SmashWiki talk:SmashWiki YouTube channel

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Quality[edit]

In order to do this, we would need a capture card, and an SD card, assuming that the owner of said card does not want to waste his/her time with friend cdoes. Does an admin have this? MegaTron1XD:p 22:05, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


I oppose, because this seems rather unnecessary. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

OK, I reread what Toomai's proposition said, and it seems it would work. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:16, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
Also, a method of recording could be using emulators and simply recording the screen. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

I Incredibly support this idea, i'd also like to help with it but i don't have a way to... unless someone knows the name of a device that can record through the AV ports in a TV. I really think this idea might increase the readers to the wiki, not only will they be great to watch and informative, but if we put some "see more" links within the video people who hang around YouTube watching "combo videos" and such might be more interested in coming here.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 22:12, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

I just want to elaborate on my point a little more, I also like love this suggestion because it's a new and bold move, it's a different direction for a wiki and might be so sucessful that others might decide to follow this idea if it hasn't already been done. Someone always has to be the first, and I want it to be us.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 03:30, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
Actually we are not the first - the Official Team Fortress Wiki is, and it's where I got the idea from, combined with the recent discussion of linking to videos of cutscenes. Toomai Glittershine ??? The SMASH-GINEER 12:49, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

It would be convenient, but would we have enough uploaders to make this worthwhile? Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:14, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Support I love it. Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 22:58, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Support Great idea. Unknown the Hedgehog 23:00, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Neutral: While I don't think this is a terrible idea, it seems unwiki-ish to me. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 23:19, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Support Interesting way to branch out. --HavocReaper48 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Weak support. It's an interesting idea, I will admit, but by itself, this Wiki really doesn't seem to use many YouTube videos. Considering this, I doubt that we'd actually need a YouTube channel. But I wouldn't complain if we got one. ReiDemon 23:35, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Can someone explain what kind of video's will be uploaded if this passes? Because I want to know that before I vote. Support people can learn from it. But I am too young for YouTube :P--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 04:55, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Also, I have a emulator and a Brawl ROM, but the recording is not of perfect quality because I have to use Hypercam which refuses to work well with Dolphin. I can't use Fraps because THAT makes Dolphin crash.--FalcoHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 05:43, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Support. This will also nullify the risk of Youtube videos being deadlinked in articles ahead. Smiddle 君怒る? 11:07, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Support - Good idea. We won't need to rely on videos by other users and we can finally upload and submit glitches/techniques without video or picture evidence. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 14:15, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Support I'm right behind you above. ..... I think so.... WolfHeadSSBB.png S454 18:02, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Support Probably not going to contribute much, but good idea.-Ivy73002MS.png 10:03, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

If this passes[edit]

Want me to create the channel? I'll give the admins and anyone from SmashWiki(minus trolls/vandals) who wants to upload a video the password. Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 14:35, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

We already have a Google account, in all likelihood the channel would be attached to it. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Honcho 14:42, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
And in the slight chance that that won't be the case? Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 15:00, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
I would rather have an admin create the account. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 15:04, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

I'm the one who runs the SmashWiki Gmail account. The YT channel "SmashWiki" is now ours. Miles (talk) 17:59, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Any ideas on what the first video will be? ReiDemon 18:01, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
I'm just a middle-man here for videos. I'd be glad to do a test-upload if someone wants to provide me with a video. smashwikidian[at]gmail.com Miles (talk) 18:47, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Um[edit]

Shouldn't there be a link to the channel on the main page? Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 19:48, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

This is still under development, so not quite yet, if at all. The sidebar would probably be a better place for it. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 {ROLLBACKER} 19:49, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
Once we have a submissions policy, it can get a place somewhere. Until then, it'll wait. Miles (talk) 20:01, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Is this good?[edit]

I got a (little slowed down) .avi video of the Green Shell glitch in SSB which I have recorded with Fraps from an emulator! Is that a good video to upload?--FalcoHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 10:37, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

It should be. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:06, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
How can I get it uploaded?--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 12:14, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
Send it to the SmashWiki email. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:20, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
I think you mean "smashwikidian[at]gmail.com", as Miles said? I have to know for sure, because it may be something else (I've never heard of a SmashWiki email adress).--FalcoHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 12:22, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
That's the one. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:36, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
Done.--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 13:28, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
I also recorded the Teleport glitch in SSB with Jigglypuff, though I am not completely sure. Would that also be good?--FoxHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 06:49, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
Yeah, I think it is the teleport glitch.--FoxHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 11:01, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

Um[edit]

Any new videos? Blindcolours TONDA GOSSA. 23:43, 30 September 2011 (EDT)

I have a pretty crappy video of a Pikachu chain throw in SSB, but it seems too short to warrant an entire video.
Does anyone know a video to gif converter? ReiDemon 23:45, 30 September 2011 (EDT)
I do ReiDemon! It's called VirtualDub or something.--FoxHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 04:35, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

You know[edit]

I think we also need some entertainment video's or a smachinama-like thing. I know something: 4 level 9 CPU Marths (or 3 CPUs and a player) with 1 HP on Bridge of Eldin or Temple :P--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 12:27, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

Yeah....no....We're SmashWiki not an entertainment siteBlindColours ...PUNCH!!! 12:28, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
Damn right. But the Marth thing still has my support.--FoxHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 12:32, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
Because the Smash Arena clearly is not for entertainment. ReiDemon 12:33, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
Wolf, your idea would entertain nobody. BlindColours ...PUNCH!!! 12:35, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
I only meant one little thing! Then don't directly go "Wolf, your idea would entertain nobody"!--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 12:41, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
I'm just wondering what "entertainment" your idea provides. BlindColours ...PUNCH!!! 12:46, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
Well yeah that probably wasn't the right word. But it does have Brawl in it, and it's not unfunny right? But I'll leave it.--FoxHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 12:48, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

The SmashWiki youtube channel will stick to informative videos. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:11, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

Okay, forget what I said. I have a replay of a weird level 9 CPU Marth AI bug on Temple in Brawl. Is that useful?--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 11:06, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
I would like to see it first, though it sounds it may be legit. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 14:44, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
I think I need to send it to you first, right?--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 11:21, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
Yes. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:47, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
And that can't be done without knowing your Wii code thing, right?--FoxHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 10:36, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

Can we[edit]

Add this to the Main Page? BlindColours ...PUNCH!!! 10:24, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

I would agree with that proposal. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:13, 15 October 2011 (EDT)
Here's the question. Should we have a link that links to the project page or directly to the YouTube channel? I would be in favour of either, but think it would be more useful for the average visitor if the link led to the YouTube channel. DokteurPain99 12:19, 15 October 2011 (EDT)
Maybe we can also put the latest vid on the main page. Anyways, I think a link to the channel.--WolfHeadSSBB.png PSIWolf (TCE) 12:20, 15 October 2011 (EDT)
"SmashWiki now has its own youTube Channel. For informatin on how to participate, check out this page."
Think that could work? ReiDemon 12:25, 15 October 2011 (EDT)
You linked the wrong page :P. I fixed it. I think it would work. DokteurPain99 12:26, 15 October 2011 (EDT)
That would work, and I think we could have the most recent video up as well. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:35, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

What the heck?[edit]

So I was watching a video and at the bottom of the like/dislike bar was a button that said "remix this video!". I clicked it and it led me to the Youtube video editor. Anyone know why? BlindColours ...PUNCH!!! 15:17, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

Oh..I see...reuse is allowed under license. BlindColours ...PUNCH!!! 15:18, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

Monetization[edit]

The channel has received an invitation from YouTube to use advertising for monetization purposes. Am I correct in assuming that we'd be okay with this? Ideally, I'd set up the channel's AdSense account to send the money to Porple, in order to help cover our hosting costs. Miles (talk) 16:34, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

Yes. PenguinofDeath 16:37, 19 October 2011 (EDT)
Before I answer I'd like to hear from Purple that that is even a possibility. Really not interested in having a site I helped build be sold again. – Emmett 17:23, 19 October 2011 (EDT)
Porple says we're financially fine for now, presumably from the on-site ads. Is there some other purpose we could use the money from this for? Miles (talk) 17:39, 19 October 2011 (EDT)
Just so you know, this messsge isn't special, I got a similar one for my YouTube account. BlindColours o_0 18:58, 19 October 2011 (EDT)
I know, I just figured since it was the community's channel I should consult before taking action. Maybe we should save up to try and buy smashwiki.com back from Wikia...? Miles (talk) 19:07, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

I don't know if it will be of any help[edit]

but along with Miles, I am able to record and edit videos for the YT site as well. I can be reached at 25timmy16 at gmail.com 25T16It’s a me! 16:48, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

Got a video of SSB Debug menu[edit]

Due to the large size of the file (because of the format of the program I used), I'm going to upload this onto youtube myself, and make it so that only the Smashwiki account can view the video. After that, Miles (or OT) can copy the video and upload it themselves. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 21:07, 4 November 2011 (EDT)

How large are we talking here? Miles (talk) 21:34, 4 November 2011 (EDT)
The video itself isn't very long (only about 5 minutes), but the recording device I used saved it as a flash file, so I have to upload it directly. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 22:32, 4 November 2011 (EDT)
Damnit, I am unable to convert my file from .swf to a video file. If someone can find a free, reliable program for macs that does not leave a watermark, please refer to one. Again, I had a really good video of the debug mode, demonstrating all of SSB64's hackable features, but I am unable to put in on youtube since it is a .swf file. However, if Miles and OmegaTyrant are fine with watermarks, I can simply re-record it using a better program that unfortunately does leave a watermark. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 19:56, 6 November 2011 (EST)

YESH![edit]

I just found a better screen recording program and I have now shared videos of both the 64 debug menu and Kirby's SSB moveset. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 22:08, 6 November 2011 (EST)

The first video you sent I think was a mistake.
The second one had no audio and had your cursor over the middle of the screen. Neither of those is really a good thing. Miles (talk) 22:21, 6 November 2011 (EST)
I can fix that, if you want. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 22:24, 6 November 2011 (EST)
What you just sent me still lacked audio, still had your cursor on the screen, and also clearly showed your emulator and the rest of your screen. Miles (talk) 22:35, 6 November 2011 (EST)
Also, be sure that any other videos you intend to submit don't have these problems (specifically the debug video). Miles (talk) 22:39, 6 November 2011 (EST)
OK, I have fixed the sound and cursor problems in the Kirby vid. I can't do much about the emulator thing, but if it really matters that much, youtube should allow you to crop it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Anon (talkcontribs) 21:47, 6 November 2011
Not to be rude, Anon, but the audio should only be the game audio. I should not be able to hear your keyboard. Miles (talk) 22:49, 6 November 2011 (EST)
YouTube doesn't give the option to crop, methinks. A dedicated video editing software, such as Sony Vegas 9, however, could do the trick. --- ReiDemon, Writer Extraordinaire, 22:50, 6 November 2011 (EST)
I'm sorry Miles, but that is not something I can deal with. That is the best I can get, and if that does not qualify, then I am sorry. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 22:52, 6 November 2011 (EST)

Resubmit[edit]

Miles, I strongly urge you to reconsider your rejection. That video that I spend many hours trying to get a good recording of is one of, if not the, best videos you can find of the SSB 64 debug menu. Note that the debug menu can only be accessed from emulators, so there's not reason to reject it just because I recorded it from my computer. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 00:21, 10 December 2011 (EST)

I Agree with Mr. Anon. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 05:32, 10 December 2011 (EST)
Fix the problems Miles pointed out (only seeing the game screen and not whole computer screen, hearing ingame audio, and not hearing external audio, such as you typing on the keyboard). Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 09:27, 10 December 2011 (EST)
Again, I can't record internal audio without also recording external audio, and in the video you can see very little outside of the emulator video (not sure if you can see anything at all). Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 16:14, 10 December 2011 (EST)

So...[edit]

Any new videos on the horizon? BlindColours Boing.png 21:49, 26 November 2011 (EST)

I've been busy with other things, so no, there are not any new videos from myself in the foreseeable near future. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:00, 26 November 2011 (EST)
I had some pretty good videos, but they did not meet Miles' standards of quality. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 22:02, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Request deletion of my Test video.[edit]

It provides nothing, and it was more of a test to see how well my emulator and screen capture program would work. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 16:19, 10 December 2011 (EST)

Problems logging in[edit]

I keep trying to log into the channel, and each time I do, whether it's through our Goggle account or Youtube account, it just redirects back to whatever page I was on while not signing in. And I have not been having this problem with my own Youtube account. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 20:29, 15 January 2012 (EST)

Odd, I'm having no trouble. Miles (talk) 21:08, 15 January 2012 (EST)
Apparently, it was some problem involving my cookies/cache. Clearing them fixed it. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 07:21, 16 January 2012 (EST)

The Flop Block[edit]

I recorded a video demonstrating The Flop Block, to be uploaded to the SmashWiki YouTube channel. OT, if you want to come to IRC and exchange Skype details, I can send the video to you, or I can send it to Toomai if he wants to deal with it. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 20:07, 18 March 2013 (EDT)

Monetisation and paying contributors[edit]

I have an idea to encourage people to submit videos to the channel more often (and thus, get us more videos, views, and traffic to the Wiki);

I can monetise the account under my name. Then with the channel monetised, I can distribute the money earned to contributors based on the amount of money their contributions have made for the channel. Users however, can opt for their video to not be monetised, or for the earnings of their video to be donated to Porplemontage to cover hosting.

Are users here fine with this, or does anyone have a strong objection to this idea? Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 07:00, 2 April 2013 (EDT)

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggghhh ads :|
I'll have to think on this, I have zero knowledge of this process at all. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Sphere 07:15, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
Ad block :p
And for the process, each month or so, if over 100 had been earned, the money would be sent to my bank account. From there, I can distribute the money to participating contributors and Porplemontage. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 07:17, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
Earning extra money for the wiki and its contributors would be beneficial in my eyes, even without the bonus of potentially bringing in new contributors. Ads aren't much of a pain, it's usually only a six-second wait before you can skip them. I support as long as you know for sure that you can see where the channel's earnings came from. I'm not experienced with YouTube monetisation, so I wouldn't know if YouTube made you aware of which videos were bringing in the coins. If the option is there, then go ahead. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 07:22, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
In anayltics, you can view the individual earnings of each video. If anyone suspects they were jipped out, I can take screenshots of it for them. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 07:27, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
I still think adblock will ruin everything. But if you want to do this, go ahead, I have adblock myself :>--PSIWolf a.k.a. Luna! 07:29, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
Eh, a great idea in my opinion. Will greatly help improve the channel and others will definitely help to contribute if they know about it. I can live with the ads, I mean, I just minimize the web browser and do something else in the time being...But, if users are going to be payed, will an online money account (like PayPal) have to be opened or something? Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png 09:11, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
I have absolutely zero knowledge of this process, but wouldn't monetizing our channel open the possibility of us getting sued by Nintendo for profiting on their games/characters/whatever? Or does it not work like that? Air Conditioner AC.png IS RIGHT BEHIND YOU 09:29, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
Lots of Let's Players out there are able to make money from uploading their games, SmashWiki would be no better or worse. YouTube did offer the channel the chance to monetise themselves, after all. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 10:09, 2 April 2013 (EDT)

@Airconny: Yes, one would need a PayPal or something else that would allow me to transfer them the money with ease. If they don't have one and can't create one for whatever reason, I could try mailing a check to them (assuming their earned amount isn't very insignificant). Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 11:49, 2 April 2013 (EDT)

Oh, okay. But, if they decide not to opt for a PayPal and decide to just receive the check, would you just save their sum and after theirs has reached a significant amount, then you would send it over to them? just want to clear this up before others start questioning about this procedure. -- Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png 12:05, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
If their earned sum is very small, then yes, I would save it up for it to grow a bit before mailing the check. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:10, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
Ah, okay. This is so no one else will bother to ask it if it's been answered. Thanks you, and I have a video I will submit to you later. Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png 12:21, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
I've got two videos lined up too. Watch them be the same thing. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 13:05, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
Noooo, I got something WAY different. I know, I can just feel it in my gut. Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png 14:04, 2 April 2013 (EDT)

If no one has any strong objections, I'll start the monetisation process later today. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 07:31, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

Project Hitbox...[edit]

So, based on a message I wrote on Toomai's user talk, "I recently conceived an idea with OT on demonstrating hitboxes with most of the SSBB characters". Basically, we are (depending if you are in it or not) going to create demonstrations of characters performing their moves with their frame data and such, while also showcasing their hitboxes. Now, it's really simple to get the hitboxes running. A quick search on Google will reveal to many their .pac files to activate their Brawl 'hitboxes'. Now, it's going to look something like this:

This isn't final, however.

So, if you would like to join this project, you may sign yourself up. However, time and patience is what we are going to need, and commitment. If you say you are going to do a characters hitbox data, and you don't, it'll slowly impede out movement, as once you pick a character, they will be reserved for you until done.

This thread should help those who need to config their game to look like the image above.

It would also be preferred if you could first record the move in full speed, then show the move again slowed down, either by frame-by-frame or by setting the game speed to "slow" or "1/4", depending if it's a replay or done in training mode. If you don't have access to a video editing software, you may send your video to any user who has these programs (such as Sony Vegas 12 Pro), such as myself, and we'll do the rest, crediting you for the replays.

Snake is taken as of right now (as always). Airconny Airconny Snake Sig.png 16:58, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

Contribution idea[edit]

I was looking around a page that showed articles in need of videos but after I looked at all of them I felt those were very complicated. Then I got an idea for one technique I can show: Koopa Hopping. This technique only works with Bowser. In order to do it, do a short hop, do his side special, jump, side special, jump and repeat. This technique is useful for improving his mobility and approach and letting him fade in and out with aerials or flying slams.LordGanondorf (talk) 16:22, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

A video on Koopa Hopping can be done (since the only real video on it I found on Youtube was a camcorder video from five years ago). However, it'll have to be quite comprehension, showing how to do it and applications of it, rather than just a demonstration. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:51, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

I will work on it later today.LordGanondorf (talk) 09:15, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

???[edit]

This more abandoned than the IRC, before SK came PoultrysigSSB4.pngPoultryPoultrysigSSBM.png(talk) the Team Liquid 16:10, 29 March 2016 (EDT)

Yeah, we should do something to try and spruce it up. Maybe this could be helpful here? BaconMasterBaconMasterSig.png 16:18, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
I don't see how abandonment justifies uploading videos that stray from the original purpose of the channel. MegaTron1Decepticon.png 16:58, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
It was just a suggestion (I too would like some informational-ish videos) and I only really brought it up in case there was nothing else to upload and nobody minded. BaconMasterBaconMasterSig.png 17:01, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
I'd be willing to do character moveset showcases if we're willing to turn the other cheek on the framerate rule. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 17:41, 29 March 2016 (EDT)