Forum:Wanted game assets

Hey guys. So you may know that me and Disaster Flare recently finished (or as close as we are going to get for the moment) getting various assets and screenshots prepared for all character pages in all games. What I wanted to ask you guys is this: should we have something we don't? I am going to put a few suggestions for you guys to vote on below, but if you guys think of something that I didn't, feel free to add another. Thanks! Serpent   King   18:40, 21 December 2015 (EST)

Narrator chants for each character
Closed in failure The narration that plays when you select a character.


 * 1) I think this would be a good idea, and was actually something I felt should've been there ever since I joined the wiki. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  18:44, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 2) I could see some value in documenting this. As a side note, do we already have ''Brawls Wiimote noises that go with these? Nyargleblargle.png Nyargle blargle  (Contribs) 18:56, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Yes we do. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  18:56, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 1) Support. Seems like a good idea. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 2) Ehhh, less useful than crowd chants and selection sounds. It's just the announcer saying things, we're not supposed to keep a huge list of his quotes around. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

All-Star portraits
Closed in failure Portraits used to tell the player who they'll be battling next in All-Star mode.


 * 1) Support. I like anything that shows images of characters :P That, and I think this would be a nice addition. If not for every character, one or two to be used as an example on the All-Star mode pages. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 2) Oppose Upon consideration, this does seem like pointless bloat. Not really needed IMO. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   13:17, 22 December 2015 (EST)
 * 3) I said this on IRC once - anything that's just a different crop of existing official art is probably pointless. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Pokémon cries
Closed in failure Cries heard when releasing a Pokémon.


 * 1) I personally think that we should do this, and maybe even include the updated cries that they did for Gen VI (albeit Greninja for obvious reasons). We could also give the summon Pokémon this treatment too. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  18:44, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * I need to stop misreading things. XD Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  20:20, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 1) Support Summon Pokémon only; unneeded for the entrance animations IMO. Nyargleblargle.png Nyargle blargle'''  (Contribs) 18:56, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 2) Support Like Nyargle said, summons only. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Wait, is this for the sounds heard in Smash, or the sounds heard in the original Pokemon games? Because we definitely don't need the ones from the Pokemon games. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  20:18, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Smash. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   20:19, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Okay, good. Then yeah, I support. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  20:20, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 1) There might be a few of interest, but in general I don't really see a purpose to this. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Controller icons from Brawl
Closed in failure From the button config menu, could be used in our button nav template.


 * 1) Might as well use the official ones. Nyargleblargle.png Nyargle blargle'''  (Contribs) 19:17, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 2) Support Definitely should use official ones when possible. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * By the way, this is what I have to work with here. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   13:22, 22 December 2015 (EST)
 * 1) Impossible-to-overcome inconsistency with all other button icons. Absolutely never going to happen. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)
 * Could it be acceptable to at least upload the controller icons themselves (not the buttons)? Serpent  SKSig.png  King   13:36, 22 December 2015 (EST)
 * For what purpose? What would they accomplish that we're currently missing? Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Spark 14:42, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Masterpiece icons
Closed in success Preview shots from masterpieces.


 * 1) Support Might be worth putting on the Masterpiece pages. Disaster Flare  Disaster Flare signature image.png  (talk)  19:06, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 2) Per DF. Nyargleblargle.png Nyargle blargle'''  (Contribs) 19:17, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 3) Support Absolutely a great idea. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 4) Could have merit I suppose, if it's not just reused title screen/box art. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Ok so I got the SSB4 masterpiece previews done and uploaded, I just have to get the Brawl ones done. Coming soon! Serpent   King   03:01, 24 January 2016 (EST)

Subspace Emissary preview icons
Closed in success Preview icons for each stage in Subspace Emissary.


 * 1) We should use stage preview icons wherever we can't get an image without players at native resolution. Nyargleblargle.png Nyargle blargle'''  (Contribs) 19:17, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 2) Neutral to oppose: Seems like overkill to me, but I figured I'd bring it up anyway. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   19:23, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 3) Support Sounds useful. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  20:01, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * 4) Same priority as event match icons really: okay, but not mandatory. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Coming soon! Serpent   King   03:01, 24 January 2016 (EST)

Smash Tour Character voice clips
Closed in failure Smash Tour fighter collection voice clips for each character.

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Can I hard oppose most of these? We're not VG Resource and shouldn't be trying to dump copious file rips on every possible page. I think the question to ask before adding anything like these is "how much does the article really need this?" For example, Announcer is a useful point of comparison and necessary since text descriptions don't cover audio comparisons well. However, I would strongly oppose adding a full list of all of those types of clips. Miles ( talk)  19:39, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Well the only ones I really have my heart set on are the Pokemon cries and narrator names. I want (most) of the rest, but I would be highly disappointed if I couldn't included those 2. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   19:44, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * I think anything that shows more about the subject is relevant, and most of this would. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  19:59, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * We really have absolutely no reason to have sound clips for the Poke Ball Pokemon. Whatsoever. Miles ( talk)   23:00, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Except it's relevant to our series. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   23:02, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * We don't include general sound clips for playable characters (and shouldn't); I fail to see why we would want that for summons. Miles ( talk)   23:04, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Why wouldn't we? The Pokemon pages are mostly lacking in media anyway, what's wrong with adding a little more? Serpent  SKSig.png  King   23:08, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Lack of need; seems like general page-content bloat of negligible added value. Miles ( talk)   23:11, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * I don't see a reason why we shouldn't, though? Like, it adds information ("what does the cry sound like?" "oh okay") but doesn't remove anything or make it worse? Even if it's pointless information, there's no such thing as bad expansion. (I mean, unless it's vandalism, or false... But besides that, no such thing as bad expansion.) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  23:16, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * I can see we are not going to agree on this one, so let's hear what the others have to say. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   23:18, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Am I not an others? D: ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  23:19, 21 December 2015 (EST)

You are, but I meant more "others" 3-1 on most of these isn't exactly consensus. Serpent   King   23:23, 21 December 2015 (EST)
 * Fair point. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY  CLAWS ! Or maybe DatNuttyKid.  23:28, 21 December 2015 (EST)

I agree that we shouldn't have exhaustive rips of every single thing that's relevant to a page's subject; we're about information, not a source of game files, and I don't really see how a bunch of sound clips is helpful there. Toomai Glittershine The Superlative 13:31, 22 December 2015 (EST)
 * I'm still not seeing where having the Pokemon cries would be pointless. I don't see where it's a bad thing to have a piece of media on otherwise almost bare-text pages. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   13:35, 22 December 2015 (EST)
 * We don't fill in the "notable players" sections of character pages just to stop them from looking empty. Files have to have a purpose, and if the only purpose is "so we have them", that's kind of veering out of "fair use" territory. Toomai Glittershine [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Spark 14:42, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Global oppose on everything (with the possible, debatable exception of SSE previews) per Miles and Toomai, especially with respect to soundbites as I don't feel they serve any truly useful role: in my view (as a regular user with no wiki position) pages should be mainly about how things work, and sounds have a negligible part in it. Also echoing Toomai's doubts about fair use. --Menshay (talk) 06:56, 23 December 2015 (EST)

Comments
So as it stands, I am currently leaning towards a yes on narrator names, no on All-Star portraits, yes on Pokemon cries, yes on controller icons, yes on masterpiece icons, and neutral on SSE preview icons. Serpent   King   13:15, 22 December 2015 (EST)
 * So now I am thinking of doing only masterpiece icons and SSE previews. All other stuff seems to lack support. Serpent  SKSig.png  King   22:08, 2 January 2016 (EST)