ridley should be in ssb4? Pfft.. Cobravictim (talk)
 * 7) Samus has killed Ridley a ton of times, making her dominant. Also, I don't think that Ridley shoud be in SSB4, in my opinion it's just ridiculous. No matter what, it's not going to happen.--Iguy2002 (talk) 17:33, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) I happen to like Samus's design more and think her attacks are all around better then Ridley's attacks shown off in the Metroid series. --Water, Earth, Fire, Air (talk) 12:11, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) Better character design imo. <font style="font-family:arial narrow"><font style="color:royalblue">Lightning <font style="color:darkblue">Blue 405MS.png 13:10, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) Regardless of whether or not Ridley would work for SSB4, Samus still kicks his ass.--Starman125 (talk) 15:28, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 11) Actually, I decided I like Samus more. ZSS is fun, I like her backstory, and I've generally not liked bosses as characters, even if they're designed cool like Ridley. --Timson622222 (talk) 18:27, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) Samus' artwork in SSB4 has her in the "Ezio" pose. Sold.  --HavocReaper 48  23:58, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) <span style="background:#800080;border-top:solid red 2px;border-right:solid blue 2px;border-bottom:solid blue 2px;border-left:solid red 2px;color:magenta">Bandit 19:41, 14 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 14) I like Samus a lot especially how she sometime takes her suit off5.0.43.159 17:12, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) I like her attacks and design more,so Samus for the win!--Cakeizgud (talk) 19:10, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 16) ZERO SUIT SAMUS! Final Smash! Female. Hot. Enough said. Oh, I'm voting for Power Suit Samus? Eh, same person. SeanWheeler (talk) 12:14, 16 August 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

 * 1) I don't wanna argue with those who think that Ridley could work in SSB4, so I'll just insert my vote and go away.ToonMegaman (talk) 16:54, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Well....I prefer Ridley but I guess I'll vote for Samus cause she always beats the crud out of Ridley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.211.34.20 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 10 August 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Ridley

 * 1) I like Ridley. Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:10, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Space dragons are cool. <font style="color:#0000FF">S <font style="color:#7F7FFF">c <font style="color:#00FFFF">r <font style="color:#FF7F00">7 Wolfsig.png 11:29, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) 'Cause I don't want the outcome to be obvious, what with the hero always prevailing in the end kind of thing. Also, at least we always see Ridley's face, unlike Samus. 71.105.121.171 11:43, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Ridley is cool. <font style="color:black">Boo <font style="color:black">Buddy Haunter MS.png 12:46, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) I'm voting for Ridley just because of how stupid Terrible's reason is. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngtumTransparent Swadloon.png 12:57, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Oh man, this one is close. I never really liked Samus as a fighter, so my vote is for the Pterodactyl-Dinosaur-Space-Monster-Thingy. <font style="color:#FF0000">Wa <font style="color:#00FF00">shi Washi signature.png 13:03, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) This is enough of a reason alone. DarkFox01 DF01Sig.png see them up ahead. Let’s rock and roll! 19:05, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) Who doesn't like big and cool space dragons? TheAtomic Fire  [[File:BluePichu.png]] 10:16, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) Because Ridley is awesome. Superstarxalien169&#39;s smashbox. (talk) 22:47, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) I would laugh so hard if he's a character in SSB4. Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Bold 00:33, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 11) Ridley might be too big to be playable in SSB4, but Ridley's so awesome, he has a chance. But Samus is nothing compared to Ridley. -- Lava Kirby  12:12, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) Ridley is just awesome. Awesomelink234 (talk) 21:13, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) herp a derp ridley's too big to be a character in smash bros Chuck  Norris  24.png  10:27, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 14) RIPLEY SCOTT!!!!!!....oh wait.....XENOMORPH!!!!I mean.......dammit. Megi  Beelzebub  MegiBeelzebub.png 19:26, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) He is the char I want most for Smash 4. Well, next to Lara Croft... Roy  boy  X   Talk  19:44, 13 August 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

 * 1) I would vote for Samus, but Ridley needs some attentionn. He needs to be in Smash bros.! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.38.128 (talk • contribs) 04:49, 15 August 2013


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Terrible, that's kind of a stupid reason to not vote for Ridley. Besides, It can work for him to be in SSB4. TheAtomic Fire   10:12, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
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 * Don't try to argue with another user on Smash Arena. Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:35, 11 August 2013 (EDT)


 * This is also aimed at DP99 and Toast, don't address other users' reasoning or call their reasoning dumb, don't start arguments on Smash Arena. Omega   Tyrant  [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:37, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

I just realized that IP 198.53.20.219 has already voted. If that's the exact same person, the extra vote should be removed.71.105.121.171 22:40, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Really people, Smash Arena is not for arguing and this isn't about arguing if Ridley should be in Smash 4 or not. Stop making votes arguing about it. Omega  Tyrant   13:05, 13 August 2013 (EDT)


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=Round 200: Multi-Perennial Bicentennial=

Ganondorf vs. Mewtwo
{|style="width:100%;"
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 * colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"| Winner!! Mewtwo [[Image:Mewtwo SSBM.jpg|225px|center]] 8 to 24
 * colspan="2" style="width:36%; background:#df7fdf; border:solid #9f3f9f 5px;"|[[Image:Mewtwo SSBM.jpg|225px|center]]
 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|One, the King of the Gerudos, the one man in a century that will do anything to get his people out of the desolate desert. The other, a manmade freak of nature, a wandering one-of-a-kind species with no sense of purpose. Both commanding supernatural forces and willing to call upon the dark side of it when necessary - who wins this multifaceted throwdown?
 * colspan="3" style="width:50%; background:#5f0000; border:solid #000000 5px; padding:5px" valign="top"|
 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|One, the King of the Gerudos, the one man in a century that will do anything to get his people out of the desolate desert. The other, a manmade freak of nature, a wandering one-of-a-kind species with no sense of purpose. Both commanding supernatural forces and willing to call upon the dark side of it when necessary - who wins this multifaceted throwdown?
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Votes for Ganondorf

 * 1) I like Ganon. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;"><font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP a i n 9 9  23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) He's so great, he can beat anybody in Melee, the best character of all, and I enjoy him and is better than the rest. Con  ny  Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) Ganonbrawl is one of the most fun characters to play as in the history of Smash. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngtumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Never was a big fan of Pokemon Multus Valde (talk) 18:54, 20 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) <span style="background:#008080;border-top:solid blue 2px;border-right:solid lime 2px;border-bottom:solid lime 2px;border-left:solid blue 2px;color:cyan">Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) Phat Wind Waker Ganon owns. --174.59.4.202 00:23, 24 August 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Mewtwo

 * 1) Mewtwo was the first character I ever played in Smash Bros., so there's a lot of sentimental value there. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Because of my sig icon. Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) Mewtwo is among my favorite fictional characters of all time. Also, I want to let others know I cleared The Showdown as Mewtwo. Not kidding!71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Although not great in-game, I want him back in Smash. -- ﾚ∆ㄅ MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG 00:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) Growing up, I would constantly go to my friend's house to play Melee. My friend lacked a memory card for his GameCube, and thus it was impossible to save any unlocked characters. A visit to my cousin one day enlightened me to the full extent of the Melee cast. Imagine my surprise to see Mewtwo! I COULD PLAY AS MEWTWO! I still remember my first encounter with Mewtwo in my first Pokemon game. Even though he wasn't that great, the fact of the matter is that this was a much simpler time; No tier list, no competition, just simple and friendly games, where I could play as one of my favorite Pokemon. Sold.  --HavocReaper 48  01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Mewtwo is certainly a very fun character to play as. <font style="color:black">Boo <font style="color:black">Buddy Haunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) Quite simply my favourite Pokémon of all-time. 86.160.20.78 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) I never really use ganondorf. TheAtomic Fire  BluePichu.png 08:36, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) Because I spent countless hours trying to unlock him. Chuck  Norris  24.png  09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) I love the movie with Mew-two in it.Plus he's a good fighter in Melee. 75.156.151.215 10:16 17 August 2013
 * 11) I always loved playing as Mewtwo. He was a completely different type of character in Melee while Ganondorf is a clone of Captain Falcon.24.45.189.29 10:49, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) I like Mewtwo more. <font style="color:#0000FF">S <font style="color:#7F7FFF">c <font style="color:#00FFFF">r <font style="color:#FF7F00">7 Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) Mewtwo has got to be the best character in my opinion in Melee personality wise. I hate a majority of his special moves, but his recovery, forward aerial, and neutral special are all just so versatile. <font style="color:#FF0000">Wa <font style="color:#00FF00">shi Washi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 14) For me, this all comes down to who I like more in Smash King...and Mew-senpai is actually significantly less of an ass. Megi  Beelzebub  MegiBeelzebub.png 13:54, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) Underestimated, underappreciated... Bring him back! DarkFox01 DF01Sig.pnge your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 16) Because Pokémon, plain and simple.  James JH-Heartless.png Heart  14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 17) I hate his new form but the old one is boss. Terrible   is   Terrible  15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 18) Favorite legendary.75.31.4.16 00:33, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 19) Ganondorf SUCKS. -- Lava Kirby  16:57, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 20) Pokemon. End of story. Bulbaking (talk) 14:32, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 21) Dat Up Throw. <font style="font-family:arial narrow"><font style="color:royalblue">Lightning <font style="color:darkblue">Blue 405MS.png 23:03, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 22) I use him on my Ubers team. Mr.  <font color="midnightblue">Anon Anon.png  talk   22:15, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 23) I haven't played Mewtwo or melee, but ganondorf is just.. meh. Cobravictim (talk) 11:43, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 24) I'm more of a Pokémon fan than a Zelda fan. SeanWheeler (talk) 20:56, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


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Comments
The brown background for Ganondorf makes it really hard to see :/ Awesome   Cardinal   2000  21:48, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * Just highlight the text :P <font style="color:#0000FF">S <font style="color:#7F7FFF">c <font style="color:#00FFFF">r <font style="color:#FF7F00">7 Wolfsig.png 15:06, 19 August 2013 (EDT)


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Corneria vs. Venom
{|style="width:100%;"
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 * colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"| Winner!! Corneria [[Image:Corneria full.jpg|225px|center]] 20.5 to 10
 * colspan="2" style="width:36%; background:#bfbfbf; border:solid #8f6f00 5px;"|[[Image:Venom.jpg|225px|center]]
 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|Two perspectives of the Great Fox, one head-on and the other side-winding. Which configuration delights the nation?
 * colspan="3" style="width:50%; background:#bfbfbf; border:solid #9fbfdf 5px; padding:5px" valign="top"|
 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|Two perspectives of the Great Fox, one head-on and the other side-winding. Which configuration delights the nation?
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Votes for Corneria

 * 1) I like Corneria. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;"><font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP a i n 9 9  23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Corneria isn't the most balanced of stages, but at least it's fun to play on, especially for free-for-all four-player smashing. Venom is small and feels cramped while still being imbalanced. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) SNES Corneria music. Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) More running space.71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) Great stage. -- ﾚ∆ㄅ MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) More blandaced. Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) Corneria's the better planet...and stage. 86.160.20.78 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) This stage is actually pretty unique compared to the other one. Also I find it more enjoyable. - Conanshinichi 08:32, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) DO A BARREL ROLL! Chuck  Norris  24.png  09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) This one is sooo much more enjoyable! 75.156.151.215 10:13 17 August 2013
 * 11) More fun to play on IMO. <font style="color:#0000FF">S <font style="color:#7F7FFF">c <font style="color:#00FFFF">r <font style="color:#FF7F00">7 Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) This is my favorite starting place I like to fight most in Melee. (aside from Temple.) I really don't know why, I just love it here. <font style="color:#FF0000">Wa <font style="color:#00FF00">shi Washi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) My favorite banned stage in all 3 of the games so far. I love how it builds on the crappy Sector Z and makes the concept awesome. DarkFox01 DF01Sig.pnge your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 14) I actually like how this stage is as fun to play on as it is to look at. Plus, it isn't a Doom map look-a-like. Megi  Beelzebub  MegiBeelzebub.png 14:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) It was the first stage I ever played on in Melee and it has epic music. Definitely voting for Corneria. 110.174.90.69 22:59, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 16) Backed into a corner, I finally voted for Venom. Its music that is. Corneria wins because of the background and its presence in Brawl. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngtumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 17) I hate Corneria, but I hate Venom more. -- Lava Kirby  16:56, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 18) I've played on Corneria more. I know it better. Bulbaking (talk) 14:34, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 19) Corneria returned in SSBB and I played that game before SSBM so I didn't play in Venom until I got the gamecube emulator so I played Corneria more31.9.47.115 11:39, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 20) I like getting on top of the flying shooting jets :P Cobravictim (talk) 11:44, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

 * 1) I don't like the design of sector z. TheAtomic Fire  BluePichu.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAtomicFire (talk • contribs) 08:47, 17 August 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Venom

 * 1) More platforms mean this is by far the best stage in Melee and is the best stage I have ever seen in my life. Con  ny  Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) I was disappointed to not see this stage return for Brawl.  --HavocReaper 48  01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) I do not like either of these stages, but I pick this one because the Arwings are much less annoying. <font style="color:black">Boo <font style="color:black">Buddy Haunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) I'll vote based on music.  James JH-Heartless.png Heart  14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) The music is stuck in my head! Terrible   is   Terrible  15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) 75.31.4.16 00:34, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) Somewhat unique. Mr.  <font color="midnightblue">Anon Anon.png talk   22:15, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) <span style="background:#008080;border-top:solid blue 2px;border-right:solid lime 2px;border-bottom:solid lime 2px;border-left:solid blue 2px;color:cyan">Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) Makes me think of a Spider-Man villain, and I like Marvel even though this is more about Star Fox SeanWheeler (talk) 20:59, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


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Samus (SSB) vs. Pichu (SSBM) vs. Ganondorf (SSBB)
{|style="width: 100%;"
 * colspan="2" style="width:33%; background:#ff7f00; border:solid #ff0000 5px"|[[Image:Samus SSB.png|225x225px|center]]
 * colspan="2" style="width:33%; background:#ffff00; border:solid #000000 5px"|[[Image:Pichu SSBM.jpg|225x225px|center]]
 * colspan="2" style="width:33%; background:#5f0000; border:solid #000000 5px"|[[Image:Ganondorf SSBB.jpg|225x225px|center]]
 * colspan="6" style="background: #dfdfdf; text-align: center" valign="top"| Winner!! Pichu (SSBM) [[Image:Pichu SSBM.jpg|225x225px|center]] 7 to 15 to 9
 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|These unlucky Smashers have been trapped at the bottom of their respective tier lists, with their distinctive attributes conspiring against them in competitive play. Which will squeeze out a win for once?
 * colspan="2" style="width:33%; background:#ff7f00; border:solid #ff0000 5px; padding:5px" valign="top"|
 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|These unlucky Smashers have been trapped at the bottom of their respective tier lists, with their distinctive attributes conspiring against them in competitive play. Which will squeeze out a win for once?
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Votes for Samus (SSB)

 * 1) So much potential that hasn't even been seen, she is arguably the best out of the three and can beat anyone. She's so cool and Samus is awesome. Whoo! Con  ny  Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:29, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Samus is the best character out of all three, and the least worst in-game. -- ﾚ∆ㄅ MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) She might have not been good in this game, but she was a good character in Melee and Brawl. Pichu was horribly bad and Ganondorf was always a slower and almost unusable version of Captain Falcon. But it's just my opinion24.45.189.29 10:53, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) I like Samus the most out of these three.  James JH-Heartless.png Heart  14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) I like Zero Suit Samus. Oh, is this the 64 version? Well Pichu hurts itself with electricity and I don't use Ganon that much (he felt slow and heavy) so Samus it is. SeanWheeler (talk) 21:02, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Half votes

 * 1) The only non-clone, no contest. Now if Manandorf evolves into Ganondorf in Smash 4, that would be a whole different story. TheBakonBitz (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBakonBitz (talk • contribs) 15:06, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Samus has been there from the start, and she climbed up from her last space, but Ganondorf just fell and Pichu was there only at once —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cobravictim (talk • contribs) 11:46, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Pichu (SSBM)

 * 1) It's a Pokemon and it suits my playstyle the best out of the three. Also, how come Pichu's in this match instead of Kirby? Kirby lost that battle against Pichu and is now at the very bottom of the tier list.71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Cute. 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) Used to play Pichu all the time. Not familiar with the other 2. Oh and Ganondorf sucks so bad so he won't get it. - Conanshinichi 08:30, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) I can't stand to play as those characters in those games, but I still have good memories of playing    as pichu when I was a kid. TheAtomic  Fire  BluePichu.png 08:58, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) Because the Pichu Bros. in the anime made me smile. Chuck  Norris  24.png  09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) One vote for the cute electric suicide mouse!--Cakeizgud (talk) 10:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) I love Pichu sooo much! 75.156.151.217 10:11 17 August 2013
 * 8) <font style="color:#0000FF">S <font style="color:#7F7FFF">c <font style="color:#00FFFF">r <font style="color:#FF7F00">7 Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) Pichu actually has some good power behind his attacks, and in my opinion, the best recovery in the game. <font style="color:#FF0000">Wa <font style="color:#00FF00">shi Washi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) He's cute, fun to play as, and a very interesting addition to Melee. And he is so manly that he hurts himself. DarkFox01 DF01Sig.pnge your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 11) I just got a Pichu in Pokemon Pearl. Terrible   is   Terrible  15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) Pichu is just a weak Pikachu, and Pikachu is awesome.-- Lava Kirby  16:53, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) Pichu can be a powerhouse if raised right.   Bulbaking (talk) 14:37, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 14) Pichu is one of my favourite Pokemon and I love Pokemon and he/she is just so cute31.9.47.115 11:36, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) Is both fast and powerful. <span style="background:#008080;border-top:solid blue 2px;border-right:solid lime 2px;border-bottom:solid lime 2px;border-left:solid blue 2px;color:cyan">Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Ganondorf (SSBB)

 * 1) I like Ganon. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;"><font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP a i n 9 9  23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Out of all the low tier characters listed in the voting, Brawl Ganon is the most fun to play for me. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) Dair. Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Down Aerial.  --HavocReaper 48  01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) More fun to play than the other two. <font style="color:black">Boo <font style="color:black">Buddy Haunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) 75.31.4.16 00:34, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) Well this went out of date quickly. Poor Kirby. I like Pichu best as a character, but Ganondorf is definitely the most fun to play as. I feel as if I've typed this before. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngtumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) Zelda series ftw! Mr.  <font color="midnightblue">Anon Anon.png talk   22:14, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) Phat Wind Waker Ganon still owns. --174.59.4.202 00:23, 24 August 2013 (EDT)


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Kirby's last on the Melee tier list now.... Awesome  Cardinal   2000  21:51, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * I agree. Since Melee Kirby lost to Melee Pichu, I actually expected Kirby to be on this round instead, in addition to since he is said became last on the tier list shortly after that round. But since Pichu also has a long history of being struggled in the bottom tier and since he also doesn't appear in many SA matches as well, I'll give it to him this time. Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Kamehameha 22:03, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * Pichu is here because he won the Kirby (SSBM) vs. Pichu (SSBM) fight; the winner from that moving on to here was determined and publicized before that tier list was released.
 * Also I kind of think that the claimed 11th tier list isn't official, because I'm pretty sure it was never announced as such. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Non-Toxic 22:59, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * Well Kirby actually has some advantageous matchups while Pichu has no advantageous matchups and the matchup chart hasn't been updated to fit with the 11th tier list. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 17:28, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

I personally think it's dumb to have Pichu hurt itself with electric attacks. I mean, those are the same moves Pikachu uses and they don't hurt him. In fact the only Electric attacks that cause recoil damage in the Pokémon games are Volt Tackle and Wild Charge. Kirby is on the bottom in the Melee tier list? He was awesome in Brawl. Those multiple jumps and up special makes good recovery. I think Pichu should stay at the bottom. And I don't believe in the Tier Lists. SeanWheeler (talk) 21:33, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * Brawl Kirby =/= Melee Kirby. Melee Kirby was a severe nerf to Smash 64 Kirby. Simple as that. <font style="font-family:arial narrow"><font style="color:royalblue">Lightning <font style="color:darkblue">Blue 405MS.png 00:33, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
 * Don't use the Comments section to create a debate like which character is better in competitive play. Also, if you don't believe in tiers, read this. Awesome   Cardinal   2000  00:56, 24 August 2013 (EDT)


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Mario and Yoshi vs. Samus Unmasked
{|style="width:100%;"
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 * colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"| Winner!! Mario and Yoshi [[Image:Mario and Yoshi Trophy Melee.png|225px|center]] 23.5 to 9.5
 * colspan="2" style="width:36%; background:#ff7f00; border:solid #ff0000 5px;"|[[Image:Samus Unmasked Trophy.png|225px|center]]
 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|Melee's two event-only trophies are up next. Is the Mario or Metroid collectible more super?
 * colspan="3" style="width:50%; background:#ff0000; border:solid #00bf00 5px; padding:5px" valign="top"|
 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|Melee's two event-only trophies are up next. Is the Mario or Metroid collectible more super?
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Votes for Mario and Yoshi

 * 1) Freakin' Super Mario World!  James JH-Heartless.png Heart  23:36, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) The good old days. 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) A good duo. <font style="color:black">Boo <font style="color:black">Buddy Haunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Yoshi's face is priceless. - Conanshinichi 08:27, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) Super Mario world! TheAtomic Fire  BluePichu.png 08:41, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Why isn't Tamagon in this fight? Chuck  Norris  24.png  09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) I just love Yoshi so much, how could I NOT pick this?--Cakeizgud (talk) 10:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) I'm not gonna lie, Samus is cool, but I have to say Mario and Yoshi. 75.156.151.217 10:09 17 August 2013
 * 9) It gives me more memories. 24.45.189.29 10:54, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) <font style="color:#0000FF">S <font style="color:#7F7FFF">c <font style="color:#00FFFF">r <font style="color:#FF7F00">7 Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 11) I like Mario more than Samus. <font style="color:#FF0000">Wa <font style="color:#00FF00">shi Washi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) I chose this one because this trophey DOESN'T have a horribly rendered face of Emma Stone on it! Megi  Beelzebub  MegiBeelzebub.png 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) Super Mario Advance 2 was my first ever handheld game, and I was heartbroken when our GBA SP was stolen... with SMA2 in it! Either way, Super Mario World is an amazing game, and this reminds me of it when I see it. DarkFox01 DF01Sig.png a BitF fan 14:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 14) This game does it. Terrible   is   Terrible  15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) 75.31.4.16 00:35, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 16) Samus sucks, Mario and Yoshi are both awesome.-- Lava Kirby  16:50, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 17) Yeah I psyched about voting for Samus in the first place. This trophy is cool because of Yoshi. Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Arwing 19:42, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 18) The pose is better. I don't care about trophies, though. --Timson622222 (talk) 21:32, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 19) Better looking. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) 11:32, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 20) Yoshi Yoshi! Bulbaking (talk) 14:38, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 21) They are the old buddies plus I love Yoshi31.9.47.115 11:33, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 22) <span style="background:#008080;border-top:solid blue 2px;border-right:solid lime 2px;border-bottom:solid lime 2px;border-left:solid blue 2px;color:cyan">Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 23) --174.59.4.202 00:23, 24 August 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

 * 1) Yoshi was my fav until the awesomeness of the Typhoon Tailed Tortoise, Wartortle. Obvious Yoshi. The Wartortlemaster —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.208.252 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 23 August 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Samus Unmasked

 * 1) I like Samus Unmasked. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;"><font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP a i n 9 9  23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Best trophy in the game, and is the best of them all. No other is cooler. Con  ny  Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) This trophy reveals more than the other one. Yeah, we all know who Mario and Yoshi are, but this one gives away Samus's gender, something that was quite a mystery back in the day.71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) Yoshi will eat Samus regardless of how much armor she is wearing.  --HavocReaper 48  01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Even if Justin Bailey couldn't be of real help, I still vote for this. Roy  boy  X   Talk  15:24, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) That is a BEAUTIFUL face! --187.153.169.209 21:56, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) Reveals info otherwise not accesable in the game, which is interesting. Mr.  <font color="midnightblue">Anon Anon.png talk   22:14, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) Zero Suit Samus! Oh, just her face? Well at least she's shown as a girl. SeanWheeler (talk) 21:05, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Half votes

 * 1) Mario and Yoshi.. yaaawn.. samus unmasked is more special than 2 characters EVERYONE knows.. Cobravictim (talk) 11:49, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


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Villager vs. Wii Fit Trainer vs. Mega Man
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 * colspan="2" style="width:33%; background:#ff0000; border:solid #ffbf7f 5px"|[[Image:Villager SSB4.png|225x225px|center]]
 * colspan="2" style="width:33%; background:#00bfff; border:solid #4f4f4f 5px"|[[Image:Wii Fit Trainer SSB4.png|225x225px|center]]
 * colspan="2" style="width:33%; background:#0000ff; border:solid #00bfff 5px"|[[Image:Mega Man SSB4.png|225x225px|center]]
 * colspan="6" style="background: #dfdfdf; text-align: center" valign="top"| Winner!! Mega Man [[Image:Mega Man SSB4.png|225x225px|center]] 9.5 to 9 to 21
 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|Finally, it's time for SSB4's three initial newcomers. Will it be the kleptomaniac kid, the fitness fanatic, or the Blue Bomber?
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 * style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|Finally, it's time for SSB4's three initial newcomers. Will it be the kleptomaniac kid, the fitness fanatic, or the Blue Bomber?
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Votes for Villager

 * 1) 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Although I like all the newcomrs so far, I'll probably be playing the Villager the most when the game comes out. -- ﾚ∆ㄅ MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) He fights with an axe. TIMBER! <font style="color:black">Boo <font style="color:black">Buddy Haunter MS.png 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) I'll always like Animal Crossing. Plus the description says kleptomaniac! 75.156.151.217 10:05, 17 August 2013
 * 5) Does this look like the face of mercy?  James JH-Heartless.png Heart  14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Villager looks really interesting to play as and his memes are hilarious. 110.174.90.69 22:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) Tough, because Wii Fit Trainer was the most unexpected by far, Mega Man looks the most fun because of his projectile meteor smash, and Villager is a middle ground between them. I didn't predict Villager being in the game, and his moveset is very interesting. That middle ground is what puts it in Villager's favour. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngtumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) Luxray shall go against his fur color and choose the red character over the other blue characters. <font style="font-family:arial narrow"><font style="color:royalblue">Lightning <font style="color:darkblue">Blue 405MS.png 23:20, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) Pity vote. <span style="background:#008080;border-top:solid blue 2px;border-right:solid lime 2px;border-bottom:solid lime 2px;border-left:solid blue 2px;color:cyan">Bandit 17:20, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Half-votes

 * 1) He's the only character that can pick up anything without the help of items. He's OP when played correctly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.198.11.171 (talk • contribs) 08:36, 18 August 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Wii Fit Trainer

 * 1) Best character for Brawl 4. Con  ny  Airconny Snake Sig.png 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) My SSB4 main already.Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) The fact that absolutely no one wanted her in makes her that much more awesome.  --HavocReaper 48  01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) Killing everything with the Wii Fit trainer? Yes please!--Cakeizgud (talk) 09:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) Mega Man? The most hyped third party character after Sonic, who had his turn in Brawl. Villager? Still a relatively easily predicted newcomer. But Wii Fit Trainer? Totally out of left field. infernape 612  11:50, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) Everybody is hating her for some reason, so i'm gonna show some sympathy and vote for her. Multus Valde (talk) 08:46, 20 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) She isn't just a character, she's also a sort of symbol. If Sakurai just adds character X and Y few others who wield swords, guns or have a special ability again and bla bla bla new stages and bla bla bla new modes, there is going to be a serious Apollo 13 effect. The intrest is going to drop heavily unless something special happens. But can something so special happen, and in a good way? Wii Fit Trainer shows that Sakurai isn't going to give up, and is full of ideas. She shows that, even after fourteen years of Smash, the WHOLE community can join together and say: "What!?" instead of: "Oh, I was expecting that." She shows that Sakurai can not only talk the talk, but walk the walk. ...I dunno about you, but I have high hopes. :) --187.153.169.209 21:48, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) That was so unexpected, to add somebody non-playable in ssb4. So my vote goes to her, because of the surprise! Cobravictim (talk) 11:53, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) She has yoga pants and I find that attractive on girls (even though she looks like a mannequin). SeanWheeler (talk) 21:07, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


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Votes for Mega Man

 * 1) I like Mega Man. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;"><font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP a i n 9 9  23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 2) Mega Man makes the most sense to be appearing in a Smash game. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 3) Mega Man X is an awesome game. Do  t  s  [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 4) I'm one of those people who got really excited when I found out Mega Man is in the next Smash game. I really enjoy his franchise and look forward to playing as him in Smash. Besides, I have yet to play Animal Crossing or Wii Fit.71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 5) Super Fighting Robot - Megaman! 86.160.20.78 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 6) My favorite video game character. Nuff Said. TheAtomic Fire  BluePichu.png 09:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 7) Now I really want to get an NES Mega Man game. Chuck  Norris  24.png  09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 8) Robots are cool. <font style="color:#0000FF">S <font style="color:#7F7FFF">c <font style="color:#00FFFF">r <font style="color:#FF7F00">7 Wolfsig.png 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 9) MEGA. UPPER. <font style="color:#FF0000">Wa <font style="color:#00FF00">shi Washi signature.png 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 10) Took long enough, Sakurai! I'm going to play as him as soon as I can! DarkFox01 DF01Sig.png! 14:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 11) Villager is creepy, WFT is in the bottom of my SSB4 tier list, but Mega Man is god. Terrible   is   Terrible  15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 12) 75.31.4.16 00:36, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 13) i love mega man. He haves so many moves that i can use in super smash bros 4, he is a great fighterSmash X 5432 (talk) 11:49, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 14) Mega Man is going to be awesome. He is a unique character without any punches or kicks, and his move set is based off of Mega Man 2, the best Mega Man of them all (in my opinion). He's going to be the first character I will play as when I get the game.--Iguy2002 (talk) 13:07, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 15) I can always count on Mega Man. Even though I hate third-party characters, I'm cool with him. I just hope he's not an unlockable character.-- Lava Kirby  16:49, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 16) Just look at my nickname. JUST LOOK AT IT !!! ToonMegaman (talk) 23:20, 18 August 2013 (EDT) 23:20, 18 august 2013
 * 17) Robots destroy all! Bulbaking (talk) 14:39, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 18) Char I most predicted. My hopes for an AC char were quashed when Sakurai had said no to putting them in Smash, and Wii Fit Trainer made me go WTF. Roy  boy  X   Talk  15:25, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 19) Coolest imo. Mr.  <font color="midnightblue">Anon Anon.png talk   22:13, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 20) Megaman will win because of his popularity so I might as well vote for him31.9.47.115 11:30, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * 21) --174.59.4.202 00:23, 24 August 2013 (EDT)


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I would have picked Mega Man (because I want Mega Man to fight Sonic) but I thought the Wii Fit Trainer was kinda hot. And I never really cared about Animal Crossing. So Mega Man would have won if the Wii Fit trainer wasn't her or if she didn't make mannequins look good in yoga pants. Well, I don't think I can vote twice. SeanWheeler (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
 * Looks like Mega Man is winning. I'm okay with that. The next time I see him, I would vote for him (unless I like his opponent more). —Preceding unsigned comment added by SeanWheeler (talk • contribs) 19:16, August 22, 2013

Rule # 12: you may not make comments that relate to how close or one-sided a matchup is. Please bear that in mind and have a nice day. 71.105.121.171 22:57, 22 August 2013 (EDT)


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