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=== [[User:Smorekingxg456|Smorekingxg456]] ([[User talk:Smorekingxg456|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Smorekingxg456|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Smorekingxg456|RFA page]]) === | === [[User:Smorekingxg456|Smorekingxg456]] ([[User talk:Smorekingxg456|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Smorekingxg456|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Smorekingxg456|RFA page]]) === | ||
''Please direct all discussions to the [[SmashWiki talk:Requests for adminship/Smorekingxg456|talk page]]. | ''Please direct all discussions to the [[SmashWiki talk:Requests for adminship/Smorekingxg456|talk page]]. | ||
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*I have no life, so I would be able to just sit at my computer all day, waiting for an opportunity to use the admin tools. | *I have no life, so I would be able to just sit at my computer all day, waiting for an opportunity to use the admin tools. | ||
*I have adminship on two wikis, so I'm not a complete n00b to the tools. | *I have adminship on two wikis, so I'm not a complete n00b to the tools. | ||
*[[: | *[[:Image:Srsbsns.gif|Rawr]] | ||
So yes, that is my request "form" and I hope you vote honestly and opening. | So yes, that is my request "form" and I hope you vote honestly and opening. | ||
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*'''Oppose'''. One, you failed the test pretty badly. Two, you had a grand total of 16 Smasher Namespace edits before the test, so your argument that you need the tools to not have to tag the pages first fails. Third, and also including number one, you really haven't demonstrated that you are competent enough with the big names in the Smash Community and/or know how to find information about them that I would feel comfortable letting you just delete pages that you think aren't notable. Now, along policy lines, I also have strong reservations about you as a sysop. Generally, your "warnings" issued to other users seem to be nit-picky, and often just you trying to demonstrate that you know the letter of the policy. I haven't seen an indication that you fully grasp why we have most policies. This is detrimental to you chances as a sysop as I don't feel that you could distinguish between good faith mistakes and wrong doing. Additionally, I don't feel that this would help in you working to construct new policies. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 20:11, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | *'''Oppose'''. One, you failed the test pretty badly. Two, you had a grand total of 16 Smasher Namespace edits before the test, so your argument that you need the tools to not have to tag the pages first fails. Third, and also including number one, you really haven't demonstrated that you are competent enough with the big names in the Smash Community and/or know how to find information about them that I would feel comfortable letting you just delete pages that you think aren't notable. Now, along policy lines, I also have strong reservations about you as a sysop. Generally, your "warnings" issued to other users seem to be nit-picky, and often just you trying to demonstrate that you know the letter of the policy. I haven't seen an indication that you fully grasp why we have most policies. This is detrimental to you chances as a sysop as I don't feel that you could distinguish between good faith mistakes and wrong doing. Additionally, I don't feel that this would help in you working to construct new policies. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 20:11, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
*'''Oppose''' per the general gist of CHawk, as well as his specific line that "this is detrimental to you [sic] chances as a sysop as I don't feel that you could distinguish between good faith mistakes and wrong doing. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 05:46, 2 | *'''Oppose''' per the general gist of CHawk, as well as his specific line that "this is detrimental to you [sic] chances as a sysop as I don't feel that you could distinguish between good faith mistakes and wrong doing. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 05:46, 2 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
==== Neutral ==== | ==== Neutral ==== | ||
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::All PAs aside... but "research"? Sorry, I'm confused... <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 23:18, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | ::All PAs aside... but "research"? Sorry, I'm confused... <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 23:18, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
* | *By research he means looking over Smore's edit history. As for me, seeings as we've just promoted three admins in the last few months, I don't really think we need that many more. I'm sure Smore would do a good job, but '''Neutral'''. '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]''' | ||
:Is there really such a thing as too many admins? There are times when, despite the large number of admins, none of them are on.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 23:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | :Is there really such a thing as too many admins? There are times when, despite the large number of admins, none of them are on.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 23:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Yes, there is such a thing as too many admins. If you have too many, it begins to look like an elitist cabal, with all the popular, contributing users as admins, and it creates an inferiority complex for the normal users. But, I don't think it's really applicable for this- our admin:user ratio is fine. --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 23:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | ::Yes, there is such a thing as too many admins. If you have too many, it begins to look like an elitist cabal, with all the popular, contributing users as admins, and it creates an inferiority complex for the normal users. But, I don't think it's really applicable for this- our admin:user ratio is fine. --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 23:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
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::...Can't you only get on on weekends? --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 23:50, 20 February 2009 (UTC) | ::...Can't you only get on on weekends? --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 23:50, 20 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::I'm supposed to, yes ;) And you'd be surprised how much I could do in one weekend.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 23:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC) | :::I'm supposed to, yes ;) And you'd be surprised how much I could do in one weekend.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 23:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::As this is an RfA, the right is reserved to provide a hypothetical situation or a test and see how the candidate responds. So, I have assembled several present articles, both crew and smasher articles. Your job is to investigate and respond, without consultation, about whether they should be deleted or retained. The articles are: [[Smasher:AK]], Smasher:Princess Peachie, | ::::As this is an RfA, the right is reserved to provide a hypothetical situation or a test and see how the candidate responds. So, I have assembled several present articles, both crew and smasher articles. Your job is to investigate and respond, without consultation, about whether they should be deleted or retained. The articles are: [[Smasher:AK]], [[Smasher:Princess Peachie]], [[Smasher:Kpld]], [[Smasher:Medicine Woman]], [[Smasher:Dr. Quinn]], [[The Only Acronym]], [[GAMER Guild]], and [[Omneox Of Smash]]. Keep in mind there are right/wrong answers, and I know what they are, but some of them have some wiggle room. I've done my homework on this one. I'll strongly consider changing my vote to a support depending on how you do on this one. Good luck. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 06:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::::I went through them. You can see which ones I tagged.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | :::::I went through them. You can see which ones I tagged.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
*'''Neutral, slight leaning toward support.''' If I were a bureaucrat and I had to appoint one person that I thought had a chance of passing a normal RfA it would be Smoreking. Given the available candidates, Smoreking is the best option in my opinion. He is the most likely to succeed, most like to make good decisions.... but all that having been said, Smoreking is not the ideal candidate. There are certain things about Smoreking that cast shadows of doubt, though as mentioned these are smaller than some other users'. What Alice said above is also pretty true. If we were in times of trouble, with round-the-clock vandals and busy sysops, I'd support Smoreking in a heartbeat. But since we do not need more admins...and there is always the worry of perceived elitism... I remain neutral. <br>tl;dr: Smoreking is the best available candidate, but whether we need him as a sysop right now is questionable. --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 03:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | *'''Neutral, slight leaning toward support.''' If I were a bureaucrat and I had to appoint one person that I thought had a chance of passing a normal RfA it would be Smoreking. Given the available candidates, Smoreking is the best option in my opinion. He is the most likely to succeed, most like to make good decisions.... but all that having been said, Smoreking is not the ideal candidate. There are certain things about Smoreking that cast shadows of doubt, though as mentioned these are smaller than some other users'. What Alice said above is also pretty true. If we were in times of trouble, with round-the-clock vandals and busy sysops, I'd support Smoreking in a heartbeat. But since we do not need more admins...and there is always the worry of perceived elitism... I remain neutral. <br>tl;dr: Smoreking is the best available candidate, but whether we need him as a sysop right now is questionable. --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 03:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
*'''Neutral.''' I'm fairly confident that Smoreking would be an able SysOp and he's clearly active; however, with that said, I do have two minor-ish qualms. First off, I'm not wholly confident in his ability to moderate user conflicts and other problems of that nature, though I've not seen him "in action" often enough to make that judgment with any real certainty (I'll reconsider this if someone provides examples to the contrary, i.e. which demonstrate sound discretionary judgment/capable handling of user conflicts). Second off, though I don't necessarily see this RfA as an attempt to garner power, I'm not entirely convinced that Smoreking needs SysOp tools (at least in so far as anyone can really ''need'' del/prot/block). (Additionally, I tend to think we have a sufficient number of SysOps as is, though that doesn't speak in any way, shape, or form to Smoreking as a candidate.) I've also not seen any abundance of evidence that Smoreking has an above average grasp of policy, though I tend to attribute that primarily to admittedly limited knowledge of Smoreking as an editor. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=black><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 04:19, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | *'''Neutral.''' I'm fairly confident that Smoreking would be an able SysOp and he's clearly active; however, with that said, I do have two minor-ish qualms. First off, I'm not wholly confident in his ability to moderate user conflicts and other problems of that nature, though I've not seen him "in action" often enough to make that judgment with any real certainty (I'll reconsider this if someone provides examples to the contrary, i.e. which demonstrate sound discretionary judgment/capable handling of user conflicts). Second off, though I don't necessarily see this RfA as an attempt to garner power, I'm not entirely convinced that Smoreking needs SysOp tools (at least in so far as anyone can really ''need'' del/prot/block). (Additionally, I tend to think we have a sufficient number of SysOps as is, though that doesn't speak in any way, shape, or form to Smoreking as a candidate.) I've also not seen any abundance of evidence that Smoreking has an above average grasp of policy, though I tend to attribute that primarily to admittedly limited knowledge of Smoreking as an editor. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=black><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 04:19, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
I'm moving for this nomination to be closed under ''successful''. '''[[User:Kperfekt722|<span style="color:purple;">Kperfekt</span>]]''' [[User talk:Kperfekt722|<span style="color:red;"><sup>BURN!!!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kperfekt722|<sup>Revert That!</sup>]] 04:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC) | I'm moving for this nomination to be closed under ''successful''. '''[[User:Kperfekt722|<span style="color:purple;">Kperfekt</span>]]''' [[User talk:Kperfekt722|<span style="color:red;"><sup>BURN!!!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kperfekt722|<sup>Revert That!</sup>]] 04:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:That's really a stupid thing to say. Five supports, three opposes, and a large amount on undecided. This needs more deliberation. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 20:28, 8 March 2009 (UTC) | :That's really a stupid thing to say. Five supports, three opposes, and a large amount on undecided. This needs more deliberation. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 20:28, 8 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:::I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that you were calling what he said stupid, not him. I again apologize. lol <span style="border:2px outset #33ff66;background-color:green;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 00:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC) | :::I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that you were calling what he said stupid, not him. I again apologize. lol <span style="border:2px outset #33ff66;background-color:green;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 00:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::Why is this taking do long? Isn't he trusted enough yet? It's not like he's a vandal and capable of destroying the wiki and unleash viruses all over the wiki, thus spreading all over the internet, and all the world's technology is re-programmed to do it's worst, and hack into the White house and threat to kill the president, and in return all ex-admins of all wikis must be killed (And B-crats) and Wikia will be handed over to smore, and using his B-crat and Admin powers to create the ultimate power source to hold all the world's leaders into a slowly building up room full of water, and in return (Again...) all continents must be blown up (And military forces) thus making the world defenceless and being the new leaded of the internet... Convinced now? '''--[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:darkblue">~The Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:purple"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup>[[Special:Contributions/The blue blur|<span style="color:">New main in training!</span>]]</sup> 17:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC) | ::::Why is this taking do long? Isn't he trusted enough yet? It's not like he's a vandal and capable of destroying the wiki and unleash viruses all over the wiki, thus spreading all over the internet, and all the world's technology is re-programmed to do it's worst, and hack into the White house and threat to kill the president, and in return all ex-admins of all wikis must be killed (And B-crats) and Wikia will be handed over to smore, and using his B-crat and Admin powers to create the ultimate power source to hold all the world's leaders into a slowly building up room full of water, and in return (Again...) all continents must be blown up (And military forces) thus making the world defenceless and being the new leaded of the internet... Convinced now? '''--[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:darkblue">~The Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:purple"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup>[[Special:Contributions/The blue blur|<span style="color:">New main in training!</span>]]</sup> 17:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
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