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I'm satisfied we finally can get rid of those controversial, heavy opinion based Pros & Cons. With this new attribute or something section, we would need to get sort of the strategy section merged? And wouldn't having it as list form rather than paragraph make it more of a neutral point of view. - [[User:Hatake91|Hatake91]] ([[User talk:Hatake91|talk]]) 01:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm satisfied we finally can get rid of those controversial, heavy opinion based Pros & Cons. With this new attribute or something section, we would need to get sort of the strategy section merged? And wouldn't having it as list form rather than paragraph make it more of a neutral point of view. - [[User:Hatake91|Hatake91]] ([[User talk:Hatake91|talk]]) 01:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:Strategies don't really have a place in a character article. Valuable information can be pulled from strategy guides and cited as a reference, however these are not supposed to be instructional guides and we don't want to make the mistake of telling people how to play as though there is a right and wrong way to do it. We should be reporting ''fact'' not inferences based on fact. As to list form, it's not how the information is presented that makes it neutral or not; it's what is being said. Adding a bullet point beside a biased statement doesn't remove its bias. It's best to use your judgment as writers to present the information fairly and fluidly; the format that it takes is a personal preference, I suppose.  --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 17:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)





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Project Comments

Post any questions, suggestions, comments, death threats, etc. that you may have for this project below. I'll do what I can to clarify any issues you might run into! --RJM Talk 22:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm satisfied we finally can get rid of those controversial, heavy opinion based Pros & Cons. With this new attribute or something section, we would need to get sort of the strategy section merged? And wouldn't having it as list form rather than paragraph make it more of a neutral point of view. - Hatake91 (talk) 01:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Strategies don't really have a place in a character article. Valuable information can be pulled from strategy guides and cited as a reference, however these are not supposed to be instructional guides and we don't want to make the mistake of telling people how to play as though there is a right and wrong way to do it. We should be reporting fact not inferences based on fact. As to list form, it's not how the information is presented that makes it neutral or not; it's what is being said. Adding a bullet point beside a biased statement doesn't remove its bias. It's best to use your judgment as writers to present the information fairly and fluidly; the format that it takes is a personal preference, I suppose. --RJM Talk 17:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)








Phase 1

There's a lot more work to be done on this project than will ever get done, I know that, but ya gotta start somewhere. I've been fiddling with this project management template for SmashWiki in the hopes of breathing some piping hot life into it. There are several additional phases to be added at a later date as I continue to compile them behind the scenes, but for the moment, we have some information on putting together a proper Character article.

Currently, Brawl is the focus because I expect I'll be able to incite the most interest from editors as well as see tangible results of the work we complete. Melee and 64 sections of the Character "phase" will be coming. In the meantime, please read it over, tell me what you think and maybe poke away at some of the stuff I've outlined--or suggest new stuff! Whateva.

Any questions? --RJM Talk 22:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Randal, great ideas here. I've been wanting to get rid of the pros and cons section for characters for months, and I'm glad that we're finally going to do it. That being said, would you have a problem if I added (either to this project or to another area) information on what is considered acceptable names for things? Like you said in the intro, many people are creating pages like "The Sonic Combo on Conveyor Belts" that is just his d-smash that happens to be done on a conveyor belt. I'm equally tiered of these things popping up, but even more tiered of not having a policy or project to point to when the people start bitching on my (or yours, or Rita's etc.) talk page. Would you want something like that added here or on another page? Again, great ideas; I look forward to getting started. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 23:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
It's hard to place conditions and criteria on acceptable names. As sysops, I almost think we need to continue to handle those on a case-by-case basis as Brawl grows in popularity. We'll be able to filter out what's legitimate and what isn't by sourcing out the information. There does need to be some sort of policy that at least offers some guidelines for those writing up stuff about their own techniques and what not. However, that's further down the line in another "phase" of the project. I don't want to get too sidetracked because there's a lot to cover and if we're going to do it, we may as well do at once and do it right. Thanks for the input, though, I'll bear that in mind as I continue to expand this project page. --RJM Talk 14:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)