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==Overview==
==Overview==
A scissor kick. Its very large auto-cancel window makes it deceptively safe and easy to avoid even its fairly low landing lag. In addition to being a reliable follow-up from Spin Dash, Spin Charge, and Spring Jump-assisted combos, it is a viable KOing option near the upper blast line, especially as a follow-up from Spring Jump. Both hits don't always connect very reliably however. Despite this, the move still possesses good combo potential should the second hit land. It also has the lowest start up (tied with forward aerial) of Sonic's aerials, coming out on frame 5.
A scissor kick. Its very large auto-cancel window makes it deceptively safe and easy to avoid even its fairly low landing lag. In addition to being a reliable follow-up from Spin Dash, Spin Charge, and Spring Jump-assisted combos, it is a viable KOing option near the upper blast line, especially as a follow-up from Spring Jump. Both hits don't always connect very reliably however. Despite this, the move still possesses good combo potential should the second hit land. It also has the lowest start up (tied with forward aerial) of Sonic's aerials, coming out on frame 5.
==Update history==
'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|9.0.0}}'''
*{{buff|[[Up aerial]]'s second hit has an additional hitbox below Sonic, allowing it to connect more reliably from the first hit.}}


==Hitboxes==
==Hitboxes==
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}}
{{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 1|24}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 1|42}}
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
|id=0
|id=0
|damage=3.0%
|damage={{ShortHopDmgSSBU|3.0}}
|angle=110
|angle=110
|bk=0
|bk=0
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|r=3.0
|r=3.0
|bn=top
|bn=top
|xpos=0.0
|ypos=7.0
|ypos=7.0
|zpos=3.0
|zpos=3.0
|ff=1.0
|type=Foot
|type=Foot
|effect=Normal
|sfx=Kick
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=M
|slvl=M
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{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
|id=1
|id=1
|damage=3.0%
|damage={{ShortHopDmgSSBU|3.0}}
|angle=110
|angle=110
|bk=0
|bk=0
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|r=3.0
|r=3.0
|bn=top
|bn=top
|xpos=0.0
|ypos=7.0
|ypos=7.0
|zpos=-3.0
|zpos=-3.0
|ff=1.0
|type=Foot
|type=Foot
|effect=Normal
|sfx=Kick
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=M
|slvl=M
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{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
|id=2
|id=2
|damage=3.0%
|damage={{ShortHopDmgSSBU|3.0}}
|angle=123
|angle=123
|bk=0
|bk=0
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|r=4.0
|r=4.0
|bn=top
|bn=top
|xpos=0.0
|ypos=7.0
|ypos=7.0
|zpos=7.0
|zpos=7.0
|ff=1.0
|type=Foot
|type=Foot
|effect=Normal
|sfx=Kick
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=M
|slvl=M
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{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
|id=3
|id=3
|damage=3.0%
|damage={{ShortHopDmgSSBU|3.0}}
|angle=123
|angle=123
|bk=0
|bk=0
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|r=4.0
|r=4.0
|bn=top
|bn=top
|xpos=0.0
|ypos=7.0
|ypos=7.0
|zpos=-7.0
|zpos=-7.0
|ff=1.0
|type=Foot
|type=Foot
|effect=Normal
|sfx=Kick
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=M
|slvl=M
}}
}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 2|24}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Hit 2|42}}
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
|id=0
|id=0
|damage=8.0%
|damage={{ShortHopDmgSSBU|8.0}}
|angle=91
|angle=91
|bk=66
|bk=66
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|r=7.0
|r=7.0
|bn=top
|bn=top
|xpos=0.0
|ypos=20.0
|ypos=20.0
|zpos=0.0
|ff=1.2
|ff=1.2
|type=Foot
|type=Foot
|effect=Normal
|sfx=Kick
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=L
|slvl=L
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{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
|id=1
|id=1
|damage=8.0%
|damage={{ShortHopDmgSSBU|8.0}}
|angle=91
|angle=91
|bk=66
|bk=66
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|r=6.0
|r=6.0
|bn=top
|bn=top
|xpos=0.0
|ypos=15.0
|ypos=15.0
|zpos=0.0
|ff=1.2
|ff=1.2
|type=Foot
|type=Foot
|effect=Normal
|sfx=Kick
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=L
|slvl=L
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{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
|id=2
|id=2
|damage=8.0%
|damage={{ShortHopDmgSSBU|8.0}}
|angle=91
|angle=91
|bk=66
|bk=66
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|r=4.5
|r=4.5
|bn=top
|bn=top
|xpos=0.0
|ypos=10.0
|ypos=10.0
|zpos=0.0
|ff=1.2
|ff=1.2
|type=Foot
|type=Foot
|effect=Normal
|sfx=Kick
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=L
|slvl=L
}}
{{UltimateHitboxTableRow
|id=3
|damage={{ShortHopDmgSSBU|8.0}}
|angle=91
|bk=66
|ks=68
|fkv=0
|r=4.8
|bn=top
|ypos=10.0 to 8.0
|ff=1.2
|type=Foot
|sfx=Kick
|slvl=L
|g=f
}}
}}
|}
|}
==Timing==
==Timing==
===Attack===
===Attack===
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!Animation length
!Animation length
|54
|54
|-
|}
|}


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===Landing lag===
===Landing lag===
{|class="wikitable"
{|class="wikitable"
!Interruptible
|14
|-
!Animation length
!Animation length
|13
|21
|}
|}


{{FrameStripStart}}
{{FrameStripStart}}
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=13}}
{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=13}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=8}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|autocancel=y|interruptible=y}}
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|autocancel=y|interruptible=y}}


==Trivia==
==Trivia==
The late auto-cancel window is listed to start on frame 11 but as it is listed after the command to remove the second hit's hitboxes in the move's script, it does not auto-cancel until frame 16. This was carried over from the previous two games.
*The immediate auto-canceling of this move is a coding error caused by the wrong type of timing function being used. In the move's scripts, the second hit is deleted on frame 16, then a timer with a count of 11 is placed in the next line for the auto-cancel window. However, this is an ''asynchronous'' timer, which enables the auto-cancel ''on'' frame 11, rather than a ''synchronous'' timer, which would enable it 11 frames ''after'' the hitboxes are deleted (on frame 27). As a result, the auto-cancel is instead enabled on frame 16, as the line is still read after the timer for deleting the hitboxes.
**This was also the case for the move [[Sonic (SSBB)/Up aerial|in ''Brawl'']] [[Sonic (SSB4)/Up aerial|and ''Smash 4'']].
 
{{MvSubNavSonic|g=SSBU}}
{{MvSubNavSonic|g=SSBU}}
[[Category:Sonic (SSBU)]]
[[Category:Sonic (SSBU)]]
[[Category:Up aerials (SSBU)]]
[[Category:Up aerials (SSBU)]]

Latest revision as of 19:27, July 19, 2022

Hitbox visualization showing Sonic's up aerial.

Overview[edit]

A scissor kick. Its very large auto-cancel window makes it deceptively safe and easy to avoid even its fairly low landing lag. In addition to being a reliable follow-up from Spin Dash, Spin Charge, and Spring Jump-assisted combos, it is a viable KOing option near the upper blast line, especially as a follow-up from Spring Jump. Both hits don't always connect very reliably however. Despite this, the move still possesses good combo potential should the second hit land. It also has the lowest start up (tied with forward aerial) of Sonic's aerials, coming out on frame 5.

Update history[edit]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 9.0.0

  • Buff Up aerial's second hit has an additional hitbox below Sonic, allowing it to connect more reliably from the first hit.

Hitboxes[edit]

ID Part Rehit rate Damage SD Angle Angle type BK KS FKV Set weight Radius Bone Offset SDI× T% Clang Rebound Effect Type G A Sound Direct Hit bits Hit part Blockable Reflectable Absorbable Flinchless No GFX Heedless
Hit 1
0 0 0 3.0% 0 AngleIcon110.png Standard 0 50 90 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 3.0 top 0.0 7.0 3.0 1.0× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Foot).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
1 0 0 3.0% 0 AngleIcon110.png Standard 0 50 90 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 3.0 top 0.0 7.0 -3.0 1.0× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Foot).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
2 0 0 3.0% 0 AngleIcon123.png Standard 0 50 120 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 4.0 top 0.0 7.0 7.0 1.0× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Foot).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
3 0 0 3.0% 0 AngleIcon123.png Standard 0 50 120 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 4.0 top 0.0 7.0 -7.0 1.0× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Foot).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png M Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
Hit 2
0 0 0 8.0% 0 AngleIcon91.png Standard 66 68 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 7.0 top 0.0 20.0 0.0 1.2× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Foot).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
1 0 0 8.0% 0 AngleIcon91.png Standard 66 68 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 6.0 top 0.0 15.0 0.0 1.2× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Foot).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
2 0 0 8.0% 0 AngleIcon91.png Standard 66 68 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 4.5 top 0.0 10.0 0.0 1.2× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Foot).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
3 0 0 8.0% 0 AngleIcon91.png Standard 66 68 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 4.8 top 0.0 10.0 to 8.0 0.0 1.2× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png EffectIcon(Normal).png TypeIcon(Foot).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedFalse).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png

Timing[edit]

Attack[edit]

Initial autocancel 1-4
Hit 1 5-7
Hit 2 14-15
Ending autocancel 16-
Interruptible 40
Animation length 54
FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Hitbox).png FrameIcon(Hitbox).png FrameIcon(Hitbox).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Hitbox).png FrameIcon(Hitbox).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png
FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Blank).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png FrameIcon(Autocancel).png

Landing lag[edit]

Interruptible 14
Animation length 21
FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Lag).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png FrameIcon(Interruptible).png
Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
FrameIcon(Lag).png
Lag time
FrameIcon(Hitbox).png
Hitbox
FrameIcon(Autocancel).png
Autocancel
FrameIcon(Interruptible).png
Interruptible

Trivia[edit]

  • The immediate auto-canceling of this move is a coding error caused by the wrong type of timing function being used. In the move's scripts, the second hit is deleted on frame 16, then a timer with a count of 11 is placed in the next line for the auto-cancel window. However, this is an asynchronous timer, which enables the auto-cancel on frame 11, rather than a synchronous timer, which would enable it 11 frames after the hitboxes are deleted (on frame 27). As a result, the auto-cancel is instead enabled on frame 16, as the line is still read after the timer for deleting the hitboxes.