Editing Talk:Master Hand

Was Master Hand simply "defeated" by Tabuu as stated in the article, or was he killed? If the latter, the article should be edited as such. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:72.89.98.167|72.89.98.167]] ([[User talk:72.89.98.167|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/72.89.98.167|contribs]]) 21:48, 29 April 2008</small> 
:To the trophies, it's pretty much the same thing. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 22:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
:: True. turning into a trophy is sorta death to them. Getting defeated also turns them into a trophy....but I think the master hand is excluded from the whole "trophy" thing since he's defeated but never turned into a trophy, that is refering to classic mode. All he does is (somehow) screams and explosions happen around him. Unlike bowser in melee's adventure mode where upon defeat he would fall into the abyss as a trophy on final destination,but on higher difficulties he would come back up as a trophy break out of his trophy state and become giga bowser....defeated falls again and trophy explodes. [[User:Carbonkirby|Carbonkirby]] 22:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think he didn't die no one exactly knows what happend to him maybe that suggests that there will be another instalment-[[Special:Contributions/207.241.247.30|207.241.247.30]] 17:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
: As much money as the series has made, making another seems really obvious unless they get bored with it between the years. [[User:Carbonkirby|Carbonkirby]] ([[User talk:Carbonkirby|talk]]) 17:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

he was killed temporaly. they couldnt kill him or the the smash bros series ends. they killed him tempory hell live again. kinda like a trophie bieng revived see what i mean? [[User:Wallyx|Wallyx]] ([[User talk:Wallyx|talk]]) 23:10, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible Master Hand is the leader of the fighting polygons wire frames or alloys?([[User:Flip62899|Flip62899]] ([[User talk:Flip62899|talk]]) 23:07, May 26, 2010 (UTC))

i dount he died a mean c'mon its Master Hand he killed me more times then any other ssb character (Crazy Hand 2nd and Snake 3rd)if he wanted to he would haved killed Tabuu [[User:Killerface45|Killerface45]] ([[User talk:Killerface45|talk]]) 16:49, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Now think about it, whether master hand truly died or not, he is forever tapped in subspace since he was not seen with the fighters in the end, unless he were to be telaported from subspace to another location, but would be unlikely since he is dead/unconscious. that is unless Crazy Hand were to be involved this whole time and helped his fallen partner [SSB Fan:EAQL] (November 7, 2011)<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:EAQL|EAQL]] ([[User talk:EAQL|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/EAQL|contribs]]) 21:17, 7 November 2011 (EDT)</small>
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== ? ==
There is an hand (without an glove) in the opening sequence in melee.
isn't it master hand? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:209.30.145.34|209.30.145.34]] ([[User talk:209.30.145.34|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/209.30.145.34|contribs]]) 21:33, 31 May 2009</small>
:Probably not. I think Master Hand always wears his glove. Maybe it was Peach or Zelda or whoever was in that stadium reviving those trophies (sorta like the first cutscene of the Subspace Emissary). But I'm just guessing here. <small>[[User:movie138music|movie138music]] - <sup>( [[User_Talk:movie138music|talk]] )</sup></small> 16:17, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


man i dont know.....it ain't Master Hand he is made with a glove its connected to him he ain't human <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Killerface45|Killerface45]] ([[User talk:Killerface45|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Killerface45|contribs]]) 16:52, 9 September 2010</small>
== Glitch in Melee ==

Verifiable, works, tested, etc. but you can play as Master Hand in Melee without a an AR.
[http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237291 whee guides].'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 13:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Master Hand: a briefly playable character? ==

I think Master Hand is the hand cruser in the character select menu.[[User:Jack O&#39;Donnald|Jack O&#39;Donnald]] ([[User talk:Jack O&#39;Donnald|talk]]) 18:42, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
:Well, it could be possible, seeing how they're these claims that he actually created the world of Smash himself, and he is supposedly creator of the characters in SBB. However, he isn't "playable", he's just for selecting a character in that one place. Good question, though. <span style="font-family:Ellis;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="DARKBLUE">''Havoc''</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="DARKBLUE">''Reaper''</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<font color="DARKBLUE">''48!!''</font>]]</span> 21:26, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


good thinking that probaly is Master Hand i never thought of that its right hand so i say yes Master Hand is playable without hacking but only briefly  [[User:Killerface45|Killerface45]] ([[User talk:Killerface45|talk]]) 16:44, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

== One of my favorite characters ==

This guy is my 2nd favorite SSB Character. Hey, I know a glitch on how to unlock him in the original 64 smash brothers. It can only be done with the 64 emulator Project64. Here's the link to download Project64: [http://emulator-zone.com/doc.php/n64/project64.html]. This emulator does not work with these video cards:Matrox G200 or G400, ATI Rage Pro, 3DFX Voodoo Banshee, and 3DFX Voodoo 1 or 2. It also only works with Microsoft Windows. -- [[User:ACSBehemothHellcatCruiser|ACSBehemothHellcatCruiser]] ([[User talk:ACSBehemothHellcatCruiser|talk]]) 23:38, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
:This talk page is for disscussion of the article. This is not a place to disscuss your favorite character. If you believe that your glitch works, post it on the article. <span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span> 01:13, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

== Something weird ==
Hey, I read if the Master Hand gun attack can't be evaded with crouching. But, when I played Classic mode with Kirby, when Master Hand prepared to use the gun attack. I quickly tried to crouch, regardless with it's useless. But, when Master Hand shoot, '''IT MISSED'''! So, may I change the content of this page a little to tell people about this fact?[[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  04:02, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
:You should note all the characters that can duck under the bullet, it is most likely Bowser wouldn't be able to but if kirby can that means some other characters like jigglypuff, snake and squirtle could as well.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 04:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
::Well, I think that means I didn't need to changed it. Well, thanks for telling, anyway. [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  06:46, 14 April 2011 (EDT)

== Split ==

I think it might be useful to split this article into <nowiki>[[Master Hand]], [[Master Hand (SSB)]], [[Master Hand (SSBM)]], and [[Master Hand (SSBB)]]</nowiki>. Up until now, only playable characters have multiple articles dedicated to their various playable appearances, but considering how Master Hand is a boss that appears in all three games (and will undoubtedly appear in any future games in the series), giving him the split treatment will allow better division of information. The resulting <nowiki>[[Master Hand]]</nowiki> article would end up being the weakest link, since unlike playable characters he has no history outside the series, but I think it would still be a good idea. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Researcher 12:17, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
:[[Link (SSBB)]]: 32,857 bytes long. [[Master Hand]]: 18,686 bytes long. Many of the playable character article pages are '''much''' longer than this page. I don't believe it is necessary to split this up unless the 3DS/Wii U game pushes this article to over 32,000 megabytes, which I don't think will happen. Also, these 4 articles would be, on average, 4,000-5,000 bytes big, making them about as long as [[Aether|this page,]] which isn't ''tiny'', but in my opinion is maybe a little too small for a major character's page. In conclusion, while not a terrible idea, I don't think it's necessary to split this article at this point, as the page isn't that big and the resulting pages might be a tad too small. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#0000FF>D<font color=#0037FF>o<font color=#006EFF>c<font color=#00A5FF>t<font color=#00DCFF>o<font color=#00FFFF>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 12:36, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
::The problem is that Master Hand's move really needs to be expanded, and as most character's have their moveset taking up most of the page, if we include MH's full moves, then the article might get much bigger. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:54, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
:::Are the move sets insufficient? I know for Brawl it is, but SSB and Melee look fine. It won't add that much to the article. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#0000FF>D<font color=#0037FF>o<font color=#006EFF>c<font color=#00A5FF>t<font color=#00DCFF>o<font color=#00FFFF>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 12:57, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
::::Never mind then. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:24, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

SPLIT! SPLIT! SPLIT! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Jigglypurin|I am JigglyPurin.]] ([[User talk:Jigglypurin|talk]]) 09:31, 4 July 2014 (EDT)
:Look at the timestamps of the posts in this section; it was resolved three years ago, so bumping it was completely unnecessary. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 09:39, 4 July 2014 (EDT)

== Oh my ==
Kirby have to stone to it in SSB4.
- [[User:Lemmykoopy]]<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Lemmykoopy|Lemmykoopy]] ([[User talk:Lemmykoopy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lemmykoopy|contribs]]) 03:13, 10 April 2012</small>

== Smash 4 ==

You can see him for a split-second in the modes trailer for Smash 4. [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 00:54, 11 June 2014 (EDT)
:Yeah. People claim that Master hand is in the 3ds 2014 trailer. there is a hand in there getting defeated by kirby, but think about it. the hand was on the left side of the screen. master hand is usually on the right. it was probably crazy hand who was in the trailer [[User:Harro|Harro]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 20:10, 21 June 2014 (EDT)

== You sure? ==

Are you SURE the white, dissasembled hand in the SSB intro is Master Hand? It COULD be:
*Crazy Hand, hinting that he would be in the next game.
*An unnamed hand that COULD appear again in Sm4sh.
[[User:Jigglypurin|I am JigglyPurin.]] ([[User talk:Jigglypurin|talk]]) 16:43, 3 July 2014 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure that you can hear MH's death cry from Brawl, and I wouldn't be surprised if the death animation is reused from Brawl as well. The point is, why would it not be MH? [[Image:N64icon.jpg|20px]]'''<span style="font-family:Courier; font-size:12pt">[[User:Nintendrone42|<span style="color:orange">intendrone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Nintendrone42|<span style="color:black">42</span>]]</sup></span>''' 16:47, 3 July 2014 (EDT)
Think about it this way: Why would MH torcher his plushies? [[User:Jigglypurin|I am JigglyPurin.]] ([[User talk:Jigglypurin|talk]]) 22:03, 3 July 2014 (EDT)
:Okay, three things. First, "torture". Second, MH is the boss of 1P/Classic in all three prior games, so it makes little sense to alter that. Third, please review [[SW:TALK]]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:08, 3 July 2014 (EDT)
I meant in the intro! [[User:Jigglypurin|I am JigglyPurin.]] ([[User talk:Jigglypurin|talk]]) 22:18, 3 July 2014 (EDT)
:You're just speculating, and this speculation is pretty off. It won't be a third hand; the series didn't have much of a plot to begin with, so adding a plot twist that deep wouldn't be appropriate for Sakurai, especially when Smash 4 lacks a story mode. Trying to pass him off as Crazy Hand also doesn't work because you're just randomly assigning personalities to the bosses. Using random speculation points of my own, the fighters could be doing no real harm to each other, and Master Hand just wanted them to have a bit of a battle so that he could fight the strongest one or something. Basically, you're speculating, and there's no real evidence for what you're saying. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 22:23, 3 July 2014 (EDT)
Allright. Nintendrone42, Miles, Megatron, you guys win.[[User:Jigglypurin|I am JigglyPurin.]] ([[User talk:Jigglypurin|talk]]) 22:43, 3 July 2014 (EDT)

== Split 2 ==

This page needs a full-blown rewrite anyway. I think it's time to split it into sub-game pages like we do for playable characters, because things are just totally confusing how they currently are. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomprehensible 00:05, 12 September 2014 (EDT)
:'''Strong support''' I'm sure splitting will help the page in the long run. Everything is everywhere... It needs all the help it can get just to be presentable. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:08, 12 September 2014 (EDT)
:'''Support''', the page is super confusing right now and I believe Master Hand deserves the same honors as the other fighters. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 00:42, 12 September 2014 (EDT)
'''Support''' Not only do I think that the page should be split to make this page less of a mess but I also personally think bosses such as Master Hand, Crazy Hand and Giga Bowser should get moveset subpages too. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Mr. Saturn 08:37, 12 September 2014 (EDT)
:'''As strong as a support as possible'''. He is soooo different in {{for3ds}}. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 10:18, 12 September 2014 (EDT)
'''Definitely Support''' He has been around since the beginning of the franchise and his changes should be noted with separate articles {{s|user|Gpev96}} ([[User talk:Gpev96|talk]]) September 2014
:'''Support'''. This is a very good idea, we could do this for Crazy Hand too. [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 18:10, 13 September 2014 (EDT)
'''Support'''. Crazy Hand should get the same treatment. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 19:12, 13 September 2014 (EDT)
'''Support''' Given all the new attacks he and Crazy Hand have in SSB4 (a single video had at least 4 attacks that have never been seen before), a split would make sense. --[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] ([[User talk:Anothrgamer1234|talk]]) 22:42, 17 September 2014 (EDT)

'''Inquiry'''. Assuming this page is split, will [[Crazy Hand]] also receive a split?

--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  12:47, 19 September 2014 (EDT)
:I don't think it would be automatic, but it certainly would be a strong argument for such. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Chronicler 12:48, 19 September 2014 (EDT)

'''Support''' [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 18:00, 21 September 2014 (EDT)

'''Strong Support.''' I also strongly support splitting Crazy Hand. [[User:MMH|MMH]] ([[User talk:MMH|talk]]) 01:26, 26 September 2014 (EDT)

'''Strong Support''' As stated above, Master Hand and Crazy Hand both need their own pages for each installement. This general page is a mess right now [[User:SinancoTheBest|SinancoTheBest]] ([[User talk:SinancoTheBest|talk]]) 10:20, 6 October 2014 (EDT)

== Mascot?  ==

Some people say that Master Hand is the mascot of the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'']] series. Me? I thought of the same thing, but I can't tell if he is. [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 01:52, 1 December 2016 (EST)
:What are you suggesting, if anything? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 02:15, 1 December 2016 (EST)
::I'm suggesting that he could be the mascot of ''Smash'' because he's original to the series, and serves as the games' recurring boss. [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 09:54, 1 December 2016 (EST)
:::That's the equivalence of saying Polygon Man is the mascot of PlayStation All Stars, or M. Bison is the mascot of Street Fighter. [[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Jolly Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig2.png|20px]] 10:08, 1 December 2016 (EST)
::::Well, I'm still not sure if he's the mascot or not. [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 22:16, 5 December 2016 (EST)
:::::Smash doesn't really have a mascot. Let's just leave it at that. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:26, 5 December 2016 (EST)

== Master Hand in ''Ultimate'' (Please Wait) ==

Will Master Hand be confirmed as a final boss in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]'' Classic Mode? Wait and see is the answer. [[User talk:Sportsfanrob|Sportsfanrob]] ([[User talk:Sportsfanrob|talk]]) 14:07, 17 October 2018 (EDT)

== Foreign voice actors? ==

I've noticed on the List of voice actors page that Jean-Marc Delhausse is listed for voicing Master Hand in French in the original Super Smash Bros but not Frank Wölfen, Both of whom had voiced the Announcer in French and German respectively in that game, similar to Jeff Manning but regardless where is the citation for this information?. I'm also wondering if non-English announcers post brawl voice Master Hand/Crazy Hand as well.
--[[User:Mantis|Mantis]] ([[User talk:Mantis|talk]]) 05:15, June 11, 2022 (EDT)
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