Smasher talk:Perón

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Even if Perón has retired from the scene since 2021, there hasn't been a notable Peach Main in the Argentinian scene since the beginning of Ultimate, and Perón is one of the few notable Peach Mains in South America as a whole, as he was consistent enough during the strongest era of in the Argentinian Meta. --Tacho99 (talk) 19:31, January 11th, 2024 (EDT)

At this point I am just making sure there's no bias towards ur own scene and proper argument is needed. I see a few other tagged smasher pages having a better case than this one certainly. Maybe I am just not seeing it yet. However, I believe that this smasher results are at best mediocre. "Being one of the few notable Peach mains in South America" maybe it's claimed by the community but it doesn't mean they are necessarily fitting by wiki standard. Maybe he was consistent sure but not consistently good enough like he didn't "achieve strong results in the region" like SW:NOTABLE said. The results don't look particularly strong imo. And if you would like to mention wins again then I believe you are treating wins too seriously almost like it's a deciding factor. But I don't see it being the same league as placements, certainly not more important than placings ofc. Grand Dad.png NPM Morr!? A legit emoji in the Smash Asia server. 06:22, January 22, 2024 (EST)
I admit that players from the Argentinian community had troubles with consistency during the 2019 era, but I factor in not only Wins, but also H2H, international wins, importance at regional/continental level/character notoriety, placements at regionals/nationals, etc.
Wins are important for me, because as a reader it is one of the first things I read whenever a look up the article of a member of the Community. Nevertheless, there were players you tagged for deletion that were valid like Weon Pequeño and Obaba, but I will still argue over the ones that you acused wrongly. Not based on bias, but on facts.
Also, is kinda hypocrite saying that "I'm treating wins too seriously" when you are constantly treating placings WAY too seriously. Hope one day we can come to an agreement with this. --Tacho99 (talk) 11:07, January 25th, 2024 (EDT)
Again, you are probably overthinking this way too much. It's natural that people look into placements first before wins to determine if the players are good. If the player has rather poor placements then their wins can possibly make up for it especially when it's in good quality. (like Tempaman for example tho that's an extreme case) The way I see it is that wins are just complementing somebody's placings which is why it feels like placings have some sort of priority. Now especially with the new infobox parameters I tested and theorized it can come in handy to determine notability and people will be looking at the smashers' absolute best placements and maybe rankings before the wins. And if the best tourney result is already a lackluster one then it is easy to assume only other factors like actual real good wins can prove someone's case. Grand Dad.png NPM Morr!? A legit emoji in the Smash Asia server. 12:26, February 14, 2024 (EST)
Yeah I support this (Here's the Smashdata). Graou (talk) 01:59, February 19, 2024 (EST)
Btw u forgot to sign ur post. And smashdata doesn't really show the full picture of Argentine smashers' results. They have a lot of challonge brackets so it's impossible to judge based on only sources from start.gg. With that being said if most of the challonge results are also poor then there isn't really that much argument left. Grand Dad.png NPM Morr!? A legit emoji in the Smash Asia server. 02:47, February 19, 2024 (EST)