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{{rfa close|successful|Clear community support, plans for using the tools, and experience moderating other communities. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Quiet 20:02, August 16, 2023 (EDT)}}
=== [[User:Plague von Karma|Plague von Karma]] ([[User talk:Plague von Karma|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Plague von Karma|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Plague von Karma|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Plague von Karma|RFA page]]) ===
=== [[User:Plague von Karma|Plague von Karma]] ([[User talk:Plague von Karma|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Plague von Karma|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Plague von Karma|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Plague von Karma|RFA page]]) ===
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>
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#The edits I see from you seem to be enforcing policies and/or are good faith. You also seem to be discussing maintenance very well. I'd trust you as an admin. [[User:Jordan P.|Jordan P.,]] [[User talk:Jordan P.|the Sora main]] [[File:SoraHeadSSBUWebsite.png|15px]] 15:33, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
#The edits I see from you seem to be enforcing policies and/or are good faith. You also seem to be discussing maintenance very well. I'd trust you as an admin. [[User:Jordan P.|Jordan P.,]] [[User talk:Jordan P.|the Sora main]] [[File:SoraHeadSSBUWebsite.png|15px]] 15:33, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
#Going off of all that I knew about you on the wiki already, the dedication you have to this wiki and this community speaks for itself, and the other examples you provide both in the RfA and in response to Cookies and Creme's comment shows that you're entirely capable of handling a massive online community. Though I have to agree with OT that communicating with the userbase to make sure everything is going smoothly is an important task of being an admin, I still think you've more than proven yourself, and you have my full support. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 17:03, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
#Going off of all that I knew about you on the wiki already, the dedication you have to this wiki and this community speaks for itself, and the other examples you provide both in the RfA and in response to Cookies and Creme's comment shows that you're entirely capable of handling a massive online community. Though I have to agree with OT that communicating with the userbase to make sure everything is going smoothly is an important task of being an admin, I still think you've more than proven yourself, and you have my full support. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 17:03, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
#'''Support''' - Overdue to be honest. I always saw you as one of the most knowledgeable and reliable editors here, and I'm sure having administrative powers will only supplement that. Sincerely, '''[[User:Ender R. Musk|<span style="color:#cc00fa">Ender</span>]] [[User talk:Ender R. Musk|<span style="color:maroon">Ravishing</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ender R. Musk|<span style="color: #012061">Musk</span>]]'''. 17:51, August 3, 2023 (EDT)
#'''Support''' I don't have much else to add that hasn't been expressed above other than to summarize that you are a highly dedicated editor with an outstanding track record for community handling and are well articulate in serious conversations. I would also like to add that I also don't hold our recent argument on Discord against you personally since you did not have the full story (due to no fault of anyone's own but staff oversight), but I have a minor complaint in that I agree with C&C that you were too quick to form an opinion despite not having all the information first (information that should not have been withheld to begin with [[SmashWiki:UCC#Response|as per policy]], but again, not your fault) rather than waiting until both sides of the story could be heard. However, it seems like many lessons have been learned ever since that incident and it also does not invalidate your vast credentials. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 19:09, August 3, 2023 (EDT)
#'''Support''' Not much else to say that hasn't already been said. Definitely one of the best (if not the best) candidates for admin. [[User:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:#850FFA; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Señor'''</span> <span style="color:#850FFA;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px green">'''Mexicano'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:lightpurple;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px lightgreen">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:50, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
#'''Support''' Good editor with very little drama and experience moderating other communities. That alone is enough for a support. Can't add much else, everybody else put it better than me, plus we do need more admins to reduce the workload of the current ones. [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon|talk]]) 04:24, August 5, 2023 (EDT)
# Even though I haven't seen much of your moderation skills in action, after reading the examples and also responses from other users, I think you'll be fine. [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="#0AF">Ultimate Toad,</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="blue">the Toad Warrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(I'm the best!)</font>]]''' 01:24, August 8, 2023 (EDT)
#'''Support''' - Haven't interacted with you much throughout my time being a contributor on the wiki or within the discord, but based on what I've seen others say in reply to your request, I believe that you would be a very welcome addition to the administrators we have as it would lighten the load for some of them. [[User:LaughinElf|LaughinElf]] ([[User talk:LaughinElf|talk]]) 20:08, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
#'''Support''' - yes --—-[[User:Lattie|Lattie]] ([[User talk:Lattie|talk]]) 03:22, August 13, 2023 (EDT)
#'''Support'''. I'm not active these days to see what you do on Smashwiki, let alone I said that I won't be commenting on this on discord, but your experience, community charisma, and this RfA's outline has convinced me enough that you are good for the job. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 16:59, August 13, 2023 (EDT)


==== Oppose ====
==== Oppose ====
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==== Neutral ====
==== Neutral ====
#'''Dunno''': As someone who doesn't know you too well (or isn't as active on the wiki as I used to be), I don't think I'm versed enough to make a final decision. However, there are some things I want to mention: I do believe, given the evidence you've provided, you have enough knowledge to do the job well. Being able to manage multiple wikis shows you're able to handle this role well. Although I'm a bit concerned you'll be able to balance this with the sites you're currently active in, I believe in your ability to so. However, I also have a few concerns I want to bring up. Primarily, although I haven’t spoke with you much, one thing I've noticed is that you tend to get a bit emotional over matters. (Not to call you out, but I noticed it while we were discussing Omega Tyrant in the SmashWiki server). I believe emotional stability is sometimes already an issue with the admin team as is (some admins are too passive while others can be too strict), so I worry about how this might worsen the issue, especially combined with your self-proclaimed workaholism. Additionally, less to do with you specifically, but one thing that has me worried is that it may be too soon for a new admin. While I can understand the rush to fill the gap that Serpent King left behind, I don't want that to influence others opinions. I think it may be better to give it some time for things to settle down (say a few more months?) before we discuss a new admin further. But at the end of the day, I don't believe I'm qualified enough to make a final decision on this. If everyone believes in her ability to become an admin, I'll respect it. I just hope everyone properly thinks the decision over before jumping to any final decisions, since an admin role is one that comes with a lot of responsibility, both knowledge-wise and emotionally. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 19:53, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
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::As for my SmashWiki discussions on the Discord — I think my wiki ones were articulated decently enough(?) — the most recent example I'd say is [https://discord.com/channels/186707873789640705/186708155873492993/1127318234857746582 my conversation with Omega Tyrant following that warning he received]. I certainly wasn't right in my conclusions — I simply didn't have full information and acted on what I knew and believed — but I believe the way I handled it conversationally was effective. I think I articulated my positions effectively, gave good levels of insight, and defended them appropriately when pressed by Voqéo. My positions on reporter protection, particularly, I think I delivered well. It's a bit difficult for me to find anything else with a simple Discord search, but here are a few other things; [https://discord.com/channels/186707873789640705/186708155873492993/898712065227759636 distinguishing between beliefs and behaviour with yourself], [https://discord.com/channels/186707873789640705/422922259435356170/895076747064786995 play feedback with Black Vulpine which could demonstrate game knowledge], and [https://discord.com/channels/186707873789640705/186708155873492993/870042852351156254 some discussions about the Passive armour page prior to me going into it, wherein I believe I articulate myself quite well]. These go back into 2021; I don't think going back further is necessary but I could at a push. I was largely inactive in 2022, mainly because of an incident with OmegaToad, and while I'd rather not go into it, it is a perfectly valid argument if you want to dispute my staying potential. --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 21:57, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
::As for my SmashWiki discussions on the Discord — I think my wiki ones were articulated decently enough(?) — the most recent example I'd say is [https://discord.com/channels/186707873789640705/186708155873492993/1127318234857746582 my conversation with Omega Tyrant following that warning he received]. I certainly wasn't right in my conclusions — I simply didn't have full information and acted on what I knew and believed — but I believe the way I handled it conversationally was effective. I think I articulated my positions effectively, gave good levels of insight, and defended them appropriately when pressed by Voqéo. My positions on reporter protection, particularly, I think I delivered well. It's a bit difficult for me to find anything else with a simple Discord search, but here are a few other things; [https://discord.com/channels/186707873789640705/186708155873492993/898712065227759636 distinguishing between beliefs and behaviour with yourself], [https://discord.com/channels/186707873789640705/422922259435356170/895076747064786995 play feedback with Black Vulpine which could demonstrate game knowledge], and [https://discord.com/channels/186707873789640705/186708155873492993/870042852351156254 some discussions about the Passive armour page prior to me going into it, wherein I believe I articulate myself quite well]. These go back into 2021; I don't think going back further is necessary but I could at a push. I was largely inactive in 2022, mainly because of an incident with OmegaToad, and while I'd rather not go into it, it is a perfectly valid argument if you want to dispute my staying potential. --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 21:57, July 29, 2023 (EDT)


@Crazy456Rhino: One particular part of your comment I want to call out:
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"''Additionally, less to do with you specifically, but one thing that has me worried is that it may be too soon for a new admin. While I can understand the rush to fill the gap that Serpent King left behind, I don't want that to influence others opinions. I think it may be better to give it some time for things to settle down (say a few more months?) before we discuss a new admin further.''"
 
This is just completely irrelevant. For one, this isn't "filling" Serpent King's spot, there never was and never will be a set limit of admin "seats". For two, we been needing more admins long before Serpent King stepped down, as evidenced by me doing like over 75% of the administrative work for the past couple years, and his increasing out-of-touchness and inactivity just expounded that point farther before he stepped away on his own. For three, waiting "a few months" is a long ass time to wait for people to "get over" SK going away, the wiki work itself is not stopping in that time, and the stresses of having to handle wiki matters with so few other admins around aren't going to relax while people wait for things to "settle down". Plague's opening line about the clear stress among the admin workload is very much true, and people holding off on any RfAs will only worsen the stress, there was a reason I outright stated during that argument that other people should be making RfAs. I'll also just come out and note one of the complaints about me was someone claiming I've been trying to "control the wiki", which presumably came from me being at the forefront of doing all the aforementioned administrative work, stuff that wouldn't have been getting done if I didn't step up. So if people are going to complain about me doing "too much" with administrating the wiki, but then also want to drag their feet with promoting anyone else to admin, what exactly is supposed to be done? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:15, August 4, 2023 (EDT)


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