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It's been a while since my last contribution to the wiki, but I feel like this is a worthy one to talk about again.

Back in 2017, I observed a problem in the way we handle Attributes sections on our character pages. We would make frequent reference to a character's attributes – how fast they run, how slow they fall, and the like – but the exact numbers were nearly never listed anywhere on the page, and how those numbers ranked among the cast were not often referenced, either. If you wanted to examine a character's stats, you had to individually pick their stats out of every attribute page on the wiki.

The solution I posited to this problem was the CharacterPhysics template, talk page linked here. Serpent King kinda had to bail my terrible code out, but the idea behind this solution received nearly no pushback. The only reason behind it not being implemented was that it looked horrible. It took up too much space, threw off formatting, and tried to cram itself with every bit of information it could possibly muster.

This template does not.

A couple things I want to point out:

  • CharacterPhysics had an entire subsection, labelled "abilities", which I cut out for this iteration, because those have their home directly above a character's moveset anyway (e.g. "Sheik can crawl, wall cling, and wall jump"), and don't need to be listed twice.
  • The code I have was made for a fan project and has Ultimate in mind, so it does not include a jumpsquat section, which the original did. I think this is important to maintain for pre-Ultimate Smash games, but I haven't puzzle out how to write a field that deletes itself if no value is filled in in wikitext. I think we could squeeze it in as a secondary value for the Jumps column, like how both base and additional air acceleration are present in the Air Acceleration column.
  • CharacterPhysics also had a "ranking" section that did exactly what it sounds like it would do, but it was one of the things that took up a lot of space in the original template. An issue we ran into with the last version of the table was that we wanted to avoid using hidden rollover text, because back then, there was no way for mobile users to see it. Since 2017, rollover text has been updated to support mobile users by letting you view rollover text by clicking on the displayed text. Again, I have no idea how to code this, but I think we should add the ranking of each stat to the template as rollover text (e.g. clicking on Ganondorf's weight value and seeing it replaced by "5th out of 82"). This is important to implement, because for users not familiar with the general ranges of these values, the numbers will be meaningless.

If this goes through, it would be implemented on all character pages at the top of each attributes section. Please discuss. This is for my signature.
Hello to those of you who have found this page, I hope you have a nice day. Nymbare and his talk 04:39, June 21, 2020 (EDT)

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