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#'''Oppose''' Third party controllers aren't notable in the grand scheme of things. They may be widely used, but everyone also knows they're third party and don't really think anything of it. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 13:44, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
#'''Oppose''' Third party controllers aren't notable in the grand scheme of things. They may be widely used, but everyone also knows they're third party and don't really think anything of it. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 13:44, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
#'''Oppose''' I'd say no as per above. My hesitation before was how notable third party controllers are in terms of ''Smash'', but it seems like it's not that notable/used. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 15:44, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
#'''Oppose''' I'd say no as per above. My hesitation before was how notable third party controllers are in terms of ''Smash'', but it seems like it's not that notable/used. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 15:44, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
No, third party controllers are not used too much by people because they are made with a cheaper quality and the official controllers are more notable so we would easily forget some and they at most should have a section on an article but not a page. Its Ya Boy, [[Special:Contributions/MeleeBoi|MeleeBoi]] [[Image:{{NameToIcon|Isabelle}}Head{{#if:Blue|Blue}}{{#if:SSBU|{{#ifeq:SSBU|SSB4|SSB4-U|SSBU}}}}.png{{#if:12px|{{!}}12px}}|link={{#if:|{{{l}}}|Isabelle{{#if:SSBU|&#32;({{#switch:SSBU|SSB4-U|SSB4-3=SSB4|#default=SSBU}})}}}}]]
#No, third party controllers are not used too much by people because they are made with a cheaper quality and the official controllers are more notable so we would easily forget some and they at most should have a section on an article but not a page. Its Ya Boy, [[Special:Contributions/MeleeBoi|MeleeBoi]] [[Image:{{NameToIcon|Isabelle}}Head{{#if:Blue|Blue}}{{#if:SSBU|{{#ifeq:SSBU|SSB4|SSB4-U|SSBU}}}}.png{{#if:12px|{{!}}12px}}|link={{#if:|{{{l}}}|Isabelle{{#if:SSBU|&#32;({{#switch:SSBU|SSB4-U|SSB4-3=SSB4|#default=SSBU}})}}}}]]
#'''Oppose''' Why do we need this? I don't get how third party controllers are notable, unless they're used in popular tournaments, which looking at other comments seems only a minority are used in tournaments. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 18:42, April 9, 2020 (EDT)


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Revision as of 18:42, April 9, 2020

Forums: Index Proposals 3rd party controllers
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Do you think i should add a 3rd party controllers article to SmashWiki? I'm really just thinking whether a third party controller article is notable enough. Please leave your thoughts below. Thanks! LuigiHeadSSBM.pngWeegeegaming|talkLuigiHeadSSBM.png 09:56, April 9, 2020 (EDT)

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  1. Oppose As I stated in the comments of this, only the Smash Box and Hori Pad Mini are truly notable 3rd party controllers (I may be forgetting some, however). Speaking as a competitive smasher myself, 3rd party controllers are generally considered vastly inferior compared to 1st party due to being typically made of cheaper plastic as well as the buttons either tending to be not responsive enough or too responsive. As such, most 3rd party controllers are generally avoided and therefore have very little significance in the competitive scene. Disaster Flare DisasterFlareSignatureImage.png (talk) 12:54, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
  2. Oppose Third party controllers aren't notable in the grand scheme of things. They may be widely used, but everyone also knows they're third party and don't really think anything of it. Aidan, the Rurouni 13:44, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
  3. Oppose I'd say no as per above. My hesitation before was how notable third party controllers are in terms of Smash, but it seems like it's not that notable/used. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 15:44, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
  4. No, third party controllers are not used too much by people because they are made with a cheaper quality and the official controllers are more notable so we would easily forget some and they at most should have a section on an article but not a page. Its Ya Boy, MeleeBoi IsabelleHeadBlueSSBU.png
  5. Oppose Why do we need this? I don't get how third party controllers are notable, unless they're used in popular tournaments, which looking at other comments seems only a minority are used in tournaments. 001Toad.jpg OmegαToαd the Toαd Wαrrior (BUP) 18:42, April 9, 2020 (EDT)

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Aside for use in competitive play, what significance does 3rd party controllers have in Smash? The only one I can think of that has any use is Smash Box, which has a page on here. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 10:28, April 9, 2020 (EDT)

The only really notable 3rd party controllers I can think of are the Smash Box and the Hori Pad Mini. Outside of that, smashers to my knowledge avoid 3rd party controllers due to being overall cheaper and less reliable. Disaster Flare DisasterFlareSignatureImage.png (talk) 12:51, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
I think the notable 3rd party controllers should have a page, but yeah there probably aren't that many other than the ones mentioned above. For me, I actually use a controller brand called "8BitDo". Grand Dad.png Naughty🐽GRAND DAD 自閉肥宅 NiceGrand.jpeg 13:01, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
Personally I think if any 3rd party controller needs to be mentioned somewhere, it's the Hori Pad Mini. It's considered the tournament standard controller for Smash 64 tournaments, so I'm surprised I haven't seen it pop up anywhere on the wiki. Disaster Flare DisasterFlareSignatureImage.png (talk) 15:47, April 9, 2020 (EDT)