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Banjo & Kazooie have a somewhat decent albeit imperfect [[grab]] game. Banjo's grab range is fairly decent, though oddly enough, his pivot grab has less range against airborne opponents. [[Forward throw]] has Kazooie kick the opponent forward with her feet; it can create space between Banjo & Kazooie and their opponent on-stage, though its utility is held back by its awkward launch angle and relatively low base knockback, especially compared to, for example, {{SSBU|Jigglypuff}}'s forward throw. [[Up throw]] sees Banjo toss the opponent upward, followed by Kazooie pecking at them; it can put opponents above Banjo & Kazooie and setup juggles, but has too much base knockback and too much ending lag to actually have any true follow-ups against most characters. [[Down throw]] looks and functions very similarly to {{SSBU|King K. Rool}}'s down throw, being a move where Banjo lifts the opponent upward with both of his hands and slams them downward to [[bury]] them; at high enough percentages, down throw has a guaranteed 50/50 setup into either up tilt or up smash in most matchups, with the former catching opponents who mash out and the latter catching ones who don't. Finally, [[back throw]] is the duo's KO throw, and closely resembles {{SSBU|Mario}}'s back throw; it has a collateral hitbox much like Mario's that gives it utility against bystanders (as well as the {{SSBU|Ice Climbers}} and {{SSBU|Rosalina & Luma}}), and it is incredibly powerful, being even stronger than Mario's back throw. | Banjo & Kazooie have a somewhat decent albeit imperfect [[grab]] game. Banjo's grab range is fairly decent, though oddly enough, his pivot grab has less range against airborne opponents. [[Forward throw]] has Kazooie kick the opponent forward with her feet; it can create space between Banjo & Kazooie and their opponent on-stage, though its utility is held back by its awkward launch angle and relatively low base knockback, especially compared to, for example, {{SSBU|Jigglypuff}}'s forward throw. [[Up throw]] sees Banjo toss the opponent upward, followed by Kazooie pecking at them; it can put opponents above Banjo & Kazooie and setup juggles, but has too much base knockback and too much ending lag to actually have any true follow-ups against most characters. [[Down throw]] looks and functions very similarly to {{SSBU|King K. Rool}}'s down throw, being a move where Banjo lifts the opponent upward with both of his hands and slams them downward to [[bury]] them; at high enough percentages, down throw has a guaranteed 50/50 setup into either up tilt or up smash in most matchups, with the former catching opponents who mash out and the latter catching ones who don't. Finally, [[back throw]] is the duo's KO throw, and closely resembles {{SSBU|Mario}}'s back throw; it has a collateral hitbox much like Mario's that gives it utility against bystanders (as well as the {{SSBU|Ice Climbers}} and {{SSBU|Rosalina & Luma}}), and it is incredibly powerful, being even stronger than Mario's back throw. | ||
However, the duo has numerous other considerable weaknesses to balance their strengths. Outside of their dash attack, up tilt, smash attacks, forward aerial, back aerial, down throw, back throw, close-range Breegull Blaster and Wonderwing, Banjo & Kazooie's potential to KO can be somewhat limited despite their status as a heavyweight fighter. Many of their moves are unremarkable among their weight class in terms of power, and unlike other fighters with poor KOing abilities, Banjo & Kazooie have a fairly limited combo game. The duo's range is also unremarkable, despite Kazooie's lack of a hurtbox, which means that they will sometimes have issues trading blows with conventional swordfighters | However, the duo has numerous other considerable weaknesses to balance their strengths. Outside of their dash attack, up tilt, smash attacks, forward aerial, back aerial, down throw, back throw, close-range Breegull Blaster and Wonderwing, Banjo & Kazooie's potential to KO can be somewhat limited despite their status as a heavyweight fighter. Many of their moves are unremarkable among their weight class in terms of power, and unlike other fighters with poor KOing abilities, Banjo & Kazooie have a fairly limited combo game. The duo's range is also unremarkable, despite Kazooie's lack of a hurtbox, which means that they will sometimes have issues trading blows with conventional swordfighters. Similarly to {{SSBU|Wario}}, Banjo himself has a wide hurtbox, and the duo is susceptible to combos and juggles due to their heavy weight, slow air speed, low jump height, and lack of fast escape options. Their overall mobility is unorthodox; their excellent run speed is offset by their poor initial dash speed, which is tied for the 5th slowest, their high vertical recovery options are hampered by their low jumps, poor air speed, and fast falling speed, and their grounded mobility is hindered by their [[traction]] being tied with the {{SSBU|Mii Gunner}}'s for the lowest in the game. | ||
Additionally, the duo's special moves, while strong, have significant flaws. Breegull Blaster's long-range egg hitboxes are weak and less useful for zoning than Egg Firing, while Breegull Blaster can be unsafe on shield up close unless the aforementioned difficult-to-perform advanced KFC techniques are performed; also, Breegull Blaster's eggs become weaker with repeated use, discouraging excessive use of the move, though the damage output goes back to normal after a cooldown period if Breegull Blaster is not used. If the duo runs out of golden feathers, they lose access to Wonderwing, eliminating a potent move with plenty of offensive and defensive utility; Wonderwing is also vulnerable to grabs despite its invincibility—although due to its speed, an opponent taking advantage of this is relatively rare—and it is also notoriously unsafe on shield and on whiff, further punishing heavily its misuse. Rear Egg, while being a relatively potent combo tool, can be turned against the duo as opponents can grab it and use it due to its status as an [[item]], as well as the fact that that a previously-laid grenade egg must explode or reach the blast zone before a new one can be laid, meaning the player must wait a while to try again if an egg misses an opponent; additionally, a grenade egg can be [[pocket]]ed by {{SSBU|Villager}} or {{SSBU|Isabelle}}, completely ridding Banjo & Kazooie of one of their most useful moves against those two aforementioned characters. Shock Spring Jump requires slight charge time to make their recovery reliable, and it also does not have a hitbox outside of the Shock Spring Pad itself, making it vulnerable to aggressive edgeguarding. | Additionally, the duo's special moves, while strong, have significant flaws. Breegull Blaster's long-range egg hitboxes are weak and less useful for zoning than Egg Firing, while Breegull Blaster can be unsafe on shield up close unless the aforementioned difficult-to-perform advanced KFC techniques are performed; also, Breegull Blaster's eggs become weaker with repeated use, discouraging excessive use of the move, though the damage output goes back to normal after a cooldown period if Breegull Blaster is not used. If the duo runs out of golden feathers, they lose access to Wonderwing, eliminating a potent move with plenty of offensive and defensive utility; Wonderwing is also vulnerable to grabs despite its invincibility—although due to its speed, an opponent taking advantage of this is relatively rare—and it is also notoriously unsafe on shield and on whiff, further punishing heavily its misuse. Rear Egg, while being a relatively potent combo tool, can be turned against the duo as opponents can grab it and use it due to its status as an [[item]], as well as the fact that that a previously-laid grenade egg must explode or reach the blast zone before a new one can be laid, meaning the player must wait a while to try again if an egg misses an opponent; additionally, a grenade egg can be [[pocket]]ed by {{SSBU|Villager}} or {{SSBU|Isabelle}}, completely ridding Banjo & Kazooie of one of their most useful moves against those two aforementioned characters. Shock Spring Jump requires slight charge time to make their recovery reliable, and it also does not have a hitbox outside of the Shock Spring Pad itself, making it vulnerable to aggressive edgeguarding. | ||
